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Re: Borrego named head coach 

Post#81 » by LofJ » Tue May 8, 2018 10:46 pm

fatlever wrote:what was the spurs coaching hierarchy last year?


I think it was Messina > Borrego > Udoka > Hammon

And then they have their skill development guys like Chip Engelland.
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Re: Borrego named head coach 

Post#82 » by -Ian- » Wed May 9, 2018 2:23 am

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Braggins wrote: I'm guessing we just hired the Steve Clifford of the Popovich coaching tree.

From his wiki page. "Borrego began in 2003 his career in professional basketball with the San Antonio Spurs, starting as an assistant video coordinator in the summer of 2003"

Totally giving me Clifford vibes. I admit that I know nothing about this guy and have no idea if he is good or bad, but it feels like we just hired another long time assistant who was never going to get a head coaching gig unless we hired them...


Didn't Spo get his foot in the door in the NBA in some similar capacity?


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Yes. Budenholzer also started as a video coordinator for the Spurs back in the 90's.
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Re: Borrego named head coach 

Post#83 » by Diop » Wed May 9, 2018 2:37 am

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Liver_Pooty wrote:The lack of optimism on this board makes me think everyone here is an alcoholic.

After this past season i wouldnt blame you


*raises hand.

I always used to be optimistic, heck I was excited to see what Dunlap would do.

But this team has broken me. Luckily I have scotch.
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Re: Borrego named head coach 

Post#84 » by Eoghan » Wed May 9, 2018 2:47 am

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yosemiteben wrote:For some reason seeing Kyler say that actually makes me feel worse. I have a borderline irrational antagonism towards Kyler.

It gave me mixed feelings because I share your dislike for Kyler, but the descriptors he used are exactly what I'd want to hear describing a head coach. Now I'm just more confused.

I'm honestly confused by the descriptors. Aggressive and player-centric? How does that work?

Hey! Batum! You gotta bring some more energy on D! If you're feeling okay with that, that is. *wink* Now get out there, Tiger! Or not, whatever is comfortable for you.

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Re: Borrego named head coach 

Post#85 » by catch20two » Wed May 9, 2018 2:51 am

I think I like the hire. I’ll reserve any judgment of value until I actually see how the games play out and stuff but that would’ve been my same train of thought had Messina, Udoka, Larranaga, or Stackhouse were hired.

Let’s go Borrego!
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Re: Borrego named head coach 

Post#86 » by Braggins » Wed May 9, 2018 5:56 am

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yosemiteben wrote:For some reason seeing Kyler say that actually makes me feel worse. I have a borderline irrational antagonism towards Kyler.

It gave me mixed feelings because I share your dislike for Kyler, but the descriptors he used are exactly what I'd want to hear describing a head coach. Now I'm just more confused.

I'm honestly confused by the descriptors. Aggressive and player-centric? How does that work?

Hey! Batum! You gotta bring some more energy on D! If you're feeling okay with that, that is. *wink* Now get out there, Tiger! Or not, whatever is comfortable for you.

And for the record I'm on my 3rd IPA right now and it's a light night for sure. :noway:

I took it to mean aggressive strategically, but idk.
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Re: Borrego named head coach 

Post#87 » by Braggins » Wed May 9, 2018 5:57 am

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Braggins wrote:From his wiki page. "Borrego began in 2003 his career in professional basketball with the San Antonio Spurs, starting as an assistant video coordinator in the summer of 2003"

Totally giving me Clifford vibes. I admit that I know nothing about this guy and have no idea if he is good or bad, but it feels like we just hired another long time assistant who was never going to get a head coaching gig unless we hired them...


Didn't Spo get his foot in the door in the NBA in some similar capacity?


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Yes. Budenholzer also started as a video coordinator for the Spurs back in the 90's.

I was probably jumping the gun with the Clifford vibe comments.

I also didn't realize how young Borrego is.
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Re: Borrego named head coach 

Post#88 » by UNCNYC » Wed May 9, 2018 8:24 am

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:A branch of the Popovich tree. I know there were way flashier names out there, but I'll reserve judgment till I see what he's got in store for us.


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Re: Borrego named head coach 

Post#89 » by BuzzCity » Wed May 9, 2018 12:00 pm

I like this for the simple fact that it works for a rebuild. No big name coach wants to come here for that. And we need a rebuild in the worst possible way.
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Post#90 » by countryboi » Wed May 9, 2018 1:40 pm

He seems like a very meh hire makes me think we are in for a start over.
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Re: Borrego named head coach 

Post#91 » by BatumtheGlue » Wed May 9, 2018 2:21 pm

I know nothing about this guy, only can hope that he will be the next Steve Kerr. Oopss he is a defensive coach, nevermind.
Agree with BuzzCity. I hope he is a part of plan to rebuild. Nothing to lose...
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Re: Borrego named head coach 

Post#92 » by fatlever » Wed May 9, 2018 4:49 pm

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/scott-fowler/article210765909.html
As Charlotte Hornets' next head coach, here are 8 things James Borrego should do immediately...


https://fansided.com/2018/05/09/james-borrego-improve-hornets/
3 things James Borrego can do to improve the Hornets


http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article210714729.html
Hornets got James Borrego from Spurs. At his best, he brings 4 great habits with him.
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Re: Borrego named head coach 

Post#93 » by amcoolio » Wed May 9, 2018 5:07 pm

Make MKG the 4, then we can't play Howard....

I'd make MKG the 4, Kaminksy the 5, and Zeller the energy big off the bench

Try to get rid of Marvin and Dwight

Move Batum to 5, and draft/acquire a two way 2 guard who plays D and shoots 3's
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Re: Borrego named head coach 

Post#94 » by fatlever » Wed May 9, 2018 5:13 pm

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Post#95 » by Robot Rock » Wed May 9, 2018 5:38 pm

amcoolio wrote:Make MKG the 4, then we can't play Howard....

I'd make MKG the 4, Kaminksy the 5, and Zeller the energy big off the bench

Try to get rid of Marvin and Dwight

Move Batum to 5, and draft/acquire a two way 2 guard who plays D and shoots 3's


Nic Batum at center?
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Re: Borrego named head coach 

Post#96 » by yosemiteben » Wed May 9, 2018 6:07 pm

fatlever wrote:
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Has there even been a formal announcement from the team yet?
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Re: Borrego named head coach 

Post#97 » by Braggins » Wed May 9, 2018 6:29 pm

Robot Rock wrote:
amcoolio wrote:Make MKG the 4, then we can't play Howard....

I'd make MKG the 4, Kaminksy the 5, and Zeller the energy big off the bench

Try to get rid of Marvin and Dwight

Move Batum to 5, and draft/acquire a two way 2 guard who plays D and shoots 3's


Nic Batum at center?

You could technically play Batum at the 5 at times when the other team is playing a small PF or a SF at the 5, but I don't think you'd ever really consider him a 5. He needs to play the 4 a lot more and is more of a 3/4 hybrid than a SG, though.
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Re: Borrego named head coach 

Post#98 » by Robot Rock » Wed May 9, 2018 6:40 pm

Mitch going behind the scenes.
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Re: Borrego named head coach 

Post#99 » by amcoolio » Wed May 9, 2018 6:46 pm

I meant 3, but yeah, ideally he's a 3-4 at this stage in his career
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Re: Borrego named head coach 

Post#100 » by fatlever » Wed May 9, 2018 8:36 pm

we can all at least agree that nic aint a **** sg.

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