Quin Snyder for COY

Daddy 801 · Post #21 » by **Daddy 801** » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:49 am

BarneyGumble wrote:If the awards were given purely upon expectations coming in vs results going out, Snyder would be unanimous.....

Nate McMillan would be in the running. They had a similar offseason where they lost their main guy and many people had them tanking. He did a fantastic job.

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BarneyGumble · Post #22 » by **BarneyGumble** » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:01 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:
BarneyGumble wrote:If the awards were given purely upon expectations coming in vs results going out, Snyder would be unanimous.....

What about the 2003-04 Jazz team that was supposed to be one of the worst teams in history and ended up with a 42-40 record?

In my opinion Sloan should have gotten it that season and in once in either 1997 or 1998, as well.

El Hespiritu · Post #23 » by **El Hespiritu** » Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:57 pm

I was unsure where to post this... it's a crappy-chop melting two of my greatest interests: Utah Jazz and Inoue's Slam Dunk Manga and Anime.

Let's say, in the manganime, the coach was the key to transform a bunch of problematic and apparently non-compatible guys from a shameful disaster to a great team.

I'm still tryin' to figure out how to melt SociopathEyes and Anzai-Sensei
Different kind of people:

"The game is over in the moment you give up"

vryadli · Post #24 » by **vryadli** » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:39 pm

El Hespiritu wrote:I was unsure where to post this... it's a crappy-chop melting two of my greatest interests: Utah Jazz and Inoue's Slam Dunk Manga and Anime.

Let's say, in the manganime, the coach was the key to transform a bunch of different and apparently non-compatible guys from a disaster headed to tanking to a great team.

Supercool picture!!!! It's beyond simple fun and bounds to real art.

BudTugly · Post #25 » by **BudTugly** » Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:22 am

Watch on YouTube

El Hespiritu · Post #26 » by **El Hespiritu** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:43 pm

ESPN made some unofficial poll with Cavaliers' players for NBA Awards votes.

https://kingjamesgospel.com/2018/04/12/cleveland-cavaliers-players-give-picks-nba-awards/

To recap, the Cavaliers would vote James for MVP (12 votes), Donovan Mitchell for ROY (7 votes), Victor Oladipo for Most Improved Player (11 votes), Rudy Gobert for DPOY (5 votes), Lou Williams for Sixth Man of the Year (12 votes) and Quin Snyder for COY (4 votes).

Not relevant (there's some ex-Utah players voting), but related.

Stern Fixer · Post #27 » by **Stern Fixer** » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:42 pm

BudTugly wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Thanks for posting, nice to see the hands on stuff. Great coach definitely deserving of the award, hope he reels it in.

El Hespiritu · Post #28 » by **El Hespiritu** » Fri May 4, 2018 11:58 pm

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RR: Excellent information, excellent knowledge. The best I've listened in a long time. This kind of journalism is dope. Congrats.

He's linkin' a spanish podcast named "El Reverso", from Gonzalo Vazquez (G) and Andrés Monje. Two of the best (if not THE best) NBA european journalists.
Of course, they are not into the Mass Media environment... they are only for connosieurs.

I must say G honored me with his friendship.

So, maybe I'm biased...

....

... The hell I'm biased!! They are The Best and that's all!

This episode recommended by TheGoldenBoy is a monography about SociopathEyes (Quin Snyder).

That episode's sections are:

1) A hectic career: From NCAA troublesome stuff to assisting different NBA coaches including Pops.
2) Moscovian vital stance: The European experience.
3) Destiny Utah: Ídem.
3) 4T philosophy: Snyder's basketball method.
4) Coaching staff: His Pretorian Guard.
5) Optimization: Ingles-Gobert-Rubio. Different approaches to every player to get the best from each one.

(Just click at the button to listen it by ivoox)

If any of you can understand but a few words in Spanish, give it a chance.

It's gold.

El Hespiritu · Post #29 » by **El Hespiritu** » Wed May 9, 2018 2:40 pm

Unofficial.
Provided it's true:

Shame! Shame! Shame!

Casey it's a great coach, no doubt.
Other coaches deserved it more according what I saw this season.

Not only SociopathEyes got few votes... Brad The Implicator got none!
I'm getting a bad opinion about NBA coaches' self-consciousness.

Post #30 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Wed May 9, 2018 2:55 pm

Really? I thought Stevens, Pop, Brown and D'Antoni did a great job this season and were more deserving. It's funny that Casey is voted COY and already there are rumors about the Raptors wanting to replace him:
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/249818/Raptors-Leaning-Towards-Replacing-Dwane-Casey

stitches · Post #31 » by **stitches** » Wed May 9, 2018 3:02 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:Really? I thought Stevens, Pop, Brown and D'Antoni did a great job this season and were more deserving. It's funny that Casey is voted COY and already there are rumors about the Raptors wanting to replace him:
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/249818/Raptors-Leaning-Towards-Replacing-Dwane-Casey

How awkward would it be if Casey gets fired the year he wins COTY? LOL...

Post #32 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Wed May 9, 2018 3:12 pm

stitches wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:Really? I thought Stevens, Pop, Brown and D'Antoni did a great job this season and were more deserving. It's funny that Casey is voted COY and already there are rumors about the Raptors wanting to replace him:
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/249818/Raptors-Leaning-Towards-Replacing-Dwane-Casey

How awkward would it be if Casey gets fired the year he wins COTY? LOL...

Wouldn't be the first time it happens.

BudTugly · Post #33 » by **BudTugly** » Wed May 9, 2018 11:40 pm

Quin pregame:

Watch on YouTube

ForeverRDjazz · Post #34 » by **ForeverRDjazz** » Thu May 10, 2018 12:23 am

Inigo Montoya wrote:
stitches wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:Really? I thought Stevens, Pop, Brown and D'Antoni did a great job this season and were more deserving. It's funny that Casey is voted COY and already there are rumors about the Raptors wanting to replace him:
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/249818/Raptors-Leaning-Towards-Replacing-Dwane-Casey

How awkward would it be if Casey gets fired the year he wins COTY? LOL...

Wouldn't be the first time it happens.

Happen twice to the same person. :banghead:

Daddy 801 · Post #35 » by **Daddy 801** » Thu May 10, 2018 2:41 am

I thought Casey did a good job in the regular season. It’s not like I’m a raptors fan and know a ton. But I’ve read about him completely changing the offense and he took his team to the #1 seed. It’s a shame they couldn’t last longer. I’d like to see the #1 team be able to choose their opponent. It would be good for the league to have the #1 team advance farther in the rounds and it would give more incentive for the regular season to matter.

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Post #36 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Thu May 10, 2018 4:13 pm

Apparently, not only did Casey win COY, but Stevens did not receive a single vote...

stitches · Post #37 » by **stitches** » Thu May 10, 2018 4:34 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:Apparently, not only did Casey win COY, but Stevens did not receive a single vote...

This is not the real COY award. It's the one that the league organize and coaches vote for. The real COY award is voted by selected media.

AingesBurner · Post #38 » by **AingesBurner** » Thu May 10, 2018 4:43 pm

stitches wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:Apparently, not only did Casey win COY, but Stevens did not receive a single vote...

This is not the real COY award. It's the one that the league organize and coaches vote for. The real COY award is voted by selected media.

I would hold that award in high regard than the media award.

Post #39 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Thu May 10, 2018 4:45 pm

stitches wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:Apparently, not only did Casey win COY, but Stevens did not receive a single vote...

This is not the real COY award. It's the one that the league organize and coaches vote for. The real COY award is voted by selected media.

Well, yes. Which should have more credibility than the media award, imho. So how can it be that not even one coach cast a vote for Stevens?

stitches · Post #40 » by **stitches** » Thu May 10, 2018 4:50 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:
stitches wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:Apparently, not only did Casey win COY, but Stevens did not receive a single vote...

This is not the real COY award. It's the one that the league organize and coaches vote for. The real COY award is voted by selected media.

Well, yes. Which should have more credibility than the media award, imho. So how can it be that not even one coach cast a vote for Stevens?

Probably because coaches hold grudges and are petty and can't stand the attention Stevens is getting like he's some superstar coach in a league of his own who can do no wrong. And that's why this award should NOT be the more valuable one. Just like the MVP voted by the players should not be the more valuable one...

A while ago I listened to some podcast where they were discussing how the league was seeing Brad Stevens. I can't remember which one it was because I listen to a ton of them, but the hosts were saying that the league is not falling for the Brad Stevens love fest and that GMs and execs he's been talking to think he's a pretty good coach but they definitely do not see him in the same way the media seems to - total and unquestionable adoration and love. And BTW this voting absolutely confirms what those hosts were saying...