Political Roundtable Part XX

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Oh crap, I forgot Cohen was also Deputy finance chair for the RNC. The weird cult like defense of Trump is starting to make sense. Some GOP lawmakers are going down. Book it.

Nunes would be my guess for one of the most likely to be indicted.

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pcbothwel,

You didn't understand anything I wrote, and I'm not going to spell things out for. Your entire worldview is built on ignorance, and you've proven in two posts that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Like this for example:

Again, I still think the best/most profound changes are yet to come. It takes a lot of political capital to do something with healthcare, entitlements, etc. The economy is looking really good, the tax reduction is helping people, and an international win (I.E. Korea) could be enough to get the ball rolling.

This is complete unfettered delusion totally divorced from fact or reality. Trump has no plans for healthcare or 'entitlements'! Everything legislative thus far has been boilerplate neocon agenda. It's not a matter of 'political capital' - Trump is a dotard with zero interest in policy or governing. Seriously, the Republicans own all three branches. Do explain how he lacks political capital to pass legislation. Also feel free to cite how 'the tax reduction is helping people'.

You should read a book or something. At least sit out the next few election cycles and do some introspection.

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[gtn130]

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The entire GOP and their media apparatus is made up of depraved and unprincipled cretins. It's the Trump party now. SD20 is lovin this

[montestewart]

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That kind of sums up passionate Trump support, doesn't it? Eff the Constitution, eff the rule of law. If we don't like it, we'll murder you. If that ain't fascism, you ain't a dentist. Well, I guess it's even more certain that that.

PS: I heard a good joke in the elevator this morning: Why is a female dentist better than a male dentist? A female dentist is a little less likely to be stilldropin20

[montestewart]

Congratulations to Sec of State Pompeo for securing the release of the hostages, this is a god thing and separate from Trump corruption and money-laundering:

I know it's a typo, but best believe they turn it into a god thing

[stilldropin20]

pcbothwel,

You didn't understand anything I wrote, and I'm not going to spell things out for. Your entire worldview is built on ignorance, and you've proven in two posts that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Like this for example:

Again, I still think the best/most profound changes are yet to come. It takes a lot of political capital to do something with healthcare, entitlements, etc. The economy is looking really good, the tax reduction is helping people, and an international win (I.E. Korea) could be enough to get the ball rolling.

This is complete unfettered delusion totally divorced from fact or reality. Trump has no plans for healthcare or 'entitlements'! Everything legislative thus far has been boilerplate neocon agenda. It's not a matter of 'political capital' - Trump is a dotard with zero interest in policy or governing. Seriously, the Republicans own all three branches. Do explain how he lacks political capital to pass legislation. Also feel free to cite how 'the tax reduction is helping people'.

You should read a book or something. At least sit out the next few election cycles and do some introspection.

"didn't understand"

you dont like trump. what else is there to understand?

[pcbothwel]

pcbothwel,

You didn't understand anything I wrote, and I'm not going to spell things out for. Your entire worldview is built on ignorance, and you've proven in two posts that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Like this for example:

Again, I still think the best/most profound changes are yet to come. It takes a lot of political capital to do something with healthcare, entitlements, etc. The economy is looking really good, the tax reduction is helping people, and an international win (I.E. Korea) could be enough to get the ball rolling.

This is complete unfettered delusion totally divorced from fact or reality. Trump has no plans for healthcare or 'entitlements'! Everything legislative thus far has been boilerplate neocon agenda. It's not a matter of 'political capital' - Trump is a dotard with zero interest in policy or governing. Seriously, the Republicans own all three branches. Do explain how he lacks political capital to pass legislation. Also feel free to cite how 'the tax reduction is helping people'.

You should read a book or something. At least sit out the next few election cycles and do some introspection.

yeah, Im done with you. You're an absolute idiot if you dont think it takes massive political capital to make any changes to entitlements.
Trump has no plan, hes a racist and sexist. My white, male privileged blinds me from facts. #Woke
Good luck with life chief

[gtn130]

Trump has no plan, hes a racist and sexist.

Pretty amusing how this is said sarcastically as if it's some liberal cartoonish interpretation of Trump. Trump is literally those things, buddy. It's why his base likes him! It's why you like him!

[stilldropin20]

pcbothwel,

You didn't understand anything I wrote, and I'm not going to spell things out for. Your entire worldview is built on ignorance, and you've proven in two posts that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Like this for example:

Again, I still think the best/most profound changes are yet to come. It takes a lot of political capital to do something with healthcare, entitlements, etc. The economy is looking really good, the tax reduction is helping people, and an international win (I.E. Korea) could be enough to get the ball rolling.

This is complete unfettered delusion totally divorced from fact or reality. Trump has no plans for healthcare or 'entitlements'! Everything legislative thus far has been boilerplate neocon agenda. It's not a matter of 'political capital' - Trump is a dotard with zero interest in policy or governing. Seriously, the Republicans own all three branches. Do explain how he lacks political capital to pass legislation. Also feel free to cite how 'the tax reduction is helping people'.

You should read a book or something. At least sit out the next few election cycles and do some introspection.

yeah, Im done with you. You're an absolute idiot if you dont think it takes massive political capital to make any changes to entitlements.
Trump has no plan, hes a racist and sexist. My white, male privileged blinds me from facts. #Woke
Good luck with life chief

Good post!! Yeah he’s pretty much the biggest idiot anti trumper on here. Total dweeb! Literally so blinded by his own pomposity that I don’t think he will ever find his way out of his mommas basement.


Btw and have you guys noticed Trump getting that work done 3 AM? Compare that to Hillary Rodham Clinton‘s work at 3 AM.

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[stilldropin20]

Not sure if any of you guys are interested in real journalism anymore? But if so I thought I’d put this out there.

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Shots fired


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[stilldropin20]

Chalk this up in the growing extremely long list of the multitude of things the Democrats are wrong about and will continue to be wrong about. They just are not very good at negotiating.

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Just in case anybody’s counting

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These idiots just can’t help themselves. Maybe change your coverage?

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Kamala Harris deleted this tweet of her and Cory Booker playing grab ass under the table.


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[Zonkerbl]

Just to summarize what happened last week. Michael Avanetti released proof that, essentially, Michael Cohen has been collecting bribes on Trump's behalf from various corporate interests around the globe. I wasn't surprised - NO ONE was surprised. We all knew this was the kind of man Trump is - a criminal. This is why I've been SO ANGRY the entire two decades this criminal has been President, because I'm not an idiot - I know what's happening. We ALL know what's happening - including the people who voted for him. We CHOSE this. No, I wasn't surprised - just deeply, deeply disappointed in my country.

[Zonkerbl]

pcbothwel, welcome to the thread. Don't knock Rachel Maddow - there's a reason the evil billionaires running the Republican grift don't want you to watch her. I too was a victim of the smear campaign of her but my opinion of her changed after I read this interview of her by Ezra Klein:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/2/9/10951090/rachel-maddow-ezra-klein

Democracy is on fire right now and unless we can convince guys like you to put down the gasoline and torches we're done. It'll be a slow and painful process, and my kids will suffer, and my grandkids will suffer even more, and I'm trying like crazy not to put them through that.

The internet has lowered the cost of manipulating people who don't mind being manipulated, who *want* to be manipulated. That's you - now hear me out, I don't mean that as an insult. You are being played by Trump, whose business model is to profit off of gullibility. He is a genius at the con. But con games have two participants, the player and the played. Why do you choose to let yourself be played? Does Trump's message heal some deep pain inside you? What happened to you? Why are you in such pain? Can we fix it so you don't feel you have to destroy Democracy to make yourself feel better?

You are a valuable person. Your opinion matters. You are smart enough to perceive the truth yourself, and not have it dictated to you by someone else. But that's what the grifters say too. How do you break out of the grifters' grip? The first sign that you're reading something that is true is it does not give you an adrenaline rush of good feeling after reading it. It's not crack, it's vegetables. It doesn't confirm what you want to hear. It doesn't make you mad (that's what the grifters on the other side try to do), but it leaves you a little disappointed, in yourself and in others, for being fooled. It forces you to confront some ideas that you were taking for granted before. It doesn't feel good to acknowledge the truth. But it does mean you are a real man, an independent thinker, and not a patsy.

People have asked me on this thread, if we can't trust Breitbart/Fox/Sinclair as a news source, what should we watch? There's no one news source that has a monopoly on truth, that's kind of how the press works - they succeed in the market of providing information 1) by providing news that people are interested in (this is what Fox/Breitbart/Sinclair excel at) and 2) showing that they are better than other news providers by showing the other news is false. And within each news agency there are all-stars, even in the crappool that is CNN. So following individual journalists on Twitter is a good way to start.

For those of us choosing not to participate in the Breitbart/Fox/Sinclair/Trump grift, it's obvious where the good news sources are. But you have to identify them yourself - if you let someone else dictate to you where the truth comes from, you've already lost the game.

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Remember Trumps lie about him or his people having nothing to do with Russians?

[stilldropin20]

Just to summarize what happened last week. Michael Avanetti released proof that, essentially, Michael Cohen has been collecting bribes on Trump's behalf from various corporate interests around the globe. I wasn't surprised - NO ONE was surprised. We all knew this was the kind of man Trump is - a criminal. This is why I've been SO ANGRY the entire two decades this criminal has been President, because I'm not an idiot - I know what's happening. We ALL know what's happening - including the people who voted for him. We CHOSE this. No, I wasn't surprised - just deeply, deeply disappointed in my country.

there is no evidence that cohen did this on behalf o ftrump. at all. mone. in fact its very unlikely. cohen found a way to get paid and is getting paid.


no different than if zonker was trump and zonker liked to sneak on the message boards and chat under the alias zonker. and ONLY ONE of us knew zonker was trump. and THAT oarticular one of us convinced ATT (or russians) to pay us to so as to learn about zonker. and we could tell ATT a lot about zonker based on his posts. Zonker could and likely would be completely innocent o fanything nefarious except his ridiculous political leanings.