ECF: P1 | (2) Boston Celtics vs (4) Cleveland Cavaliers | BOS 2-0

[ajones9219]

usage mean anything to you? get a better past time, those recent numbers don't mean much as far as player effectiveness in this match up. The Cavs players are more reliable and have played at a higher level for a longer time than anyone you have.
But that's cool keep thinking you got this Isaiah

“More reliable”? Based off of what measured stat? Again, the numbers don’t support your argument at all.

CLE fans - come get your mans. He started drinking early.

less minutes and a better per oohh shocking. Hill was hurt , etc.
Dude your logic is flawed. Even if your personnel is as good in this series as they have been on paper they are not good enough to stop the King. I don't drink fool

You should start. Sobriety doesn't suit you lol

[JoeBarryCaroll]

In 2016 Boston lost to Clevalnd in the Eastern Conf playoffs 4 games to 0

In 2017 Boston lost to Cleveland in the Eastern Conf playoffs 4 games to 1

If Cleveland sweeps Boston this year should Stevens be fired?? Of course not. But Dwayne Casey was fired even though his record in the playoffs vs the Cavs is about the same or slightly better than Stevens....

[HeartBreakKid]

In 2016 Boston lost to Clevalnd in the Eastern Conf playoffs 4 games to 0

In 2017 Boston lost to Cleveland in the Eastern Conf playoffs 4 games to 1

If Cleveland sweeps Boston this year should Stevens be fired?? Of course not. But Dwayne Casey was fired even though his record in the playoffs vs the Cavs is about the same or slightly better than Stevens....

I mean they have different teams, and the Celtics were swept by the Cavs in 2015, not 2016.

[Stillwater]

“More reliable”? Based off of what measured stat? Again, the numbers don’t support your argument at all.

CLE fans - come get your mans. He started drinking early.

less minutes and a better per oohh shocking. Hill was hurt , etc.
Dude your logic is flawed. Even if your personnel is as good in this series as they have been on paper they are not good enough to stop the King. I don't drink fool

You should start. Sobriety doesn't suit you lol

Yeah numbness is not needed. I have all of the vitriol I need to rile up the fan base of the rival that are in love with their motivational speaker of a coach. I know he is a really solid coach, better than Lue etc but frustrating the posers is more than enough fuel for me to dare to be remotely critical.
Can't wait to see him try to play Morris or Smart as opposed to Baynes who is by far more effective for them with Al at the 4 but Baynes no shot of defending Love hence the line up adjustment that once changed after failure will just revert back to what he already knew...Baynes can't stop Love.

[ajones9219]

In 2016 Boston lost to Clevalnd in the Eastern Conf playoffs 4 games to 0

In 2017 Boston lost to Cleveland in the Eastern Conf playoffs 4 games to 1

If Cleveland sweeps Boston this year should Stevens be fired?? Of course not. But Dwayne Casey was fired even though his record in the playoffs vs the Cavs is about the same or slightly better than Stevens....

The first year our starting line up contained Evan turner, and Jared Sullinger. That roster was trash and it was a miracle they even made the playoffs at all

[otwok]

How is Celtics in 7 leading the vote? Are people really thinking Lebron James is going to lose a game 7 to a team that doesn't have anyone on the court that would be able to outplay him? There must be a lot of Boston fans.

[SmartWentCrazy]

It's only factoring in games with the core group so I'm assuming the games omitted were ones that Horford, Brown, and Tatum missed, as well.

That feels highly selective. Why shouldnt game 1 vs Philly count as an indicator of who Boston is because Brown sat out?

Because then it would be a biased assessment. The purpose of the comparison is to compare the two teams at "full strength" - which obviously doesn't mean with Kyrie and Hayward, but the teams going into the Conference Finals. If you decide to include one game that the Celtics happened to play well in without Brown, then should you also include a game such as the one against the Pelicans on March 18th where he was also the only guy from that core missing and the Celtics lost by 19? A 20 game sample size is enough to get at least a relative idea of how good a team is. And while Boston's performance against Game 1 without Brown does reflect the team's ability, it's only one game and over a larger sample size that would gradually "correct" itself as the Celtics are clearly a better team with Brown.

But thats my point— it should just be the ~30 games after Kyrie went down. Otherwise, youre being highly selective in your sample.

[JoeBarryCaroll]

In 2016 Boston lost to Clevalnd in the Eastern Conf playoffs 4 games to 0

In 2017 Boston lost to Cleveland in the Eastern Conf playoffs 4 games to 1

If Cleveland sweeps Boston this year should Stevens be fired?? Of course not. But Dwayne Casey was fired even though his record in the playoffs vs the Cavs is about the same or slightly better than Stevens....

I mean they have different teams, and the Celtics were swept by the Cavs in 2015, not 2016.

I think you may have missed the point. That said, you're good with the details.

[NyKnicks1714]

I see a quick series regardless of who wins. I can imagine Cleveland winning in 4 to 6, or Boston winning in 5. Boston in 7 seems unlikely.

[Benedict_Boozer]

Jesus didn't know Horford was 1-16 against lbj

Is this accurate? If so holy ****. I know Thompson typically has taken his lunch money but damn.

[UNCBlue012]

In 2016 Boston lost to Clevalnd in the Eastern Conf playoffs 4 games to 0

In 2017 Boston lost to Cleveland in the Eastern Conf playoffs 4 games to 1

If Cleveland sweeps Boston this year should Stevens be fired?? Of course not. But Dwayne Casey was fired even though his record in the playoffs vs the Cavs is about the same or slightly better than Stevens....

2015 -- not 2016. And that's a fair argument, I suppose, but the Raptors were a MUCH better team this year than Boston either year.

[JoeBarryCaroll]

How is Celtics in 7 leading the vote? Are people really thinking Lebron James is going to lose a game 7 to a team that doesn't have anyone on the court that would be able to outplay him? There must be a lot of Boston fans.

You're right of course but it's fans being fans.

Early in the Toronto vs Cleveland series the poll vote was largely in favor of the Raptors and pretty much everyone should have seen the Cavs beating them. It's natural though for fans of a team to have some rose colored glasses.

[UNCBlue012]

How is Celtics in 7 leading the vote? Are people really thinking Lebron James is going to lose a game 7 to a team that doesn't have anyone on the court that would be able to outplay him? There must be a lot of Boston fans.

Or... and I know this is a radical idea sometimes... people just believe the Celtics win in seven games?

For the record, I said Cavs in six. I hope the Cs win, but...

[KHRICH]

Jesus didn't know Horford was 1-16 against lbj

Is this accurate? If so holy ****. I know Thompson typically has taken his lunch money but damn.

Yea talk show was talking about it earlier. I dont care for nick the lebron nut hugger but thats crazy.

Read on Twitter

[jfs1000d]

So Celtics fans will you acknowledge that LeBron trumps all if the Cavs win? I mean you all acknowledge that Boston has the better overall roster. So you should win the series, right?

We “all” acknowledged this? Series hasn’t started and some of you are already salty and reaching.

Celtics have deeper talent, but it isn’t a huge disparity IMO.

But, how about this. If Lebron wasn’t on Cleveland, could this roster do what the Celtics did?

That’s an apples to apples.

So, if Lebron gets to finals again, you bend the knee. Yes, a great player cAn carry you. Let’s not act like that Cavs are some overwhelming favorite.

They aren’t nearly the team they were a year ago.


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[jfs1000d]

Brown is not better than Smith, Rozier is not better than Hill, Morris is not better than Green or Nance.
I also think Tatum is over rated in this series.
Korver is a better shooter than anyone on their roster etc.
Baynes is not better than Thompson defensively.
Regardless of how you see it, the reality is the Cavs are much better than you are giving them credit and they have Lebron
which you don't have anyone close too.

Ok I’ll bite.

Terry Rozier ‘18 playoffs:
- 19.5 per
- Per36.. Higher points, assists, rebounds, steals, less turnovers on higher usage, better outside scoring & floor spacing.

George Hill ‘18 playoffs:
- 13.3 per
- 9ppg on .286 from 3

Genuinely curious.. do any of you other Cavs fans take this guy seriously.

?

Seems like every game-thread you come in thinking you hit the bottom of the barrel in the last one. The other comparisons: not worth the time. Do better.


*edit.. just for kicks.

Brown is playing less minutes than Smith in the PS yet he has a better PER, more points on better shooting percentages - especially from 3. He’s actually better in almost every single statistic that matters.

usage mean anything to you? get a better past time, those recent numbers don't mean much as far as player effectiveness in this match up. The Cavs players are more reliable and have played at a higher level for a longer time than anyone you have.
But that's cool keep thinking you got this Isaiah

Ok. Trade JR Smith for Jaylen Brown at the deadline. Does Cleveland do it if offered?

That tell u all you need to know. Brown is a better player than Smith. Not a better shooter. Better all around player. Smith wouldn’t start on the Celtics.


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[Stillwater]

So Celtics fans will you acknowledge that LeBron trumps all if the Cavs win? I mean you all acknowledge that Boston has the better overall roster. So you should win the series, right?

We “all” acknowledged this? Series hasn’t started and some of you are already salty and reaching.

Celtics have deeper talent, but it isn’t a huge disparity IMO.

But, how about this. If Lebron wasn’t on Cleveland, could this roster do what the Celtics did?

That’s an apples to apples.

So, if Lebron gets to finals again, you bend the knee. Yes, a great player cAn carry you. Let’s not act like that Cavs are some overwhelming favorite.

They aren’t nearly the team they were a year ago.


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You better hope Stevens isn't that naive

[Stillwater]

Ok I’ll bite.

Terry Rozier ‘18 playoffs:
- 19.5 per
- Per36.. Higher points, assists, rebounds, steals, less turnovers on higher usage, better outside scoring & floor spacing.

George Hill ‘18 playoffs:
- 13.3 per
- 9ppg on .286 from 3

Genuinely curious.. do any of you other Cavs fans take this guy seriously.

?

Seems like every game-thread you come in thinking you hit the bottom of the barrel in the last one. The other comparisons: not worth the time. Do better.


*edit.. just for kicks.

Brown is playing less minutes than Smith in the PS yet he has a better PER, more points on better shooting percentages - especially from 3. He’s actually better in almost every single statistic that matters.

usage mean anything to you? get a better past time, those recent numbers don't mean much as far as player effectiveness in this match up. The Cavs players are more reliable and have played at a higher level for a longer time than anyone you have.
But that's cool keep thinking you got this Isaiah

Ok. Trade JR Smith for Jaylen Brown at the deadline. Does Cleveland do it if offered?

That tell u all you need to know. Brown is a better player than Smith. Not a better shooter. Better all around player. Smith wouldn’t start on the Celtics.


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Not unless they want a better regular season player no.

[jfs1000d]

We “all” acknowledged this? Series hasn’t started and some of you are already salty and reaching.

Celtics have deeper talent, but it isn’t a huge disparity IMO.

But, how about this. If Lebron wasn’t on Cleveland, could this roster do what the Celtics did?

That’s an apples to apples.

So, if Lebron gets to finals again, you bend the knee. Yes, a great player cAn carry you. Let’s not act like that Cavs are some overwhelming favorite.

They aren’t nearly the team they were a year ago.


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You better hope Stevens isn't that naive

You think this Cavs team is better than last year’s Cavs team?


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[23-_6-_23]

The Al Horford/Lebron statistic is actually insane. My favorite part is Horford's sister twitter fingers complaining about all 17 of those games.