dacrusha wrote:Master Ze wrote:I'd be shocked if another team hired Casey as HC.
What I like about Bud is that he knows how to run an actual offense. Look at the ball movement he preaches, incredible.
Really? The Hawks have been a bottom-5 offense for three years in a row.
You’re just as bad as the guy who posted their record and used it as evidence that he’s a bad coach. They were a top 6 offense when he had a formidable all around lineup.
We have better individual talents than they do, horford and Millsap for all their praise didn’t make the all star team all that often. And Teague is extremely overrated. I think they had a mismatched roster in a lot of ways - Horford and Millsap are similar types of players who take up the same space (high post/high elbow/low post/three point stretch shooting) and were forced to operate together. Teague loves to hold the ball way too long and it doesn’t work with the type of offense Bud ran. It’s predicated on not having the PG over handle.
Over here Kyle plays much more like a combo guard, doesn’t hold the ball long, and is a three point sniper, so he’s a great coach for him. The worry is how DeRozan would fare.
What you’re looking at is how the sets are run, the motion, the ball movement, and Atlanta hasn’t fallen short in that regard.
In recent years they’ve started a tank movement and also integrated players like Howard. Statistics wise all his guys put up stats, even the role players. He’s the one who reinvented guys like bazemore and Carroll who were afterthoughts on other squads, ditto for Dedmon, ditto for Sefolosha. Again, this guy gets a **** ton of production out of his role players. People didn't find out Horford was a legit 3 point shooter until his last year in Atlanta, same for Millsap. Millsap didn't start hitting 3's at all in Utah until he came under Budenholzer. Tim Hardaway Jr. signed that deal with the Knicks because he resurrected his career with the Hawks.
This was the first year really the Raptors started getting far more serious role player production.
He could do with more talent..
If we look at Kenny Atkinson as an extension of Budenholzer, Atkinson had the Nets at the 6th highest pace this past season, and the Hawks were 8th, the Raps were 13th but had a great ORTG at 3rd overall in the league. I want to see more up-tempo out of this team, we have the athletes, we're going to need more shooting and creating, and our defense (outside of facing the Cavs) is generally pretty stellar (yet somehow consistently dips in the last 1-2 months of the season).
For all the numbers, and the fact that the Raptors have finished in the top 5 or top 10 in ORTG a few times under Casey, the offense just never looks good. This past year was the first time I felt we had a respectable NBA level offense with more motion and movement and passing. And despite our strong ORTG, we don't look like we know how to run an offense come playoff time.
What we can trust with the Raptors is that Masai knows how to build a squad based on what his coach likes, he's done it for Casey a few times, so I imagine he can bring in the pieces or modify this team for Bud.
I would also argue that Korver's regression, Carroll's departure - were two major reasons why the Hawks fell off. They also never had anyone at shooting guard or small forward who could create for others. Teague doesn't know whether he's a passer or a scorer, etc.
In a league so hell bent on having guards and small forwards who can score at will, Bud has never had that luxury, let alone a true 1A scorer.
The Hawks roster was probably the most treadmilly of any, far surpassing the Raptors even.
Maybe Bud can get JV to knock down more threes? Bud definitely got Horford to knock down more threes when he arrived in Atlanta.
