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Jamaaliver wrote:macd-gm wrote:He's definitely intriguing. The problem for me in this draft is almost every player breaks at least one of my rules for a top 3 pick
- don't take a center
- don't take anyone that can't shoot
- don't take hyped euro players
- don't take players named Marvin
- don't take anyone from Duke
I think Porter is a guy who passes these tests.
Bulls MailbagSAM SMITH wrote:The consensus seems to be there are three levels of the draft in the top 10. The first is the top three, generally thought to be Ayton, Bagley and Doncic. When drafting top three, the view is to get an impact player. Doncic perhaps raises the most questions in that group because of a lack of high level athletic ability. But he's got great size and excellent skills for such a young player and likely deserves that top three recognition.
Then at the next level there's Jackson Jr. and Porter, both of whom raise some questions, though could be breakthrough players. Porter, of course had back surgery and there were questions about his interactions with teammates. But he was considered the No. 1 pick in this draft before this season and a fabulously talented wing player. Jackson is the youngest player in the draft coming off not the greatest of freshman seasons, somewhat unready but with a high talent ceiling. Which is what the top of the draft generally us about. Those two are considered perhaps as talented as the top three, but with more risk.
Then to the third level there's the next five, all limited in some way, though talented. It's generally accepted to be Mo Bamba, Mikal Bridges, Wendell Carter, Trae Young and Collin Sexton. Though remember last year Donovan Mitchell didn't crack the top 10 in any of the mock drafts. Bamba is tall and long, but extremely skinny and a question mark in this era about playing against those common small matchups the top teams use. Can you even play him in the fourth quarter? A lottery pick. Bridges can shoot and defend, but isn't much with the dribble. Carter is a big man without great athletic ability. Young is a top shooter and passer, though small and a poor defender. Sexton isn't a particularly good shooter, though a tough, aggressive point guard. You figure three of the five will be really good. But which three?
And the other four, Knox, Bridges, Williams and Shai, aren't that far behind those five and some will be better. Again, which ones? Still a lot of questions to be answered and some pretty nervous people making draft selections.
Jamaaliver wrote:I think because of his superior girth, wingspan and strength...he could be better than Bradley.
If Hawks manage to grab Doncic or Trae Young with our top pick, KT is the ideal complement to either of them at SG.
King Ken wrote:I am really hoping we can move up in this draft while keeping the #19 pick.
jayu70 wrote:King Ken wrote:I am really hoping we can move up in this draft while keeping the #19 pick.
How do you propose we do that?
You'll have to do something like Prince and/or Collins plus next year's Cavs 1st...I'd pass.
King Ken wrote:I am really hoping we can move up in this draft while keeping the #19 pick.
dms269 wrote:King Ken wrote:I am really hoping we can move up in this draft while keeping the #19 pick.
Move up as in into the top 3 or move up as in higher than 19?
tbhawksfan1 wrote:Just checked out a nba draft value chart https://fansided.com/2016/06/16/nba-draft-trade-value-chart/ and it says that #30 + #33 = #19. Hawks need quality more than quantity to build a competitor for a chip
Jamaaliver wrote:I am so hopeful we can either get this kid or Lonnie Walker IV at #19.
Both profile to be (at worst) elite 3 & D players at SG slot for years.
Jamaaliver wrote:I am so hopeful we can either get this kid or Lonnie Walker IV at #19.
Both profile to be (at worst) elite 3 & D players at SG slot for years.
Jamaaliver wrote:
The StepienAfter Recent Struggles Is Luka Doncic Still Number One?
With Doncic cooling off during the latter stages of the season, his critics have increased in numbers and become even louder. At the same time, the other half of the online draft community seemingly refuses to acknowledge Doncic’s recent struggles and treat his projection as if he still has the 74 percent true shooting mark from December. There is very little in between with Doncic, whether you praise him or criticize him, one of the two factions is sure to jump down your throat and refuse to acknowledge the possibility of Doncic having any strengths or weaknesses as a prospect.
Going back to preseason, I had Luka Doncic number one overall on my big board. When he was shooting lights out in Euroleague, it seemed blasphemous to even consider anyone else close to Doncic. Yet, I remained skeptical of his ability to keep up his ridiculous percentages over an extended period. That assumption obviously turned out to be correct. On the other hand, I had also wondered about his developmental upside relative to other prospects his age and whether he would improve at the same rate as them. Doncic has improved just fine and so far, that seems wrong.
While Doncic has clearly struggled scoring and taking care off the ball, it’s important to note that his assists are actually up. This immediately makes me think that teams have devoted a larger section of the game plan to stopping him
Fatigue has been often used as an excuse for these struggles and there might be some truth to that since his free throw shooting is down almost 7 percent. Since he has played roughly as many total minutes as most top college players, if Doncic is indeed “tired” it would mean his conditioning is a glaring weakness. In order to face the grueling NBA schedule, he’ll need drastic development in that area.
