Playoffs Discussion

[jcsunsfan]

If the Cavs don't win this year, this would end the 34 year streak of Shaq having a NBA champion teammate. Moreover, if the Cavs don't win it all, I think this pretty much cements Lebron fleeing da land for Hollywood, the city of Brotherly Love, or H-Town. I know it's still early (and I expect the Cavs to win in 6), but I could see the same flashes of dejection in Lebron today that were also present in the 2010 series vs the Celtics.

I know this has been lightheartedly been thrown around the forums but...let's look at the empirical evidence. Jordan cannot win without Pippen. Kobe cannot win without Derek Fisher. Likewise, Lebron cannot win without James Jones. where is James Jones currently employed?

just imagine what that would do for Lebron's legacy...ok, he might have made a misstep taking his talents to South Beach...but wasn't that rectified by winning one for da land back in 2016? Has any 'modern' star athlete, still in their prime, taken the championship virginity of TWO teams before, especially a franchise as sorry as the Phoenix Paper-Bag Suns??

You are funny.

Anyway. LeBron will go east. Philly, Boston, or the Knicks. Boston would be easy, they already have the guns. But not sure Ainge would take him, and I don't see Kyrie sharing. If LeBron can get someone else to go to the Knicks with him, it might work. It would probably be financially worth it for LeBron to sign with the Knicks for much less than the max. He could easily make up for it in endorsements, especially if they win.

LeBron and Kahwi to the Knicks? I could see that. LeBron signs cheap, San Antonio takes KP and a future #1. They draft Mikal Bridges or Wendell Carter . KP gets outa there. Kahwi gets his big market. LeBron gets to be a hero again.

[bwgood77]

Marcus Morris being the leading scorer of a semi finals game in which his team won is quite something...

Got to admit, he has matured quite a bit. I do think it took separating the brothers.

Brown was the leading scorer, but Morris was close. Morris had a better +/- though, but not as good as Tatum (close there also).

[lilfishi22]

If the Cavs don't win this year, this would end the 34 year streak of Shaq having a NBA champion teammate. Moreover, if the Cavs don't win it all, I think this pretty much cements Lebron fleeing da land for Hollywood, the city of Brotherly Love, or H-Town. I know it's still early (and I expect the Cavs to win in 6), but I could see the same flashes of dejection in Lebron today that were also present in the 2010 series vs the Celtics.

I know this has been lightheartedly been thrown around the forums but...let's look at the empirical evidence. Jordan cannot win without Pippen. Kobe cannot win without Derek Fisher. Likewise, Lebron cannot win without James Jones. where is James Jones currently employed?

just imagine what that would do for Lebron's legacy...ok, he might have made a misstep taking his talents to South Beach...but wasn't that rectified by winning one for da land back in 2016? Has any 'modern' star athlete, still in their prime, taken the championship virginity of TWO teams before, especially a franchise as sorry as the Phoenix Paper-Bag Suns??

You are funny.

Anyway. LeBron will go east. Philly, Boston, or the Knicks. Boston would be easy, they already have the guns. But not sure Ainge would take him, and I don't see Kyrie sharing. If LeBron can get someone else to go to the Knicks with him, it might work. It would probably be financially worth it for LeBron to sign with the Knicks for much less than the max. He could easily make up for it in endorsements, especially if they win.

LeBron and Kahwi to the Knicks? I could see that. LeBron signs cheap, San Antonio takes KP and a future #1. They draft Mikal Bridges or Wendell Carter . KP gets outa there. Kahwi gets his big market. LeBron gets to be a hero again.

That would be such a NY thing to do so I want to see that ****show

[DirtyDez]

Simmons for Kawhi if he’s willing to re-sign...

Fultz/McConnell
Redick/Fultz
Kawhi/Covington
Lebron/Saric
Embiid/Holmes

[lilfishi22]

Simmons for Kawhi if he’s willing to re-sign...

Fultz/McConnell
Redick/Fultz
Kawhi/Covington
Lebron/Saric
Embiid/Holmes

Scary team right there

[JMac1]

Marcus Morris being the leading scorer of a semi finals game in which his team won is quite something...

Got to admit, he has matured quite a bit. I do think it took separating the brothers.

Or some people could have just been overly critical of his behavior.

[darealjuice]

Marcus Morris being the leading scorer of a semi finals game in which his team won is quite something...

Got to admit, he has matured quite a bit. I do think it took separating the brothers.

Or some people could have just been overly critical of his behavior.

Lol is this serious? People were over critical of someone who beats family friends in public, chokes his teammate on the bench during a game, and throws towels at their coach when they get pulled? That’s crap.

The Morris twins were punks together at Kansas and they were the same in Phoenix. Don’t rewrite history because Marcus Morris had a good game.

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[JMac1]

Got to admit, he has matured quite a bit. I do think it took separating the brothers.

Or some people could have just been overly critical of his behavior.

Lol is this serious? People were over critical of someone who beats family friends in public, chokes his teammate on the bench during a game, and throws towels at their coach when they get pulled? That’s crap.

The Morris twins were punks together at Kansas and they were the same in Phoenix. Don’t rewrite history because Marcus Morris had a good game.

Yes. Judging someone on a single incident is being over critical. Because someone makes a mistake, that mistake shouldn’t define him or her. People are concrete operational at a young age. They don’t change overnight. The situation has a lot to do with choices a person makes, good and bad. This board hated the Morris twins, I remember well. I spent a countless number of posts defending them. Thank god he isn’t here anymore because I’d be still doing it just by reading your response.

Glad he is enjoying success elsewhere. And btw the way you wrote this post,it’s says a lot about your character.

The guy before me said he seemed to have matured. Then you respond and say my post was because he had a good game....get a **** mirror!

[darealjuice]

Or some people could have just been overly critical of his behavior.

Lol is this serious? People were over critical of someone who beats family friends in public, chokes his teammate on the bench during a game, and throws towels at their coach when they get pulled? That’s crap.

The Morris twins were punks together at Kansas and they were the same in Phoenix. Don’t rewrite history because Marcus Morris had a good game.

Yes. Judging someone on a single incident is being over critical. Because someone makes a mistake, that mistake shouldn’t define him or her. People are concrete operational at a young age. They don’t change overnight. The situation has a lot to do with choices a person makes, good and bad. This board hated the Morris twins, I remember well. I spent a countless number of posts defending them. Thank god he isn’t here anymore because I’d be still doing it just by reading your response.

Glad he is enjoying success elsewhere. And btw the way you wrote this post,it’s says a lot about your character.

The guy before me said he seemed to have matured. Then you respond and say my post was because he had a good game....get a **** mirror!

I'd message you this instead of putting it on the board, but for some reason you can't receive messages.

Honestly, you can go **** yourself if you're going to pretend I'm a person of bad character because I choose to hold people who do stupid **** accountable for their actions instead of buying their lip service to the media like you do. They're not 15 years olds, they're **** grown men. Stop making excuses for people doing dumb ****. This isn't smoking weed, it's paying people to beat a guy outside of a children's basketball event in broad daylight.

They showed clear disrespect for their teammates, their coach, their organization, AND THE FANS MULTIPLE TIMES (i.e. not a single incident like you continue to claim) while they were here, yet you act like we should be shouldn't be critical of them because what? They've been on their best behavior since they got split up? Nah. We shipped Robert Horry out of town for flinging a towel in Ainge's face, but you're acting like we should have excused the Morris brothers for aiding in beating a man in public, throwing a towel in the Hornacek's face, choking Goodwin on the bench, and starting **** with fans multiple times? Nah.

Don't respond to me. You want to come at me personally because I'm critical of the Morris brothers? Go **** yourself.

[JMac1]

Lol is this serious? People were over critical of someone who beats family friends in public, chokes his teammate on the bench during a game, and throws towels at their coach when they get pulled? That’s crap.

The Morris twins were punks together at Kangarsas and they were the same in Phoenix. Don’t rewrite history because Marcus Morris had a good game.

Yes. Judging someone on a single incident is being over critical. Because someone makes a mistake, that mistake shouldn’t define him or her. People are concrete operational at a young age. They don’t change overnight. The situation has a lot to do with choices a person makes, good and bad. This board hated the Morris twins, I remember well. I spent a countless number of posts defending them. Thank god he isn’t here anymore because I’d be still doing it just by reading your response.

Glad he is enjoying success elsewhere. And btw the way you wrote this post,it’s says a lot about your character.

The guy before me said he seemed to have matured. Then you respond and say my post was because he had a good game....get a **** mirror!

I'd message you this instead of putting it on the board, but for some reason you can't receive messages.

Honestly, you can go **** yourself if you're going to pretend I'm a person of bad character because I choose to hold people who do stupid **** accountable for their actions instead of buying their lip service to the media like you do. They're not 15 years olds, they're **** grown men. Stop making excuses for people doing dumb ****. This isn't smoking weed, it's paying people to beat a guy outside of a children's basketball event in broad daylight.

They showed clear disrespect for their teammates, their coach, their organization, AND THE FANS MULTIPLE TIMES (i.e. not a single incident like you continue to claim) while they were here, yet you act like we should be shouldn't be critical of them because what? They've been on their best behavior since they got split up? Nah. We shipped Robert Horry out of town for flinging a towel in Ainge's face, but you're acting like we should have excused the Morris brothers for aiding in beating a man in public, throwing a towel in the Hornacek's face, choking Goodwin on the bench, and starting **** with fans multiple times? Nah.

Don't respond to me. You want to come at me personally because I'm critical of the Morris brothers? Go **** yourself.

No. the problem is..... you are so angry about someone you don’t even know. Dude said something positive about Marcus and you get crazy because someone says that people on this board are could have been over critical. Then you go off worse than the Morris twins reportedly have. And you don’t see the hypocrisy in it, very sad.

Don’t know why I can’t recieve messages?!?

Edit: btw, do you know about all the fights between teammates and coaches that happens that isn’t reported? So brining up an incident between players and coaches is laughable. Certain things “leak” for whatever reason. As far as the “fight” nothing happened to them. You have know idea what happened and until you walk in their shoes you don’t know how they should or should not have responded in the heat if the moment.

Maybe Archie deserved to get choke. People on here say they would do a lot worse stuff if they were athletes dealing with the things they deal with.

You have some issues with the Morris bros. Good luck with that. He isn’t a Sun so I could care less. Glad he is proving all of his haters wrong tho and it pisses them off like you.

Like I said. I defended the Mo Bros big time against a lot of systematic stereotyping a few years ago and it pissed me off. Sorry the reinforcement you were looking for didn’t happen in Boston. Lol!!

[bwgood77]

No need to attack other user's character or to personally escalate these situations.

[kennydorglas]

I lived enough to see someone defending Marcus freakin' Morris.
This is fun.

[darealjuice]

No. the problem is..... you are so angry about someone you don’t even know. Dude said something positive about Marcus and you get crazy because someone says that people on this board are could have been over critical. Then you go off worse than the Morris twins reportedly have. And you don’t see the hypocrisy in it, very sad.

Don’t know why I can’t recieve messages?!?

Edit: btw, do you know about all the fights between teammates and coaches that happens that isn’t reported? So brining up an incident between players and coaches is laughable. Certain things “leak” for whatever reason. As far as the “fight” nothing happened to them. You have know idea what happened and until you walk in their shoes you don’t know how they should or should not have responded in the heat if the moment.

Maybe Archie deserved to get choke. People on here say they would do a lot worse stuff if they were athletes dealing with the things they deal with.

You have some issues with the Morris bros. Good luck with that. He isn’t a Sun do I could careless. Glad he is proving all of his haters wrong tho and it pisses them off like you.

Like I said. I defended the Mo Bros big time against a lot of systematic stereotyping a few years ago and it pissed me off. Sorry the reinforcement you were looking for didn’t happen in Boston. Lol!!

Are you that tone deaf? My anger is 100% sourced from you and your words. My problem starts when you act like the Suns and their fans overreacted to the Morris brothers' incidents with teammates, coaches, fans, and the law while in Phoenix. I get angry when you decide to come at me as person because I feel that way, despite my providing multiple factual incidents where they crossed lines along with a scenario where a better player was booted for a singular incident. I have no problem with the Morris brothers beyond them continuing to act like the Suns were in the wrong for trading them. If they've matured since being separated then that's awesome, but that does not mean that the Suns overreacted to the problems they brought.

Maybe Archie deserved to get choked lol... Did it ever occur to you that no one should be choking their teammate in the middle of a game, regardless of if they "deserved it?"

[JMac1]

No. the problem is..... you are so angry about someone you don’t even know. Dude said something positive about Marcus and you get crazy because someone says that people on this board are could have been over critical. Then you go off worse than the Morris twins reportedly have. And you don’t see the hypocrisy in it, very sad.

Don’t know why I can’t recieve messages?!?

Edit: btw, do you know about all the fights between teammates and coaches that happens that isn’t reported? So brining up an incident between players and coaches is laughable. Certain things “leak” for whatever reason. As far as the “fight” nothing happened to them. You have know idea what happened and until you walk in their shoes you don’t know how they should or should not have responded in the heat if the moment.

Maybe Archie deserved to get choke. People on here say they would do a lot worse stuff if they were athletes dealing with the things they deal with.

You have some issues with the Morris bros. Good luck with that. He isn’t a Sun do I could careless. Glad he is proving all of his haters wrong tho and it pisses them off like you.

Like I said. I defended the Mo Bros big time against a lot of systematic stereotyping a few years ago and it pissed me off. Sorry the reinforcement you were looking for didn’t happen in Boston. Lol!!

Are you that tone deaf? My anger is 100% sourced from you and your words. My problem starts when you act like the Suns and their fans overreacted to the Morris brothers' incidents with teammates, coaches, fans, and the law while in Phoenix. I get angry when you decide to come at me as person because I feel that way, despite my providing multiple factual incidents where they crossed lines along with a scenario where a better player was booted for a singular incident. I have no problem with the Morris brothers beyond them continuing to act like the Suns were in the wrong for trading them. If they've matured since being separated then that's awesome, but that does not mean that the Suns overreacted to the problems they brought.

Maybe Archie deserved to get choked lol... Did it ever occur to you that no one should be choking their teammate in the middle of a game, regardless of if they "deserved it?"

Reread this post. My post was “some people could have over reacted”

Some
Could have...

Those words aren’t an indictment on the “Suns and their Fans”....
talk about tone deaf. Smh. You have something going on to have a problem with me. You went off on such a simple comment. Stop looking for generalizations to justify the anger of your posts. Talk about tone deaf.

As far as Archie. Yea, if you walked in on your wife/girl sleeping with another man, she doesn’t deserve to be slapped and it would be wrong to do it, however, you’d understand why someone would slap her and you would just say that guy is a thug.....context is important.

It’s easy to talk about what you would have done in a situation when you weren’t involved, especially when you have it out for a person or just want to be right.

Funny...I know what you would have done from reading these ridiculous posts. Your ability to find rationale is struggling right now. Let it go.

[darealjuice]

No. the problem is..... you are so angry about someone you don’t even know. Dude said something positive about Marcus and you get crazy because someone says that people on this board are could have been over critical. Then you go off worse than the Morris twins reportedly have. And you don’t see the hypocrisy in it, very sad.

Don’t know why I can’t recieve messages?!?

Edit: btw, do you know about all the fights between teammates and coaches that happens that isn’t reported? So brining up an incident between players and coaches is laughable. Certain things “leak” for whatever reason. As far as the “fight” nothing happened to them. You have know idea what happened and until you walk in their shoes you don’t know how they should or should not have responded in the heat if the moment.

Maybe Archie deserved to get choke. People on here say they would do a lot worse stuff if they were athletes dealing with the things they deal with.

You have some issues with the Morris bros. Good luck with that. He isn’t a Sun do I could careless. Glad he is proving all of his haters wrong tho and it pisses them off like you.

Like I said. I defended the Mo Bros big time against a lot of systematic stereotyping a few years ago and it pissed me off. Sorry the reinforcement you were looking for didn’t happen in Boston. Lol!!

Are you that tone deaf? My anger is 100% sourced from you and your words. My problem starts when you act like the Suns and their fans overreacted to the Morris brothers' incidents with teammates, coaches, fans, and the law while in Phoenix. I get angry when you decide to come at me as person because I feel that way, despite my providing multiple factual incidents where they crossed lines along with a scenario where a better player was booted for a singular incident. I have no problem with the Morris brothers beyond them continuing to act like the Suns were in the wrong for trading them. If they've matured since being separated then that's awesome, but that does not mean that the Suns overreacted to the problems they brought.

Maybe Archie deserved to get choked lol... Did it ever occur to you that no one should be choking their teammate in the middle of a game, regardless of if they "deserved it?"

Reread this post. My post was “some people could have over reacted”

Some
Could have...

Those words aren’t an indictment on the “Suns and their Fans”....
talk about tone deaf. Smh. You have something going on to have a problem with me. You went off on such a simple comment. Stop looking for generalizations to justify the anger of your posts. Talk about tone deaf.

As far as Archie. Yea, if you walked in on your wife/girl sleeping with another man, she doesn’t deserve to be slapped and it would be wrong to do it, however, you’d understand why someone would slap her and you would just say that guy is a thug.....context is important.

Funny...I know what you would have done from reading these ridiculous posts. Your ability to find rationale is struggling right now. Let it go.

It's clearly your ability to rationalize that's struggling lol. You literally just tried to rationalize a player getting choked on the bench by comparing an in-game scenario to walking into your wife sleeping with another man. What does that have to do with anything?

[JMac1]

Are you that tone deaf? My anger is 100% sourced from you and your words. My problem starts when you act like the Suns and their fans overreacted to the Morris brothers' incidents with teammates, coaches, fans, and the law while in Phoenix. I get angry when you decide to come at me as person because I feel that way, despite my providing multiple factual incidents where they crossed lines along with a scenario where a better player was booted for a singular incident. I have no problem with the Morris brothers beyond them continuing to act like the Suns were in the wrong for trading them. If they've matured since being separated then that's awesome, but that does not mean that the Suns overreacted to the problems they brought.

Maybe Archie deserved to get choked lol... Did it ever occur to you that no one should be choking their teammate in the middle of a game, regardless of if they "deserved it?"

Reread this post. My post was “some people could have over reacted”

Some
Could have...

Those words aren’t an indictment on the “Suns and their Fans”....
talk about tone deaf. Smh. You have something going on to have a problem with me. You went off on such a simple comment. Stop looking for generalizations to justify the anger of your posts. Talk about tone deaf.

As far as Archie. Yea, if you walked in on your wife/girl sleeping with another man, she doesn’t deserve to be slapped and it would be wrong to do it, however, you’d understand why someone would slap her and you would just say that guy is a thug.....context is important.

Funny...I know what you would have done from reading these ridiculous posts. Your ability to find rationale is struggling right now. Let it go.

It's clearly your ability to rationalize that's struggling lol. You literally just tried to rationalize a player getting choked on the bench by comparing an in-game scenario by comparing it to walking into your wife sleeping with another man. What does that have to do with anything?

Only you would struggle with that analogy... so that’s ok by me. Not surprised at all.

[darealjuice]

Reread this post. My post was “some people could have over reacted”

Some
Could have...

Those words aren’t an indictment on the “Suns and their Fans”....
talk about tone deaf. Smh. You have something going on to have a problem with me. You went off on such a simple comment. Stop looking for generalizations to justify the anger of your posts. Talk about tone deaf.

As far as Archie. Yea, if you walked in on your wife/girl sleeping with another man, she doesn’t deserve to be slapped and it would be wrong to do it, however, you’d understand why someone would slap her and you would just say that guy is a thug.....context is important.

Funny...I know what you would have done from reading these ridiculous posts. Your ability to find rationale is struggling right now. Let it go.

It's clearly your ability to rationalize that's struggling lol. You literally just tried to rationalize a player getting choked on the bench by comparing an in-game scenario by comparing it to walking into your wife sleeping with another man. What does that have to do with anything?

Only you would struggle with that analogy... so that’s ok by me. Not surprised at all.

I understand the analogy, it's just a dumb ass comparison.

[JMac1]

It's clearly your ability to rationalize that's struggling lol. You literally just tried to rationalize a player getting choked on the bench by comparing an in-game scenario by comparing it to walking into your wife sleeping with another man. What does that have to do with anything?

Only you would struggle with that analogy... so that’s ok by me. Not surprised at all.

I understand the analogy, it's just a dumb ass one.

Only for obtuse thinkers!

[darealjuice]

Only you would struggle with that analogy... so that’s ok by me. Not surprised at all.

I understand the analogy, it's just a dumb ass one.

Only for obtuse thinkers!

Lol rather be obtuse in my thought than completely lacking in logic like you