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2018 NBA Draft Thread

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Who do you think will be the #1 overall pick?

Deandre Ayton
59
32%
Luka Doncic
74
40%
Mohamed Bamba
4
2%
Marvin Bagley III
25
13%
Michael Porter Jr
20
11%
Other
4
2%
 
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1101 » by msiris » Tue May 15, 2018 1:04 pm

Need to start looking for a replacement for Middleton, Keita Bates-Diop looks good.
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Post#1102 » by msiris » Tue May 15, 2018 1:15 pm

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Gam wrote:I'm all in on Jontay Porter...
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call me insane, and feel free to dig this post up 3 years from now if it makes me look like a dumbass, but I'd have him 6th (Doncic, JJJ, Ayton, Trae, Bamba) on my board if I were the Bucks.

1) He's a stretch 5 who can really pass, has good hands, sets good screens, and boxes out. The exact archetype you want to pair with Giannis.

2) Has arguably a top 5 bbiq in this class, and easily the highest bbiq of a big man.

3) He's the 2nd youngest player in the draft class and age is the biggest predictor of over-preforming relative to draft position.

4) He's got the type of frame that should benefit tremendously from an NBA conditioning, and looks like it'll be able to put on muscle easily (aka not henson or thon).

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I'd love to see him pushing into the basket a bit more but it looks like he has some good footwork to get closer to the basket.

How is he on D and the boards?


I think he'll be an above average defender at the 5 eventually, probably sooner than later, and certainly should get played off the court with switches in the POs like some bigs do. Think Ersan, but with a lot more upside.

He doesn't project to be a great rebounder, mainly because he doesn't have great length or leaping ability, but he's got great hands and boxes out well. We don't need a great rebounder at the 5 with Giannis being an elite rebounder at the 4 IMO, and he'll certainly be better than either Thon or Henson on the boards.
This guy only shot 43% from the field for a big guy. Hardly dunks and spends a lot of time on the outside. No thanks.
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1103 » by Douggystyle29 » Tue May 15, 2018 1:15 pm

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Douggystyle29 wrote:I'm really starting to like Chimezi Metu from USC in the second round. If only we could buy a pick or something. I went back and watched more video of Zhaire Smith. His shot isn't that bad at all. He kicks out his shooting elbow a little bit but I think that is easily adjusted. Actually he seems to have a really nice high release. He has a beautiful 10-15 foot shot. All of his flaws are very correctable IMO. I know we badly need a big man that rebounds and plays defense but Smith is way too talented to pass up. If Smith is there at 17 you don't hesitate to pull the trigger. He is going to be as stud.


There are at least two teams with I think 4 second rounders this year. It will be a good year for buying them.
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1104 » by Baddy Chuck » Tue May 15, 2018 1:19 pm

msiris wrote:This guy only shot 43% from the field for a big guy. Hardly dunks and spends a lot of time on the outside. No thanks.

Sounds like Lauri Markkanen. I'd like Lauri Markkanen on this team.
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1105 » by msiris » Tue May 15, 2018 1:23 pm

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msiris wrote:This guy only shot 43% from the field for a big guy. Hardly dunks and spends a lot of time on the outside. No thanks.

Sounds like Lauri Markkanen. I'd like Lauri Markkanen on this team.
No he looks more like DJ Wilson
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Post#1106 » by msiris » Tue May 15, 2018 1:32 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:
msiris wrote:This guy only shot 43% from the field for a big guy. Hardly dunks and spends a lot of time on the outside. No thanks.

Sounds like Lauri Markkanen. I'd like Lauri Markkanen on this team.
Lauri shot better in college then this guy.
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Post#1107 » by BucksFanSD » Tue May 15, 2018 2:03 pm

The tweener risk with Jontay Porter is real. He isn't athletic and his wingspan is not as long as you would hope for a 5. If he ends up at 6'11 either now (Combine will tell us) or in the future (he's young and could still be growing) that will bump him up a lot for me, maybe even to my #1 of realistic players to draft. I do like the thought of having a Brad Miller next to Giannis.
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Post#1108 » by msiris » Tue May 15, 2018 2:08 pm

BucksFanSD wrote:The tweener risk with Jontay Porter is real. He isn't athletic and his wingspan is not as long as you would hope for a 5. If he ends up at 6'11 either now (Combine will tell us) or in the future (he could still be growing) that will bump him up a lot for me, maybe even to my #1 of realistic players to draft.
I am looking for guys who are productive in college. Our 1st round picks have been bad as of late. Too much reaching.
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Post#1109 » by BucksFanSD » Tue May 15, 2018 2:11 pm

msiris wrote:
BucksFanSD wrote:The tweener risk with Jontay Porter is real. He isn't athletic and his wingspan is not as long as you would hope for a 5. If he ends up at 6'11 either now (Combine will tell us) or in the future (he could still be growing) that will bump him up a lot for me, maybe even to my #1 of realistic players to draft.
I am looking for guys who are productive in college. Our 1st round picks have been bad as of late. Too much reaching.


Who are you looking at for pick #17?
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1110 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Tue May 15, 2018 2:47 pm

msiris wrote:Need to start looking for a replacement for Middleton, Keita Bates-Diop looks good.

i, somewhat irrationally, like him as well. he's kind of an ideal fit.
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1111 » by Gam » Tue May 15, 2018 3:25 pm

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Gam wrote:
Jez2983 wrote:
I'd love to see him pushing into the basket a bit more but it looks like he has some good footwork to get closer to the basket.

How is he on D and the boards?


I think he'll be an above average defender at the 5 eventually, probably sooner than later, and certainly should get played off the court with switches in the POs like some bigs do. Think Ersan, but with a lot more upside.

He doesn't project to be a great rebounder, mainly because he doesn't have great length or leaping ability, but he's got great hands and boxes out well. We don't need a great rebounder at the 5 with Giannis being an elite rebounder at the 4 IMO, and he'll certainly be better than either Thon or Henson on the boards.
This guy only shot 43% from the field for a big guy. Hardly dunks and spends a lot of time on the outside. No thanks.


How about instead of using a completely meaningless statistic in fg% (43.7%) you use the objectively superior eFG% (52.1%) or TS (56.7%).
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Post#1112 » by emunney » Tue May 15, 2018 3:34 pm

With Jontay, you have to appreciate that he reclassified and played his first game at Missouri at 17 years old. He'll be almost as young as Giannis was when we drafted him. At 6-11, 240, he produced at a high level for his minutes load in the SEC. For a non-elite prospect, I think he's as much of a sure thing as they come.
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Post#1113 » by Gam » Tue May 15, 2018 3:41 pm

emunney wrote:With Jontay, you have to appreciate that he reclassified and played his first game at Missouri at 17 years old. He'll be almost as young as Giannis was when we drafted him. At 6-11, 240, he produced at a high level for his minutes load in the SEC. For a non-elite prospect, I think he's as much of a sure thing as they come.


The comparisons to DJ are laughable when they play different positions, have totally different games, and Jontay will be 3 years and 9 months younger than DJ when they were drafted. When DJ was Jontay's age he was some 3 star HS player.
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Post#1114 » by machu46 » Tue May 15, 2018 3:52 pm

emunney wrote:With Jontay, you have to appreciate that he reclassified and played his first game at Missouri at 17 years old. He'll be almost as young as Giannis was when we drafted him. At 6-11, 240, he produced at a high level for his minutes load in the SEC. For a non-elite prospect, I think he's as much of a sure thing as they come.


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emunney wrote:With Jontay, you have to appreciate that he reclassified and played his first game at Missouri at 17 years old. He'll be almost as young as Giannis was when we drafted him. At 6-11, 240, he produced at a high level for his minutes load in the SEC. For a non-elite prospect, I think he's as much of a sure thing as they come.


The comparisons to DJ are laughable when they play different positions, have totally different games, and Jontay will be 3 years and 9 months younger than DJ when they were drafted. When DJ was Jontay's age he was some 3 star HS player.


I'm not sold on Jontay as an ideal pick for us, but I do agree with both of these posts. I still am hoping that Robert Williams slides to 17 and I'm still upset that we didn't take John Collins last year.
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1115 » by BuildingBucks » Tue May 15, 2018 4:04 pm

Jontay Porter reminds me of Drew Gooden, wouldn't be my first choice but we could do a lot worse at 17.
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Post#1116 » by Ron Swanson » Tue May 15, 2018 4:08 pm

Boris Diaw who's slightly better on defense, but slightly worse passer.
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Post#1117 » by leroyjw10 » Tue May 15, 2018 4:36 pm

Jontay's iffy measureables (height, length, athleticism) were initially a concern for me, but then I remembered that D.J. and Thon are tall, long and athletic ... and also horrible at most basketball skills. At this point, I want a big with actual useful basketball skills, which has somehow eluded this team for quite some time. Jontay has those skills.

I see Troy Murphy, in both good and bad ways. Southpaw with range and a surprising knack for rebounding, but also with better shot-blocking skills. At the same time, not overly athletic, a little soft and a potential liability on defense. Either way, I'd buy on Jontay.
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Post#1118 » by machu46 » Tue May 15, 2018 4:51 pm

Kind of a silly question, but where do people get wingspan measurements nowadays? Does the DX gang that moved to ESPN update it somewhere on ESPN's site or does another site gather that now? I keep seeing people reference Jontay's wingspan for example and I have no idea what his wingspan is expected to be.
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Post#1119 » by emunney » Tue May 15, 2018 5:23 pm

machu46 wrote:Kind of a silly question, but where do people get wingspan measurements nowadays? Does the DX gang that moved to ESPN update it somewhere on ESPN's site or does another site gather that now? I keep seeing people reference Jontay's wingspan for example and I have no idea what his wingspan is expected to be.


There's no official wingspan measurement on him yet, it'll depend on whether he's measured at the combine. They publish the anthropometric measurements on stats.nba.com now.

https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine-anthro/
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Post#1120 » by machu46 » Tue May 15, 2018 5:27 pm

emunney wrote:
machu46 wrote:Kind of a silly question, but where do people get wingspan measurements nowadays? Does the DX gang that moved to ESPN update it somewhere on ESPN's site or does another site gather that now? I keep seeing people reference Jontay's wingspan for example and I have no idea what his wingspan is expected to be.


There's no official wingspan measurement on him yet, it'll depend on whether he's measured at the combine. They publish the anthropometric measurements on stats.nba.com now.

https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine-anthro/


Okay, so people just assume by looking at Jontay that his wingspan isn't anything special? I miss the days of DX where they had all the measurements from the Nike Hoop Summit and whatnot.
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