Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread

[Spud2nique]

Wendell Carter would be worthy consolation prizes for us.

But Momma says...

Sumetin wrong with his medulla oblongata...

[kg01]

Is there a part of any of you that doesn’t want to be #1 as a Hawks fan? I just don’t want us to get it, screw it up, and people talk about it like cp3 for a decade or more.

I most certainly do. D Ayton is easily the most talented player this year...and maybe last.

But I don't trust him to lead a franchise. He reminds me of Embiid a bit, in that he has the talent, but not necessarily the mental toughness to be in the limelight.

Call it Michael Vick Syndrome.

And Luka is coming over with a target on his back -- and not for anything he's done.
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If we fall to #5 or later, I believe we can still get an elite player, the same way GSW was built on guys drafted later in the lottery.

MIkal Bridges and/or Wendell Carter would be worthy consolation prizes for us.

You lost me at 'Wendell Carter', bro.

[Jamaaliver]

Uggghhhh. So we're no player's best case scenario and several players worst landing spot?

This...is what rebuilds look like.

2018 NBA Draft: Best and Worst Landing Spots for Every Projected Lottery Pick

For these lottery prospects who are mostly teenagers, landing in spots where they can play to their strengths and have immediate roles is typically key.

Atlanta as Worst Landing Spots:

Michael Porter Jr. (Missouri, SF/PF, Freshman)

Hopefully for Porter's sake, the Hawks don't view him as the best player available. He wouldn't have much talent to play off, meaning he'd have to lean heavily on his own shot creativity. And based on what we saw in March, he looks far from being a player who can create quality looks for himself one-on-one in the half court.

And if he landed in Atlanta, he'd have to play the 4 with Collins at the 5, which would create a poor defensive pairing in the frontcourt.
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Wendell Carter Jr. (Duke, C, Freshman)

Atlanta isn't a place for any interior-oriented big-men prospects. While Carter could likely start at the 5, his fit alongside Collins, another paint-scorer and limited defender, doesn't sound ideal.

With Collins and Carter, the Hawks could suffer at both ends without spacing offensively or great defensive switchability.
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Marvin Bagley III (Duke, PF/C, Freshman)

The worst landing spot for Bagley is a coin toss between the Magic and Hawks. But at least in Orlando, he'd have the chance to pair with Jonathan Isaac or Aaron Gordon, who are better defenders. A Bagley-John Collins duo could be problematic.

Neither are rim protectors or perimeter defenders. And in Atlanta, where Dennis Schroder's fit and future remain uncertain, Bagley wouldn't have many veterans or playmakers to play off.





Atlanta isn't super attractive for Doncic, either, though John Collins, Taurean Prince and four top-33 picks should make it a more desirable situation.

Bleacher Report

[King Ken]

I really like 12 players in this lottery. After that, you have about 8 potential players. And about 6, could be good in the right system types. 10 wildcards who could be very good or be a bust.

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[macd-gm]

I know Bagley is tall but if he's going to be a star in the NBA isn't going to be at the 3? At the 4 isn't he just a weaker John Collins without the chance to really take advantage of his quickness and ball handling? I really don't know but i hate how it's all 4s and 5s in this draft.

[Jamaaliver]

I know Bagley is tall but if he's going to be a star in the NBA isn't going to be at the 3? At the 4 isn't he just a weaker John Collins without the chance to really take advantage of his quickness and ball handling? I really don't know but i hate how it's all 4s and 5s in this draft.

I've heard comps somewhere between young-Chris Bosh and not crazy-Michael Beasley.

I think he could get by as an undersized PF.

Add'l NOTE: He stated last Fall he's modeling his game after Giannis. so... CBS Sports

[King Ken]

I know Bagley is tall but if he's going to be a star in the NBA isn't going to be at the 3? At the 4 isn't he just a weaker John Collins without the chance to really take advantage of his quickness and ball handling? I really don't know but i hate how it's all 4s and 5s in this draft.

I've heard comps somewhere between young-Chris Bosh and not crazy-Michael Beasley.

I think he could get by as an undersized PF.

Hes an undersized center by size. Hes a well sized PF.

[Spud2nique]

Uggghhhh. So we're no player's best case scenario and several players worst landing spot?

This...is what rebuilds look like.

2018 NBA Draft: Best and Worst Landing Spots for Every Projected Lottery Pick

For these lottery prospects who are mostly teenagers, landing in spots where they can play to their strengths and have immediate roles is typically key.

Atlanta as Worst Landing Spots:

Michael Porter Jr. (Missouri, SF/PF, Freshman)

Hopefully for Porter's sake, the Hawks don't view him as the best player available. He wouldn't have much talent to play off, meaning he'd have to lean heavily on his own shot creativity. And based on what we saw in March, he looks far from being a player who can create quality looks for himself one-on-one in the half court.

And if he landed in Atlanta, he'd have to play the 4 with Collins at the 5, which would create a poor defensive pairing in the frontcourt.
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Wendell Carter Jr. (Duke, C, Freshman)

Atlanta isn't a place for any interior-oriented big-men prospects. While Carter could likely start at the 5, his fit alongside Collins, another paint-scorer and limited defender, doesn't sound ideal.

With Collins and Carter, the Hawks could suffer at both ends without spacing offensively or great defensive switchability.
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Marvin Bagley III (Duke, PF/C, Freshman)

The worst landing spot for Bagley is a coin toss between the Magic and Hawks. But at least in Orlando, he'd have the chance to pair with Jonathan Isaac or Aaron Gordon, who are better defenders. A Bagley-John Collins duo could be problematic.

Neither are rim protectors or perimeter defenders. And in Atlanta, where Dennis Schroder's fit and future remain uncertain, Bagley wouldn't have many veterans or playmakers to play off.





Atlanta isn't super attractive for Doncic, either, though John Collins, Taurean Prince and four top-33 picks should make it a more desirable situation.

Bleacher Report

Hmmm...kind of a pessimistic writer in my opinion. All those players would work in Atlanta. Sure, for example a guy like Porter wouldn’t look like the dominant player he has been in high school immediately but that’s gonna be true with any player with our super young roster.

I’m really torn here...a part of me wants to get the 1st pick to grab Ayton/Doncic but another part of me doesn’t mind getting in that 3-6 range and having a chance at Bagley, Bamba, Porter and Young.

[Jamaaliver]

Hmmm...kind of a pessimistic writer in my opinion. All those players would work in Atlanta. Sure, for example a guy like Porter wouldn’t look like the dominant player he has been in high school immediately but that’s gonna be true with any player with our super young roster.

I’m really torn here...a part of me wants to get the 1st pick to grab Ayton/Doncic but another part of me doesn’t mind getting in that 3-5 range and having a chance at Bagley, Porter and Young.

I normally like Wasserman's work.

I'm more disappointed he's basing their potential fit on a roster that will undoubtedly change in the coming seasons.

Makes me look at this article as simply click bait. Content to fill a quota before the Lottery.

[kg01]

Uggghhhh. So we're no player's best case scenario and several players worst landing spot?

This...is what rebuilds look like.

2018 NBA Draft: Best and Worst Landing Spots for Every Projected Lottery Pick

For these lottery prospects who are mostly teenagers, landing in spots where they can play to their strengths and have immediate roles is typically key.

Atlanta as Worst Landing Spots:

Michael Porter Jr. (Missouri, SF/PF, Freshman)

Hopefully for Porter's sake, the Hawks don't view him as the best player available. He wouldn't have much talent to play off, meaning he'd have to lean heavily on his own shot creativity. And based on what we saw in March, he looks far from being a player who can create quality looks for himself one-on-one in the half court.

And if he landed in Atlanta, he'd have to play the 4 with Collins at the 5, which would create a poor defensive pairing in the frontcourt.
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Wendell Carter Jr. (Duke, C, Freshman)

Atlanta isn't a place for any interior-oriented big-men prospects. While Carter could likely start at the 5, his fit alongside Collins, another paint-scorer and limited defender, doesn't sound ideal.

With Collins and Carter, the Hawks could suffer at both ends without spacing offensively or great defensive switchability.
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Marvin Bagley III (Duke, PF/C, Freshman)

The worst landing spot for Bagley is a coin toss between the Magic and Hawks. But at least in Orlando, he'd have the chance to pair with Jonathan Isaac or Aaron Gordon, who are better defenders. A Bagley-John Collins duo could be problematic.

Neither are rim protectors or perimeter defenders. And in Atlanta, where Dennis Schroder's fit and future remain uncertain, Bagley wouldn't have many veterans or playmakers to play off.


Atlanta isn't super attractive for Doncic, either, though John Collins, Taurean Prince and four top-33 picks should make it a more desirable situation.

Bleacher Report

Hmmm...kind of a pessimistic writer in my opinion. All those players would work in Atlanta. Sure, for example a guy like Porter wouldn’t look like the dominant player he has been in high school immediately but that’s gonna be true with any player with our super young roster.

I’m really torn here...a part of me wants to get the 1st pick to grab Ayton/Doncic but another part of me doesn’t mind getting in that 3-5 range and having a chance at Bagley, Porter and Young.

That's kinda where I'm at as well. With the notable exception being Carter who's ceiling is about as low as it can be, pretty much all the top guys could end up being really good.

There will be no whining from the kg corner if we end up outside the top 2. There are good players to be had regardless as long as we don't totally blow it by picking somebody like ... oh, I dunno ... Wendell Carter?

[tbhawksfan1]

Hawks are gonna be the butt of many a joke over the next couple seasons. If we're out of the top three and want up-side look at Porter, Bamba or Trae. Hawks don't need high floor, low ceiling now so Carter is not an option for our first pick.

[King Ken]

There is a great chance that Collins won't start next year.

[macd-gm]

There is a great chance that Collins won't start next year.

Who will? a draft pick or unnamed vet?

[tbhawksfan1]

Collins is a good piece, but there's very little chance he becomes a top 30 type. We need much better out of the next 2 /3 years for the rebuild to have a chance

[thr3ep01nte4]

3rd pick. It's not bad.

[macd-gm]

Jamie did pretty good. We could have gotten screwed.

Oh and SUCK IT Grizzilies. that's what you get for throwing games. It's one thing to play scrubs to lose. A whole nother thing to just not try at all.

[King Ken]

There is a great chance that Collins won't start next year.

Who will? a draft pick or unnamed vet?

Marvin Bagley III

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[LightTheBeam]

Congrats guys! Curious why Jami Gertz was at the lottery for you guys? I used to watch the show still standing and always thought she was hot but just seemed like a weird pick?

[kg01]

Congrats guys! Curious why Jami Gertz was at the lottery for you guys? I used to watch the show still standing and always thought she was hot but just seemed like a weird pick?

Married to our owner.