ECF: P2 | (2) Boston Celtics vs (4) Cleveland Cavaliers | Tied 2-2

[ITYSL]

LBJ with 42 points and Celtics still won comfortably.

He may have gone for 60 if it wasn't for the neck strain, to be honest.

[Stillwater]

Brown is not better than Smith, Rozier is not better than Hill, Morris is not better than Green or Nance.
I also think Tatum is over rated in this series.
Korver is a better shooter than anyone on their roster etc.
Baynes is not better than Thompson defensively.
Regardless of how you see it, the reality is the Cavs are much better than you are giving them credit and they have Lebron
which you don't have anyone close too.

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Ok. To to the cavs board and their game thread. Pistons fan starts it.

First post is Stillwater saying "getting a top 3 pick and our first win in the series"

Second post is also Stillwater saying "no top 3 pick, but no way we are losing this game or series"

Third and last post is also Stillwater saying "we played bad, GM will have a lot to do win or lose if it doesn't go to game 7."


LOLOLOLOLOL.

Yep Cavs have not matched your physicality at all in this series and deserve to lose if they don't step up and play to their capability.
Do I think they will continue the hard fouls like Smith did on Horford since they have mostly been called for ticky-tack one's that they might as well punish you for if they are getting called anyway at this point,yes I do. Unfortunately it is not the Cavs style and you will probably still win the series at this point so it's sad times in CLE. Laugh it up

[KHRICH]

I understand cedi cant score like jr can when hes hot but can he not provide SOMETHING? curious what cavs fans feel.

[Stillwater]

I understand cedi cant score like jr can when hes hot but can he not provide SOMETHING? curious what cavs fans feel.

Yep Lue has been an idiot so far in this series , Osman can match the Boston athleticism and energy and effect the game defensively, but since he is not capable of getting hot at the 2 spot Lue rolls with the guy who is back to reg season guy, apparently that switch he flipped got it's breaker pulled.

[Grahf]

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Ok. To to the cavs board and their game thread. Pistons fan starts it.

First post is Stillwater saying "getting a top 3 pick and our first win in the series"

Second post is also Stillwater saying "no top 3 pick, but no way we are losing this game or series"

Third and last post is also Stillwater saying "we played bad, GM will have a lot to do win or lose if it doesn't go to game 7."


LOLOLOLOLOL.

Yep Cavs have not matched your physicality at all in this series and deserve to lose if they don't step up and play to their capability.
Do I think they will continue the hard fouls like Smith did on Horford since they have mostly been called for ticky-tack one's that they might as well punish you for if they are getting called anyway at this point,yes I do. Unfortunately it is not the Cavs style and you will probably still win the series at this point so it's sad times in CLE. Laugh it up

Well… I admire your consistency. “We are losing because the refs are screwing us over” was the only logical follow-up to your previous posts.

[Stillwater]

Ok. To to the cavs board and their game thread. Pistons fan starts it.

First post is Stillwater saying "getting a top 3 pick and our first win in the series"

Second post is also Stillwater saying "no top 3 pick, but no way we are losing this game or series"

Third and last post is also Stillwater saying "we played bad, GM will have a lot to do win or lose if it doesn't go to game 7."


LOLOLOLOLOL.

Yep Cavs have not matched your physicality at all in this series and deserve to lose if they don't step up and play to their capability.
Do I think they will continue the hard fouls like Smith did on Horford since they have mostly been called for ticky-tack one's that they might as well punish you for if they are getting called anyway at this point,yes I do. Unfortunately it is not the Cavs style and you will probably still win the series at this point so it's sad times in CLE. Laugh it up

Well… I admire your consistency. “We are losing because the refs are screwing us over” was the only logical follow-up to your previous posts.

Refs are not screwing us over, we are not fouling hard enough and probably will start doing so or we might as well pack our bags for the Aruba coast

[amory87]

Basketball fans better hope this series keeps going the way it's going. Because if the Cavs end up making it to the finals, they'll be a LeBron-sized crater in the floor once the Dubs are done with them.

At least the Celtics might win a game.

[Gant]

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[Higgs Boston]

Brown the third youngest player to score 20 points o more in the first two games of the ECF, and the first player as a 21 years old or under to do 20+ points and 5+ rebounds in back-to-back games in the ECF.
Not bad for a 3&D role player.

[Birdie]

To any Cavs sympathizer or BOS hater, the "refs" had no outcome on CLE's crap play in these 1st 2 games. CLE IS SOFT. This is why IND "almost" took us out cuz they came in with a IDGAF attitude and Bogs/Thad/Lance/Collison/Dipo/Sabonis acted like pests/got physical with anyone they could to take them out their comfort zone.

This is why LBJ hates playing the 4 cuz he hates the constant having to battle for position or getting pushed around. Yea, LBJ had the physical tools to knock some heads but for the most part, he'd rather avoid that sort of play. As for the rest of the Cavs, THEY ARE BABY TISSUE S-O-F-T and no scheme change/strategy shift is gonna change the DNA of this team outside of trading everyone but LBJ or signing 14 new guys. Period.

BOS punched us in the mouth both games. Lue stupid for saying BOS "gooning" up the game? WTF? Just because our players are vagenes, doesn't mean BOS doing anything outside of the rulebook to give themselves a competitive advantage. If anything, this just goes to show Lue's lack of awareness and respect from his players to just play hard. The Cavs 2nd half is indicative that Lue had no pulse on the complete dumpster fire that it turned into where LBJ played rest mode defense, JR/Green/Hill weren't even checked into the game mentally where we couldn't even stop Marcus Smart on PnR and basically turned him into Russell Westbrook. Just downright pitiful.

And LBJ's passivity killed our offense in the second half and the fact we have no ball movement or think we're D'Antoni shoot in 5 sec or less once crossing halfcourt, we just had NO offensive flow in that 2nd half. It was just painful to watch. No backcuts, no motion, no 3-4-5 passes before trying to get a decent shot, no moving the defense. Ugh.

To be honest, this team this year was never championship material and even blitzing through TOR, it was almost fools gold cuz eye test can show, this Cavs team just has SERIOUS structural liabilities compared to HOU or GSW. But BOS proving, even with LBJ's talent outclassing anyone on BOS, they are def. proving, they "might" have just enough to get over the hump and sneak past at this moment. And for all involved, it might be just time for everyone to go their separate ways and let LBJ's circus play elsewhere at this point. I seriously think, for the end of LBJ's career, he'd be best ending his career with Pop and at least have the experience of being coached by a HOF coach that will demand LBJ to play within a system cuz I just have a feeling, any other team LBJ goes to, it's the same MO, give LBJ the ball, surround himself with shooters and hopefully those shooters you have, play defense to cover for LBJ's lazy defense cuz he old...at least that's how I'm reading the tealeaves...

And regardless of what happens, I HOPE we get rid of KLove this off-season. I'm just over his Charmin play at this point. Him stretching the floor on the offensive side is not worth 20mil to watch him be a turnstile/no will to protect the basket on defense.
Love for Lilliard, Love for Kemba, Love for PG13, Love for Milsap....somebody else please....lol

:rant over:

PS: I still got Cavs in 6 tho until I dont, lol...

[ISayshowmee]

Now, Lebron Fanboys please explain your statement that Lebron is a great facilitator.

Your hero has impressively scored in the 40's in several games in this year's playoffs. But but his teammates except for Love really have not made any impact in scoring.

So explain again why Lebron is a great facilitator ?

I brought this up because the Cavs are losing this series due to lack of scoring support outside of Lebron and Love. You know Kyrie used to fill this role.

Not like he's averaging 9.2 assists per game and 18.1 potential assists per game in the playoffs or anything

'Potential Assist' - What is this ? Another stat to prop up Lebron numbers ?

Bottom line --- Celts up 2-0, only 2 players have meaningful points.....rest of the Cavs are getting paid appearance fee only.

[Grahf]

Yep Cavs have not matched your physicality at all in this series and deserve to lose if they don't step up and play to their capability.
Do I think they will continue the hard fouls like Smith did on Horford since they have mostly been called for ticky-tack one's that they might as well punish you for if they are getting called anyway at this point,yes I do. Unfortunately it is not the Cavs style and you will probably still win the series at this point so it's sad times in CLE. Laugh it up

Well… I admire your consistency. “We are losing because the refs are screwing us over” was the only logical follow-up to your previous posts.

Refs are not screwing us over, we are not fouling hard enough and probably will start doing so or we might as well pack our bags for the Aruba coast

TBH I feel like this series is still a long way from over.

[jbk1234]

To any Cavs sympathizer or BOS hater, the "refs" had no outcome on CLE's crap play in these 1st 2 games. CLE IS SOFT. This is why IND "almost" took us out cuz they came in with a IDGAF attitude and Bogs/Thad/Lance/Collison/Dipo/Sabonis acted like pests/got physical with anyone they could to take them out their comfort zone.

This is why LBJ hates playing the 4 cuz he hates the constant having to battle for position or getting pushed around. Yea, LBJ had the physical tools to knock some heads but for the most part, he'd rather avoid that sort of play. As for the rest of the Cavs, THEY ARE BABY TISSUE S-O-F-T and no scheme change/strategy shift is gonna change the DNA of this team outside of trading everyone but LBJ or signing 14 new guys. Period.

BOS punched us in the mouth both games. Lue stupid for saying BOS "gooning" up the game? WTF? Just because our players are vagenes, doesn't mean BOS doing anything outside of the rulebook to give themselves a competitive advantage. If anything, this just goes to show Lue's lack of awareness and respect from his players to just play hard. The Cavs 2nd half is indicative that Lue had no pulse on the complete dumpster fire that it turned into where LBJ played rest mode defense, JR/Green/Hill weren't even checked into the game mentally where we couldn't even stop Marcus Smart on PnR and basically turned him into Russell Westbrook. Just downright pitiful.

And LBJ's passivity killed our offense in the second half and the fact we have no ball movement or think we're D'Antoni shoot in 5 sec or less once crossing halfcourt, we just had NO offensive flow in that 2nd half. It was just painful to watch. No backcuts, no motion, no 3-4-5 passes before trying to get a decent shot, no moving the defense. Ugh.

To be honest, this team this year was never championship material and even blitzing through TOR, it was almost fools gold cuz eye test can show, this Cavs team just has SERIOUS structural liabilities compared to HOU or GSW. But BOS proving, even with LBJ's talent outclassing anyone on BOS, they are def. proving, they "might" have just enough to get over the hump and sneak past at this moment. And for all involved, it might be just time for everyone to go their separate ways and let LBJ's circus play elsewhere at this point. I seriously think, for the end of LBJ's career, he'd be best ending his career with Pop and at least have the experience of being coached by a HOF coach that will demand LBJ to play within a system cuz I just have a feeling, any other team LBJ goes to, it's the same MO, give LBJ the ball, surround himself with shooters and hopefully those shooters you have, play defense to cover for LBJ's lazy defense cuz he old...at least that's how I'm reading the tealeaves...

And regardless of what happens, I HOPE we get rid of KLove this off-season. I'm just over his Charmin play at this point. Him stretching the floor on the offensive side is not worth 20mil to watch him be a turnstile/no will to protect the basket on defense.
Love for Lilliard, Love for Kemba, Love for PG13, Love for Milsap....somebody else please....lol

:rant over:

PS: I still got Cavs in 6 tho until I dont, lol...

Honestly, I don't think the officiating had much to do with it either (until the 4th quarter when the Celtics were living at the line off of some pretty ticky tack fouls). Most of it is Lue just leaving his 30-and-older league starters out there too long against waves of younger, more athletic and more rested Celtics players.

Players, especially older players, can go at full tilt for between 6-8 minutes in a row. Lue can go to his bench earlier and more often in the game, or the Cavs are going to lose some plays just because the starters are exhausted out there. Just like the Pacers tried to take Love out of that series, the Celtics are throwing Rozier, Brown and Smart at a 32-year old G. Hill with full court pressure. Lue left him in for the entire first half. You just can't do that.

Lue has never been good at staying ahead of that curve when it comes to substitutions. He usually waits until his guys are obviously gassed and giving up a run. Cavs are going to have to take some chances with their bench guys this series or they won't be able to hold a lead.

[jbk1234]

double post

[ISayshowmee]

Well… I admire your consistency. “We are losing because the refs are screwing us over” was the only logical follow-up to your previous posts.

Refs are not screwing us over, we are not fouling hard enough and probably will start doing so or we might as well pack our bags for the Aruba coast

TBH I feel like this series is still a long way from over.

Agree....Game 3, but Lebrom might need to score 50+ points based on performances of his so called teammates.

[nimbushield]

I'm probably gonna get snapped back to reality pretty soon but I still have cavs in 7

[Darth Celtic]

Yep Cavs have not matched your physicality at all in this series and deserve to lose if they don't step up and play to their capability.
Do I think they will continue the hard fouls like Smith did on Horford since they have mostly been called for ticky-tack one's that they might as well punish you for if they are getting called anyway at this point,yes I do. Unfortunately it is not the Cavs style and you will probably still win the series at this point so it's sad times in CLE. Laugh it up

Well… I admire your consistency. “We are losing because the refs are screwing us over” was the only logical follow-up to your previous posts.

Refs are not screwing us over, we are not fouling hard enough and probably will start doing so or we might as well pack our bags for the Aruba coast

I don't like trolling a fan base, so I really hope nothing I say offends Cavs fans. Just like Superdario from last series, if you say stupid crap, i'm going to follow you around and call you on it till you recant.

So, Smith > Brown, Hill >Rozier and all the other really, really, really terrible takes you had in the first game thread. Do you admit it was way, way, way, way wrong, or are you going to double down on the stupid take? Let us know so we can move on. The first thing to learn on Realgm is to learn how to admit your opinion turned out wrong.

[Darth Celtic]

I'm probably gonna get snapped back to reality pretty soon but I still have cavs in 7

Many do, not like it's a hot take or something. Until Lebron takes 4 losses, it's not over.

[AK47MVP]

I'm probably gonna get snapped back to reality pretty soon but I still have cavs in 7

What reasons to believe that you saw in first two games?

[Birdie]

Well… I admire your consistency. “We are losing because the refs are screwing us over” was the only logical follow-up to your previous posts.

Refs are not screwing us over, we are not fouling hard enough and probably will start doing so or we might as well pack our bags for the Aruba coast

I don't like trolling a fan base, so I really hope nothing I say offends Cavs fans. Just like Superdario from last series, if you say stupid crap, i'm going to follow you around and call you on it till you recant.

So, Smith > Brown, Hill >Rozier and all the other really, really, really terrible takes you had in the first game thread. Do you admit it was way, way, way, way wrong, or are you going to double down on the stupid take? Let us know so we can move on. The first thing to learn on Realgm is to learn how to admit your opinion turned out wrong.

Sorry but Cavs fan or not, whoever saying that or had said that or agrees with that sentiment before this series started of Smith > Brown, Hill > Rozier, ummm, that person or persons should be rightfully punched in the face for even thinking that. lmao.

JR has not been the same since '16 after he cashed in. Now, for a minute there, a leg injury contributed to that poor play in '17 but his shooting has been even more erratic than the previous 2 years. And while JR, at times, has shown maximum effort or hustle, he follows that up with plays like last night unnecessarily putting Horford in a dangerous position with that push (which should be upgraded to Flagrant 2 and possible 1 game suspension imo) cuz he was frustrated with how the game was going. And the fact Lue left him in knowing things weren't going CLE's way, just shows how clueless Lue was to the situation.

As for Rozier, I just laugh at the Hill > Rozier. I'm SOOOOOO salty Cavs did not ask for him with Kyrie trade. At the very least, I'd of been happy with Rozier as backup and #8 pick at the very least for getting takin to the cleaners by Ainge at this moment. Though, the true test of that deal is "if" Kyrie's health holds up going forward which at this point, seems 50/50 as to who "wins" the trade longterm.

We traded the wrong player last summer. PG13 should be on our team and not Love. But would, coulda, shoulda. I just hope, Hill, at the very least, gets his head out his butt and actually plays like the 20mil guy he's getting paid to be. His 4th quarter defense was beyond horrendous and it just looked like he didn't care. I think JVG brought up the point, when things go bad for the Cavs, they're the #1 team in eyerolls against each other and poor body language. This is where LBJ is at fault AND Lue for allowing that BS to even fester/infect. This is where I feel like LBJ just gets a pass from the national media cuz he "had" 40 and a triple double but gloss over the fact, LBJ not holding/"leading" his other teammates to put them in positions to succeed. And it's on Lue to key in on who is playing bad and who "can" play good or give something productive. Some of the shots Green/JR jacked up just makes you cringe as to how did this Cavs team even make it to the ECF? smh...