Travis Schlenk trying to build Hawks in Warrior’s image (aka 2018 offseason thread)
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Schlenk continues this BS and he’s gonna find himself on the hot seat reeeal soon. He even said that when he got the job...that is probably wasn’t going to last.
If Schlenk fumbles this draft, he should have a very very short leash. I’m afraid he’s not as smart as people think.
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If Schlenk fumbles this draft, he should have a very very short leash. I’m afraid he’s not as smart as people think.
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I've been a Hawks fan since early seventies. Seen a bunch of owners/GMs/coaches come and go. I have no devotion until they earn it. Anyone can strip a team down. That's no accomplishment.
I'm not taking an anti TS position, I'm taking an anti people who show unwavering commitment to hierarchy and shoot down any rational analysis that doesn't fit their hierarchial agenda.
I'm not taking an anti TS position, I'm taking an anti people who show unwavering commitment to hierarchy and shoot down any rational analysis that doesn't fit their hierarchial agenda.
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tbhawksfan1 wrote:I've been a Hawks fan since early seventies. Seen a bunch of owners/GMs/coaches come and go. I have no devotion until they earn it. Anyone can strip a team down. That's no accomplishment.
I'm not taking an anti TS position, I'm taking an anti people who show unwavering commitment to hierarchy and shoot down any rational analysis that doesn't fit their hierarchial agenda.
Beautiful post and I agree with this message.
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This is encouraging to hear from a young guy regarding the new coach. And I do think LP can have a seriously positive effect on D Bembry.
Is Bembry a poor, poor....poor, poor version of Ben Simmons?
They have the same flaws and strengths, right?
Is Bembry a poor, poor....poor, poor version of Ben Simmons?
They have the same flaws and strengths, right?
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Jamaaliver wrote:This is encouraging to hear from a young guy regarding the new coach. And I do think LP can have a seriously positive effect on D Bembry.
Is Bembry a poor, poor....poor, poor version of Ben Simmons?
They have the same flaws and strengths, right?
This seems a weird way to phrase it. Bembry was in college in Philly while LP was coaching the sixers? Is that what this means?
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macd-gm wrote:This seems a weird way to phrase it. Bembry was in college in Philly while LP was coaching the sixers? Is that what this means?
LOL
Yes. It is. I smell some potential NCAA violations.
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Re: Travis Schlenk trying to build Hawks in Warrior’s image (aka 2018 offseason thread)
Anytime a team hires a new coach marks a significant moment. We would, however, be less than forthright if we didn’t emphasize that Pierce’s introduction Monday will be only the second-biggest Hawks news of these 48 hours. What transpires in Tuesday’s draft lottery will have a greater impact on everything that happens next.
Said Hawks general manager Travis Schlenk: “Our plan hasn’t changed. We’re going to try to continue to develop our young players. We’re going to maintain our financial flexibility. We’re going to continue to accumulate assets. Our plan hasn’t changed. We just have a new coach.”
Said Schlenk: “You can’t skip steps in the process, not to use their word. We have our plan.”
Asked how it was to work within Philly’s Process, Pierce said: “There was the outside perception, and there was the internal reality. Our job as coaches was to develop the players on our roster.”
Landing a coach versed in The Process and on board with the plan -- unlike grumpy Mike Budenholzer, now gone with the wind -- is a deft move, and Pierce is an impressive guy. But he’s in for a lot of losing no matter how the ping-pong balls fall Tuesday. He knows that. Still, as he told Schlenk in their first interview at the Philly Airport Marriott: “Good days add up.”
Monday was a good day for a team coming off a lousy-by-design season. If Tuesday night works out, the number of bad days this plan/process will require could be trimmed by several hundred.
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Bleacher ReportSGs Most Likely to Be Traded During 2018 NBA Offseason
Kent Bazemore, Atlanta Hawks
With his 29th birthday on the horizon (July 1), Kent Bazemore doesn't come close to fitting the Hawks' timeline. But while the final two years and $37.4 million left on his deal are far from immovable, the team is more concerned with renting out cap space in exchange for picks and prospects.
Unless he's being dealt as part of massive, Evan Turner-sized salary absorption, the Hawks would be better off waiting for February's trade deadline or next summer before exploring his market.
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Hate catch phrases. how many times am I goona hear good days add up.... while counting the losses. Hey, I'm all for another top pick next year, just no catch phrases
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Re: Travis Schlenk trying to build Hawks in Warrior’s image (aka 2018 offseason thread)
myAJCHawks own third pick in draft and GM Schlenk says he’s likely to keep it
“If somebody wants to make us a great offer, we will listen” Schlenk said following the unveiling of the draft order. “Right now, we are happy to pick three and we know we are going to get a good player.”
“We were four before so it’s not really changing,” Schlenk said. “We kind of focused on eight guys we had picked for this if we were going to be in top seven. Now we kind of focus in on obviously on guys we can get at No. 3.”
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If, as the heading indicates, we are now going to be the Warriors east instead of the Spurs east, there is a
guard on the Warriors that is a really, really good scorer. There is a guard in this year's draft that mirrors him.
He is expected to go in the top eight.
Will he become a Hawk? Don't act so shocked. It could happen. Hawks could move around, get an extra pick
and still manage to grab him. Or, we might package two picks later in the draft to grab him. The NBA has evolved
into a three point mecca. If you can't score from downtown at a good pace, it has become harder and harder to
win. Check out the Cavs right now. They are not burning the nets with the three ball, as has been their habit,
and Boston is having their way with them.
Hawks have four draft picks in the first round and very high in the second. Do we really want four new rookies?
If so, who will we retain from our ending roster from last season? and, what about our trading and the free agency
period? Finally, what about those teams wanting to dump salary thru us for future draft picks?
Any ideas??
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graymule wrote::wink:
If, as the heading indicates, we are now going to be the Warriors east instead of the Spurs east, there is a
guard on the Warriors that is a really, really good scorer. There is a guard in this year's draft that mirrors him.
He is expected to go in the top eight.
Will he become a Hawk? Don't act so shocked. It could happen. Hawks could move around, get an extra pick
and still manage to grab him. Or, we might package two picks later in the draft to grab him. The NBA has evolved
into a three point mecca. If you can't score from downtown at a good pace, it has become harder and harder to
win. Check out the Cavs right now. They are not burning the nets with the three ball, as has been their habit,
and Boston is having their way with them.
Hawks have four draft picks in the first round and very high in the second. Do we really want four new rookies?
If so, who will we retain from our ending roster from last season? and, what about our trading and the free agency
period? Finally, what about those teams wanting to dump salary thru us for future draft picks?
Any ideas??
I don't think we'll have 4 new rookies. Ideally combine picks to move up. 2nd round pick if we keep it might ne a draft and stash. I think we have 2 players on teo way GL contracts already.
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Bleacher ReportNBA Starting Lineups in Need of a Change This Offseason
Atlanta Hawks
2018-19 Projected Starting 5: Dennis Schroder, Kent Bazemore, Taurean Prince, John Collins, Dewayne Dedmon (player option)
2017-18 Net Rating: +8.6 (245 possessions)
Breaking up a group that found some success during a fair amount of time together would typically be taboo. But the Atlanta Hawks are in the infancy of a rebuild and have only two sure-thing mainstays in this lineup: John Collins and Taurean Prince.
At least one of Kent Bazemore and Dewayne Dedmon will be displaced from this unit by next season. Both turn 29 this summer and no longer align with the team's long-term trajectory. Bazemore could be shown the door if Atlanta finds a taker for the two years and $37.4 million left on his contract. Dedmon's $6.3 million player option affords him control over his own fate.
Even if both come back, inbound draft picks will take priority over one of them. The Hawks have three first-round selections, including the No. 3 choice. Bazemore's job is in jeopardy if Luka Doncic falls to them. Dedmon is at risk of receding to back-up duty if they pair Collins with another frontcourt partner—Marvin Bagley III, Jaren Jackson Jr., Mohamed Bamba, etc.
Dennis Schroder's days in Atlanta also appear to be numbered—or so says the man himself. He told reporters at a press conference in Germany he could envision being traded to the Indiana Pacers or Milwaukee Bucks, per international basketball reporter David Hein.
Moving Schroder won't be easy. Starting point guard vacancies are few and far between, and suitors must talk themselves into paying $46.5 million over the next three years for someone who doesn't rank in the top 20 at his position.
Still, Schroder doesn't turn 25 until September. A team or two could be willing to bet on untapped potential—especially if the Hawks aren't asking for much. And they won't be.
Replacing him won't be difficult. They have mountains of cap space to work with and could draft a point guard with one of their two post-lottery selections. And heck, they don't even need to move Schroder. If they are unafraid to ruffle his feathers, they could relegate him to the second unit until they find him a new home.
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Based on the talent in this year’s draft, it seems we will have to go through this a couple more times.
Is our #3 going to be a franchise player for the next 12 years? Not seeing Bagley or Jackson being that type of talent.
Is our #3 going to be a franchise player for the next 12 years? Not seeing Bagley or Jackson being that type of talent.
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One of my favorite NBA Podcasts focuses on our offseason and one of our draft targets:
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It's relevant in multiple threads.
Travis is clearly still in asset acquisition mode:
Travis is clearly still in asset acquisition mode:
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Wendell Carter, Wendell Carter!!!!
Bleacher ReportEvery NBA Team's Weakest Link Heading into the Draft and Free Agency
Atlanta Hawks: Frontcourt Running Mate for John Collins
John Collins is not completely alone in the Atlanta Hawks' frontcourt, per se.
Dewayne Dedmon and Mike Muscala could both be back in town if they pick up their player options. Rumor has it Miles Plumlee is a real, live person paid tens of millions of dollars to sometimes play basketball, too.
None of them are viable long-term partners in crime for the soon-to-be 21-year-old Collins. Dedmon is by far the best of the trio—he shoots threes now!—but he turns 29 in August.
Using Taurean Prince at the 4 with Collins at the 5 carries a certain yippee-ki-yay appeal in small doses. The former closed the season on a post-January hot streak, but he remains a tad overmatched against bigger wings—particularly with Collins as the primary line of defense behind him.
Atlanta allowed 119.3 points per 100 possessions whenever Prince and Collins populated the frontcourt by themselves, according to Cleaning The Glass. It'll take some time for that number to deflate, if it ever does.
Adding someone more interchangeable with Collins is paramount. At 6'10" with an in-progress frame, the center burden shouldn't fall entirely on him.
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