NBA DRAFT COMBINE DISCUSSION

yoyojw17 · Post #1 » by **yoyojw17** » Wed May 16, 2018 4:00 pm

I figured we should have a place that we can discuss and consolidate all the information that will be coming out over the next 5 days or so! :-)

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cedric76 · Post #2 » by **cedric76** » Wed May 16, 2018 4:52 pm

Trae s measurement will be very interesting too.

If Bamba or JJJ r not there at #6 We should trade for fultz

MagicFan101 · Post #3 » by **MagicFan101** » Wed May 16, 2018 4:59 pm

cedric76 wrote:Trae s measurement will be very interesting too.

If Bamba or JJJ r not there at #6 We should trade for fultz

Philly has no long term commitments beyond Embiid and Convington. They don’t need our expiring deals. So what do we have to offer them with the #6 pick?

A straight up deal isn’t enough.

yoyojw17 · Post #4 » by **yoyojw17** » Wed May 16, 2018 5:11 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Trae s measurement will be very interesting too.

If Bamba or JJJ r not there at #6 We should trade for fultz

Philly has no long term commitments beyond Embiid and Convington. They don’t need our expiring deals. So what do we have to offer them with the #6 pick?

A straight up deal isn’t enough.

Evan fournier as a sweetner.

lol... and that wasn't a joke.

cedric76 · Post #5 » by **cedric76** » Wed May 16, 2018 5:19 pm

yoyojw17 wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Trae s measurement will be very interesting too.

If Bamba or JJJ r not there at #6 We should trade for fultz

Philly has no long term commitments beyond Embiid and Convington. They don’t need our expiring deals. So what do we have to offer them with the #6 pick?

A straight up deal isn’t enough.

Evan fournier as a sweetner.

lol... and that wasn't a joke.

Go and check the 76ers board

They would do #6 for fultz in heartbeat (they were even offering extra pick)

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1585142&start=1260

Fultz, Bayless, Anderson, 2019 PHI First
To Philadelphia: #6,Mack (non guaranteed)

MagicFan101 · Post #6 » by **MagicFan101** » Wed May 16, 2018 5:21 pm

cedric76 wrote:
yoyojw17 wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
Philly has no long term commitments beyond Embiid and Convington. They don’t need our expiring deals. So what do we have to offer them with the #6 pick?

A straight up deal isn’t enough.

Evan fournier as a sweetner.

lol... and that wasn't a joke.

Go and check the 76ers board

They would do #6 for fultz in heartbeat (they were even offering extra pick)

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1585142&start=1260

Fultz, Bayless, Anderson, 2019 PHI First
To Philadelphia: #6,Mack (non guaranteed)

It’s Philly. Their fans are idiots. That doesn’t mean management is.

p0peye · Post #7 » by **p0peye** » Wed May 16, 2018 5:24 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
yoyojw17 wrote:Evan fournier as a sweetner.

lol... and that wasn't a joke.

Go and check the 76ers board

They would do #6 for fultz in heartbeat (they were even offering extra pick)

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1585142&start=1260

Fultz, Bayless, Anderson, 2019 PHI First
To Philadelphia: #6,Mack (non guaranteed)

It’s Philly. Their fans are idiots. That doesn’t mean management is.

It's Bryan Colangelo we're talking about.

NotACat · Post #8 » by **NotACat** » Wed May 16, 2018 5:26 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
yoyojw17 wrote:Evan fournier as a sweetner.

lol... and that wasn't a joke.

Go and check the 76ers board

They would do #6 for fultz in heartbeat (they were even offering extra pick)

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1585142&start=1260

Fultz, Bayless, Anderson, 2019 PHI First
To Philadelphia: #6,Mack (non guaranteed)

It’s Philly. Their fans are idiots. That doesn’t mean management is.

Their new management isn't the greatest, can look at the trade they did last year with Boston for evidence.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #9 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Wed May 16, 2018 5:31 pm

NotACat wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
Go and check the 76ers board

They would do #6 for fultz in heartbeat (they were even offering extra pick)

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1585142&start=1260

Fultz, Bayless, Anderson, 2019 PHI First
To Philadelphia: #6,Mack (non guaranteed)

It’s Philly. Their fans are idiots. That doesn’t mean management is.

Their new management isn't the greatest, can look at the trade they did last year with Boston for evidence.

Yeah but step out of the vacuum and look at the big picture.

They traded up for Fultz at #1. Do you really think they would trade him for #6 in what will probably end up being a lesser draft? Maybe if they got word getting Trae would mean Bron signs.. but I just don’t see it happening nor is it really worth talking about.

MagicFan101 · Post #10 » by **MagicFan101** » Wed May 16, 2018 5:33 pm

OrlChamps2030 wrote:
NotACat wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
It’s Philly. Their fans are idiots. That doesn’t mean management is.

Their new management isn't the greatest, can look at the trade they did last year with Boston for evidence.

Yeah but step out of the vacuum and look at the big picture.

They traded up for Fultz at #1. Do you really think they would trade him for #6 in what will probably end up being a lesser draft? Maybe if they got word getting Trae would mean Bron signs.. but I just don’t see it happening nor is it really worth talking about.

I’m stil high on Fultz. In one game he still showed us why he was #1. If he can stay healthy he has “it.”

I can see them taking Bridges to pair with him for a really nice backcourt.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #11 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Wed May 16, 2018 5:35 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
OrlChamps2030 wrote:
NotACat wrote:Their new management isn't the greatest, can look at the trade they did last year with Boston for evidence.

Yeah but step out of the vacuum and look at the big picture.

They traded up for Fultz at #1. Do you really think they would trade him for #6 in what will probably end up being a lesser draft? Maybe if they got word getting Trae would mean Bron signs.. but I just don’t see it happening nor is it really worth talking about.

I’m stil high on Fultz. In one game he still showed us why he was #1. If he can stay healthy he has “it.”

I can see them taking Bridges to pair with him for a really nice backcourt.

I still really like Fultz too.

Don’t see anyone at 6 Who would be worth giving up on him for. Like you said too, Bridges would be a dream fit on that team, especially next to Fultz

NotACat · Post #12 » by **NotACat** » Wed May 16, 2018 6:14 pm

OrlChamps2030 wrote:
NotACat wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
It’s Philly. Their fans are idiots. That doesn’t mean management is.

Their new management isn't the greatest, can look at the trade they did last year with Boston for evidence.

Yeah but step out of the vacuum and look at the big picture.

They traded up for Fultz at #1. Do you really think they would trade him for #6 in what will probably end up being a lesser draft? Maybe if they got word getting Trae would mean Bron signs.. but I just don’t see it happening nor is it really worth talking about.

I know they gave up a lot for him, but if I'm a manager, I need to avoid the suck cost fallacy. The reality of the situation (if I'm the Sixers FO) is that Fultz is not the prospect we thought he was going to be because of his (lack of) shooting. This is doubly bad because Simmons shoots even worse, but is much better and you can't have them on the floor at the same with great results. They have the opportunity to be a contending team for the next 5+ seasons, but you need one more piece.

If I were them, I would trade Fultz + 26 (as a Magic fan, I would hope for Fultz+10 for 6+35) for #6 because they could get someone like Mikal who fits perfectly right now, and has lots of room to grow. I don't think Chicago or Cleavland would do a similar trade and the Knicks are more likely to covet Mikal rather than Fultz at that point.

MagicFan101 · Post #13 » by **MagicFan101** » Wed May 16, 2018 6:18 pm

NotACat wrote:
OrlChamps2030 wrote:
NotACat wrote:Their new management isn't the greatest, can look at the trade they did last year with Boston for evidence.

Yeah but step out of the vacuum and look at the big picture.

They traded up for Fultz at #1. Do you really think they would trade him for #6 in what will probably end up being a lesser draft? Maybe if they got word getting Trae would mean Bron signs.. but I just don’t see it happening nor is it really worth talking about.

I know they gave up a lot for him, but if I'm a manager, I need to avoid the suck cost fallacy. The reality of the situation (if I'm the Sixers FO) is that Fultz is not the prospect we thought he was going to be because of his (lack of) shooting. This is doubly bad because Simmons shoots even worse, but is much better and you can't have them on the floor at the same with great results. They have the opportunity to be a contending team for the next 5+ seasons, but you need one more piece.

If I were them, I would trade Fultz + 26 (as a Magic fan, I would hope for Fultz+10 for 6+35) for #6 because they could get someone like Mikal who fits perfectly right now, and has lots of room to grow. I don't think Chicago or Cleavland would do a similar trade and the Knicks are more likely to covet Mikal rather than Fultz at that point.

Go watch the 76ers-Bucks game at the end of the season. Watch the entire game, not highlights.

I don’t even care about his triple double or any of the stats. I’m saying look at how he moves and how well he is setting up the half court offense.

... as a TEENAGER.

No chance in hell are the 76ers giving up on that kid already.

KillMonger · Post #14 » by **KillMonger** » Wed May 16, 2018 6:41 pm

when is the combine?

cedric76 · Post #15 » by **cedric76** » Wed May 16, 2018 6:52 pm

Fultz doesn't fit with Simmons, this is why they want to move him.

Trading him for #6 save them money too, we would also take bayless (for Mack partially guaranteed contract )

Fultz would be prefect next to Evan, isaac and AG

NotACat · Post #16 » by **NotACat** » Wed May 16, 2018 7:00 pm

cedric76 wrote:Fultz doesn't fit with Simmons, this is why they want to move him.

Trading him for #6 save them money too, we would also take bayless (for Mack partially guaranteed contract )

Fultz would be prefect next to Evan, isaac and AG

My ideal scenario as well. He's going to be a solid player, but he's not what the Sixers need and can find someone of near equal talent but a better fit with our pick.

Cammo101 · Post #17 » by **Cammo101** » Wed May 16, 2018 7:20 pm

No freaking way we should be trading something as valuable at the #6 pick for Fultz after what happened last year. Just too risky.

OrlandO · Post #18 » by **OrlandO** » Wed May 16, 2018 8:06 pm

Solid Snake wrote:when is the combine?

Wednesday through Sunday.

nymets1 · Post #19 » by **nymets1** » Thu May 17, 2018 1:16 am

MagicFan101 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Trae s measurement will be very interesting too.

If Bamba or JJJ r not there at #6 We should trade for fultz

Philly has no long term commitments beyond Embiid and Convington. They don’t need our expiring deals. So what do we have to offer them with the #6 pick?

A straight up deal isn’t enough.

Philly isn't committed long term to Ben Simmons? The Magic should try to get him if there's a chance.

MagicFan101 · Post #20 » by **MagicFan101** » Thu May 17, 2018 1:58 am

nymets1 wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Trae s measurement will be very interesting too.

If Bamba or JJJ r not there at #6 We should trade for fultz

Philly has no long term commitments beyond Embiid and Convington. They don’t need our expiring deals. So what do we have to offer them with the #6 pick?

A straight up deal isn’t enough.

Philly isn't committed long term to Ben Simmons? The Magic should try to get him if there's a chance.

Ben Simmons has only 1 year left on his deal.

I mean not committed long term financially.