2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc)

[the_process]

Hey Philly,

Any interest in trading your 10th pick? What would you be wanting to get in return? I'm trying to see how I can get the Magic a 2nd pick in the lotto.

Umm...no one here actually makes any
decisions...what is this?

Why the hard time? This is still called RealGM, right? People do like to do fake trades and pretend to build their team’s rosters.

[the_process]

Hey Philly,

Any interest in trading your 10th pick? What would you be wanting to get in return? I'm trying to see how I can get the Magic a 2nd pick in the lotto.

There’s a fantasy trade thread on this board where you would be more likely to get answers.

But since I’m here... unless the Magic want to fork over Johnny Isaac, which I doubt, can’t see what else you guys have that would be interesting. And speaking of interesting, wondering if your PGOTF should be named Markelle Fultz?

[JojoSlimbiid]

Hey Philly,

Any interest in trading your 10th pick? What would you be wanting to get in return? I'm trying to see how I can get the Magic a 2nd pick in the lotto.

Umm...no one here actually makes any
decisions...what is this?

Why the hard time? This is still called RealGM, right? People do like to do fake trades and pretend to build their team’s rosters.

Yeah that much is obvious being here for almost 2 years. Still think it's silly as hell.

[the_process]

Umm...no one here actually makes any
decisions...what is this?

Why the hard time? This is still called RealGM, right? People do like to do fake trades and pretend to build their team’s rosters.

Yeah that much is obvious being here for almost 2 years. Still think it's silly as hell.

Team building is most interesting thing about sports in general, IMO. But to each his own.

[Sixers2125]

I think JJJ is the best player in this draft followed Doncic. I think Ayton will put up great numbers but he'll never be on a championship contending team due to his defense.

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[nrok10307]

Hey Philly,

Any interest in trading your 10th pick? What would you be wanting to get in return? I'm trying to see how I can get the Magic a 2nd pick in the lotto.

What about the #10 for ORL top 5 protected pick next year?

[Nyce_1]

Hey Philly,

Any interest in trading your 10th pick? What would you be wanting to get in return? I'm trying to see how I can get the Magic a 2nd pick in the lotto.

What about the #10 for ORL top 5 protected pick next year?

if the draft shakes out how I hope, I'd be ok with that to get the player I want.

Mack & 2019 pick for 2018 #10 + salary dump? Figure I try to help you guys clear some cap if needed?

[hookshot199]

Hey Philly,

Any interest in trading your 10th pick? What would you be wanting to get in return? I'm trying to see how I can get the Magic a 2nd pick in the lotto.

What about the #10 for ORL top 5 protected pick next year?

if the draft shakes out how I hope, I'd be ok with that to get the player I want.

Mack & 2019 pick for 2018 #10 + salary dump? Figure I try to help you guys clear some cap if needed?

For the sake of discussion: If we're in the market for Kawhi Leonard (and have a commitment from him to stay in Philly), then #10 is one of two big trading chips, the other probably being Saric.

Embiid and Simmons are untouchable. Fultz is probably untouchable - and probably should be.

As for freeing up salary cap: I've got our payroll down to $70 mil including (including my estimates for #10 and #26 cap holds and an estimated "stretch" of Bayless's $8.6 mil final year in a buyout.

If my calculations are right, that means we'd have $30 mil for LeBron. Ideally, we should be able to offer him - and he may require - $35.4 mil assuming the cap doesn't go up which would be advantageous for Philly.

Will LeBron force Colangelo to dump prospects/possible key role players like Justin Anderson to have a shot at another ring? We'll see.

I would hope not, however, because, after all, he's reportedly worth $400 mil. At some point, is an extra $20 mil to a four-year $120 mil contract - on top of his $400 mil reported wealth - going to enhance his legacy?

So to answer your original question for the sake of argument: We will get a good player at #10 and probably #26. At present, Mikal Bridges is projected at #10 on nbadraft.net. He's sound fundamentally. Whether he's quick enough and athletic enough to defend Brown or Tatum would be my litmus test.

At #26, DiVincenzo, Spellman and Brunson, three Villanova standouts may still be on the board. We clearly need a player like TJ McConnell who can shoot from the 3-point line. That could be Brunson.

But I would never trade this year's #10 pick for a protected #5 pick in next year's draft. Almost by definition Orlando will be better and the draft, according to many reports, will be weaker.

Over and out.

[the_process]

What about the #10 for ORL top 5 protected pick next year?

if the draft shakes out how I hope, I'd be ok with that to get the player I want.

Mack & 2019 pick for 2018 #10 + salary dump? Figure I try to help you guys clear some cap if needed?

For the sake of discussion: If we're in the market for Kawhi Leonard (and have a commitment from him to stay in Philly), then #10 is one of two big trading chips, the other probably being Saric.

Embiid and Simmons are untouchable. Fultz is probably untouchable - and probably should be.

As for freeing up salary cap: I've got our payroll down to $70 mil including (including my estimates for #10 and #26 cap holds and an estimated "stretch" of Bayless's $8.6 mil final year in a buyout.

If my calculations are right, that means we'd have $30 mil for LeBron. Ideally, we should be able to offer him - and he may require - $35.4 mil assuming the cap doesn't go up which would be advantageous for Philly.

Will LeBron force Colangelo to dump prospects/possible key role players like Justin Anderson to have a shot at another ring? We'll see.

I would hope not, however, because, after all, he's reportedly worth $400 mil. At some point, is an extra $20 mil to a four-year $120 mil contract - on top of his $400 mil reported wealth - going to enhance his legacy?

So to answer your original question for the sake of argument: We will get a good player at #10 and probably #26. At present, Mikal Bridges is projected at #10 on nbadraft.net. He's sound fundamentally. Whether he's quick enough and athletic enough to defend Brown or Tatum would be my litmus test.

At #26, DiVincenzo, Spellman and Brunson, three Villanova standouts may still be on the board. We clearly need a player like TJ McConnell who can shoot from the 3-point line. That could be Brunson.

But I would never trade this year's #10 pick for a protected #5 pick in next year's draft. Almost by definition Orlando will be better and the draft, according to many reports, will be weaker.

Over and out.

Yes, the 2019 draft does not look good, so I’d avoid it. However, 2020 will probably have the re-introduction of HS eligibles. So that draft should be crazy deep.

BC has already basically said they aren’t using 26 to draft a player for next year. So the Jalen Brunson’s, the Keita Bates-Diops... aren’t coming to Philly.

LeBron will absolutely, definitely, beyond question want his absolute full max. He doesn’t do discounts anymore as he did it for MIA and then Arison started to dump players to save tax money two years later. So his trust is gone. Part of the reason he doesn’t get along with Gilbert.

Bottom line; if all of Ayton, Doncic, JJJ, Bagley, Bamba, Young, Porter, Carter and Mikal B are off the board, Kawhi has already been dealt elsewhere, and I have no assurances from LeBron or PG... I probably take this deal from Orlando:

Mack (only 1M guaranteed) and 2020 top 3 protected 1st (if not conveyed becomes 2021 unprotected 1st) for Bayless and 10.

[nrok10307]

What about the #10 for ORL top 5 protected pick next year?

if the draft shakes out how I hope, I'd be ok with that to get the player I want.

Mack & 2019 pick for 2018 #10 + salary dump? Figure I try to help you guys clear some cap if needed?

For the sake of discussion: If we're in the market for Kawhi Leonard (and have a commitment from him to stay in Philly), then #10 is one of two big trading chips, the other probably being Saric.

Embiid and Simmons are untouchable. Fultz is probably untouchable - and probably should be.

As for freeing up salary cap: I've got our payroll down to $70 mil including (including my estimates for #10 and #26 cap holds and an estimated "stretch" of Bayless's $8.6 mil final year in a buyout.

If my calculations are right, that means we'd have $30 mil for LeBron. Ideally, we should be able to offer him - and he may require - $35.4 mil assuming the cap doesn't go up which would be advantageous for Philly.

Will LeBron force Colangelo to dump prospects/possible key role players like Justin Anderson to have a shot at another ring? We'll see.

I would hope not, however, because, after all, he's reportedly worth $400 mil. At some point, is an extra $20 mil to a four-year $120 mil contract - on top of his $400 mil reported wealth - going to enhance his legacy?

So to answer your original question for the sake of argument: We will get a good player at #10 and probably #26. At present, Mikal Bridges is projected at #10 on nbadraft.net. He's sound fundamentally. Whether he's quick enough and athletic enough to defend Brown or Tatum would be my litmus test.

At #26, DiVincenzo, Spellman and Brunson, three Villanova standouts may still be on the board. We clearly need a player like TJ McConnell who can shoot from the 3-point line. That could be Brunson.

But I would never trade this year's #10 pick for a protected #5 pick in next year's draft. Almost by definition Orlando will be better and the draft, according to many reports, will be weaker.

Over and out.

Interesting thoughts. I'm of the vein that we shouldn't sell the farm for Kawhi (injury, SAS unlikely to trade, etc.) - to me our real window is in 2 -3 years when GSW dissolves. I'd rather preserve assets and cap for then... LeBron is a great stop gap until then (save us assets, makes us a contender though not the favorite, and gives Simmons/Emiid invaluable experience).

Therefore, I want to ensure we have future high end assets - thus I'm willing to defer picks for later years if they have the potential to be higher.

If we get LeBron, we don't need to integrate two (or more) rookies along with TLC/Furk/etc. We'll be picking up cheap vets that can contribute now.

What if the Magic offered 1-5/12-30 protected in 2019 otherwise rolls over to unprotected in 2020 (for our #10)? Or what if we're able to dump Bayless and #10 for a top 3 protected 2019 pick? Just trying to get creative here. I can't see the Magic being much better next year when they are trying to integrate two lottery picks that are most likely going to be net negative players next year.

[hookshot199]

if the draft shakes out how I hope, I'd be ok with that to get the player I want.

Mack & 2019 pick for 2018 #10 + salary dump? Figure I try to help you guys clear some cap if needed?

For the sake of discussion: If we're in the market for Kawhi Leonard (and have a commitment from him to stay in Philly), then #10 is one of two big trading chips, the other probably being Saric.

Embiid and Simmons are untouchable. Fultz is probably untouchable - and probably should be.

As for freeing up salary cap: I've got our payroll down to $70 mil including (including my estimates for #10 and #26 cap holds and an estimated "stretch" of Bayless's $8.6 mil final year in a buyout.

If my calculations are right, that means we'd have $30 mil for LeBron. Ideally, we should be able to offer him - and he may require - $35.4 mil assuming the cap doesn't go up which would be advantageous for Philly.

Will LeBron force Colangelo to dump prospects/possible key role players like Justin Anderson to have a shot at another ring? We'll see.

I would hope not, however, because, after all, he's reportedly worth $400 mil. At some point, is an extra $20 mil to a four-year $120 mil contract - on top of his $400 mil reported wealth - going to enhance his legacy?

So to answer your original question for the sake of argument: We will get a good player at #10 and probably #26. At present, Mikal Bridges is projected at #10 on nbadraft.net. He's sound fundamentally. Whether he's quick enough and athletic enough to defend Brown or Tatum would be my litmus test.

At #26, DiVincenzo, Spellman and Brunson, three Villanova standouts may still be on the board. We clearly need a player like TJ McConnell who can shoot from the 3-point line. That could be Brunson.

But I would never trade this year's #10 pick for a protected #5 pick in next year's draft. Almost by definition Orlando will be better and the draft, according to many reports, will be weaker.

Over and out.

Yes, the 2019 draft does not look good, so I’d avoid it. However, 2020 will probably have the re-introduction of HS eligibles. So that draft should be crazy deep.

BC has already basically said they aren’t using 26 to draft a player for next year. So the Jalen Brunson’s, the Keita Bates-Diops... aren’t coming to Philly.

LeBron will absolutely, definitely, beyond question want his absolute full max. He doesn’t do discounts anymore as he did it for MIA and then Arison started to dump players to save tax money two years later. So his trust is gone. Part of the reason he doesn’t get along with Gilbert.

Bottom line; if all of Ayton, Doncic, JJJ, Bagley, Bamba, Young, Porter, Carter and Mikal B are off the board, Kawhi has already been dealt elsewhere, and I have no assurances from LeBron or PG... I probably take this deal from Orlando:

Mack (only 1M guaranteed) and 2020 top 3 protected 1st (if not conveyed becomes 2021 unprotected 1st) for Bayless and 10.

So Process, if Colangelo calls LeBron's bluff, what are his options? It seems to me he has none. I would call his bluff. Then again, I don't get paid the big bucks to make those decisions. I wasn't born to a Daddy who was president of the Suns.

[the_process]

For the sake of discussion: If we're in the market for Kawhi Leonard (and have a commitment from him to stay in Philly), then #10 is one of two big trading chips, the other probably being Saric.

Embiid and Simmons are untouchable. Fultz is probably untouchable - and probably should be.

As for freeing up salary cap: I've got our payroll down to $70 mil including (including my estimates for #10 and #26 cap holds and an estimated "stretch" of Bayless's $8.6 mil final year in a buyout.

If my calculations are right, that means we'd have $30 mil for LeBron. Ideally, we should be able to offer him - and he may require - $35.4 mil assuming the cap doesn't go up which would be advantageous for Philly.

Will LeBron force Colangelo to dump prospects/possible key role players like Justin Anderson to have a shot at another ring? We'll see.

I would hope not, however, because, after all, he's reportedly worth $400 mil. At some point, is an extra $20 mil to a four-year $120 mil contract - on top of his $400 mil reported wealth - going to enhance his legacy?

So to answer your original question for the sake of argument: We will get a good player at #10 and probably #26. At present, Mikal Bridges is projected at #10 on nbadraft.net. He's sound fundamentally. Whether he's quick enough and athletic enough to defend Brown or Tatum would be my litmus test.

At #26, DiVincenzo, Spellman and Brunson, three Villanova standouts may still be on the board. We clearly need a player like TJ McConnell who can shoot from the 3-point line. That could be Brunson.

But I would never trade this year's #10 pick for a protected #5 pick in next year's draft. Almost by definition Orlando will be better and the draft, according to many reports, will be weaker.

Over and out.

Yes, the 2019 draft does not look good, so I’d avoid it. However, 2020 will probably have the re-introduction of HS eligibles. So that draft should be crazy deep.

BC has already basically said they aren’t using 26 to draft a player for next year. So the Jalen Brunson’s, the Keita Bates-Diops... aren’t coming to Philly.

LeBron will absolutely, definitely, beyond question want his absolute full max. He doesn’t do discounts anymore as he did it for MIA and then Arison started to dump players to save tax money two years later. So his trust is gone. Part of the reason he doesn’t get along with Gilbert.

Bottom line; if all of Ayton, Doncic, JJJ, Bagley, Bamba, Young, Porter, Carter and Mikal B are off the board, Kawhi has already been dealt elsewhere, and I have no assurances from LeBron or PG... I probably take this deal from Orlando:

Mack (only 1M guaranteed) and 2020 top 3 protected 1st (if not conveyed becomes 2021 unprotected 1st) for Bayless and 10.

So Process, if Colangelo calls LeBron's bluff, what are his options? It seems to me he has none. I would call his bluff. Then again, I don't get paid the big bucks to make those decisions. I wasn't born to a Daddy who was President of the Suns.

That’s the thing. LeBron won’t have to call anyone’s bluff. Scott O’Neil is already squatting in Harris’ office, blowing up his e-mail and cell, telling him to do whatever necessary to get LeBron because marketing. BC cherishes his relationships, and already has Rich Paul client Ben Simmons. So everyone in the organization will be on board to do whatever it takes to max LeBron and get him to Philly. For better or worse.

[hookshot199]

Yes, the 2019 draft does not look good, so I’d avoid it. However, 2020 will probably have the re-introduction of HS eligibles. So that draft should be crazy deep.

BC has already basically said they aren’t using 26 to draft a player for next year. So the Jalen Brunson’s, the Keita Bates-Diops... aren’t coming to Philly.

LeBron will absolutely, definitely, beyond question want his absolute full max. He doesn’t do discounts anymore as he did it for MIA and then Arison started to dump players to save tax money two years later. So his trust is gone. Part of the reason he doesn’t get along with Gilbert.

Bottom line; if all of Ayton, Doncic, JJJ, Bagley, Bamba, Young, Porter, Carter and Mikal B are off the board, Kawhi has already been dealt elsewhere, and I have no assurances from LeBron or PG... I probably take this deal from Orlando:

Mack (only 1M guaranteed) and 2020 top 3 protected 1st (if not conveyed becomes 2021 unprotected 1st) for Bayless and 10.

So Process, if Colangelo calls LeBron's bluff, what are his options? It seems to me he has none. I would call his bluff. Then again, I don't get paid the big bucks to make those decisions. I wasn't born to a Daddy who was President of the Suns.

That’s the thing. LeBron won’t have to call anyone’s bluff. Scott O’Neil is already squatting in Harris’ office, blowing up his e-mail and cell, telling him to do whatever necessary to get LeBron because marketing. BC cherishes his relationships, and already has Rich Paul client Ben Simmons. So everyone in the organization will be on board to do whatever it takes to max LeBron and get him to Philly. For better or worse.

Well, they probably can trade the 26 pick with Bayless to Atlanta…or somebody else…and clear up cap space. Also, I would wait until the trade deadline to make the move for Kawhi and do it by way of sign-and-trade. That way they'll know if he can play pre-injury levels.

[hookshot199]

if the draft shakes out how I hope, I'd be ok with that to get the player I want.

Mack & 2019 pick for 2018 #10 + salary dump? Figure I try to help you guys clear some cap if needed?

For the sake of discussion: If we're in the market for Kawhi Leonard (and have a commitment from him to stay in Philly), then #10 is one of two big trading chips, the other probably being Saric.

Embiid and Simmons are untouchable. Fultz is probably untouchable - and probably should be.

As for freeing up salary cap: I've got our payroll down to $70 mil including (including my estimates for #10 and #26 cap holds and an estimated "stretch" of Bayless's $8.6 mil final year in a buyout.

If my calculations are right, that means we'd have $30 mil for LeBron. Ideally, we should be able to offer him - and he may require - $35.4 mil assuming the cap doesn't go up which would be advantageous for Philly.

Will LeBron force Colangelo to dump prospects/possible key role players like Justin Anderson to have a shot at another ring? We'll see.

I would hope not, however, because, after all, he's reportedly worth $400 mil. At some point, is an extra $20 mil to a four-year $120 mil contract - on top of his $400 mil reported wealth - going to enhance his legacy?

So to answer your original question for the sake of argument: We will get a good player at #10 and probably #26. At present, Mikal Bridges is projected at #10 on nbadraft.net. He's sound fundamentally. Whether he's quick enough and athletic enough to defend Brown or Tatum would be my litmus test.

At #26, DiVincenzo, Spellman and Brunson, three Villanova standouts may still be on the board. We clearly need a player like TJ McConnell who can shoot from the 3-point line. That could be Brunson.

But I would never trade this year's #10 pick for a protected #5 pick in next year's draft. Almost by definition Orlando will be better and the draft, according to many reports, will be weaker.

Over and out.

Interesting thoughts. I'm of the vein that we shouldn't sell the farm for Kawhi (injury, SAS unlikely to trade, etc.) - to me our real window is in 2 -3 years when GSW dissolves. I'd rather preserve assets and cap for then... LeBron is a great stop gap until then (save us assets, makes us a contender though not the favorite, and gives Simmons/Emiid invaluable experience).

Therefore, I want to ensure we have future high end assets - thus I'm willing to defer picks for later years if they have the potential to be higher.

If we get LeBron, we don't need to integrate two (or more) rookies along with TLC/Furk/etc. We'll be picking up cheap vets that can contribute now.

What if the Magic offered 1-5/12-30 protected in 2019 otherwise rolls over to unprotected in 2020 (for our #10)? Or what if we're able to dump Bayless and #10 for a top 3 protected 2019 pick? Just trying to get creative here. I can't see the Magic being much better next year when they are trying to integrate two lottery picks that are most likely going to be net negative players next year.

I think we need to save the 10 pick to make a move for Kawhi, but if we have to trade 26 to free up space for LeBron, I'd rather go for Kawhi in a sign-and-trade at trade deadline. That way we would have more assurances that he's still a primo player.

[Ericb5]

I'm just assuming that the 10th pick will never play for the Sixers. I would rather trade it in a package for a veteran. So if some other lottery team wants the pick then maybe they can help facilitate a trade for us for Kawhi.

If we DO end up drafting a player there then I love Mikal Bridges, but I am just not that excited about adding another rookie to our team right now. It is always nice to have prospects, but I think that we are ready to contend next season if we can add some players that can contribute immediately.

[HartfordWhalers]

I'm going to lock this and make sure we keep all draft talk in the prospect thread now that we aren't following other teams or the ping pong balls.

If anyone needs this thread open just pm me or another mod. Thanks all.