Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason?

[djFan71]

If the team remains the same then you roll out Kyrie-Brown-Hayward-Tatum-Horford...that lineup is a mismatch nightmare for opposing teams. 5 guys can that beat you in a variety of ways. Bench is Rozier/Smart/Morris/Theis/Baynes. Rozier/Smart have regular minutes in the 25-30 per game range. the remaining minutes divided based on match-ups to Morris/Theis/Baynes. Semi is 11th man. you just roll with it. you can keep the guys fresh. you can give them strategic rest. naturally, injuries/sickness occur. It'll be fine.

That's the default starting lineup for sure, but for some matchups you're going to need to token start Baynes. Then one of JB/JT/GH comes off the bench. We know Brad doesn't hesitate to roll guys in and out, so it's gonna happen. Embiid, Cousins, Ayton (if he's not here), etc.

I think you sit Horf.

Irving, brown, hayward, tatum, baynes

Horf, smart and terry first off bench.

Yeah, that's an option as well. Somebody pretty good is coming off the bench. Along with several other pretty good people...

[ballup]

Something that ticks me off is how Jaylen‘s perceived ceiling by the general masses is a high end 3 and D player. What does that even mean? He already can attack the basket off the dribble and has some low-high post game.

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Some people don't even know what means 3&D, these players called 3&D or even better players like elite role players usually reach that level in their prime, brown is doing things that most of these type of players can't do, not even in their prime, and he is doing it as a 21 years old player.
They never learn, with kawhi was the same thing.

I've had someone tell me Kawhi is a 3 and D player. The logic is that once you become one, you never shake off that title. That makes total sense for an elite player whose possessions were a quarter PnR and he attempts less than a 3rd of his shots from 3.

[GuyClinch]

Keep Brown and Tatum - we might stay in the mix for ten years. Trade for a gimpy 26 year old...who knows... I am not sure this is a no brainer. Will trust Danny but I have mixed feelings bout it..

[Ugly Duckling]

I agree with what some of you guys eluded to in terms of no one being untouchable from DA's perspective and that there aren't too many teams willing and able to give up what it would take to get Brown. He's too good and young. I think he's in green for years to come, but you never know

[NetsDynasty2012]

Yes

[lon3lytoaster]

With another summer or two of refining his handle, Jaylen is going to be downright scary. He's borderline a knockdown spot up shooter, is becoming very solid on the pull up and is a blur in transition.

Not trading him for **** less than Anthony Davis and even then I'm exhausting everything before including him in an offer.

[Falstaff]

Short answer: yes.

Long answer: yes.

[Feed Your Head]

I know we all know it but I just need to say it again, Tatum and Jaylen are 20 and 21, that is INSANE. They are shouldering a huge amount of responsibility, and are surpassing everything you could have reasonably expected. Everyone talks about Tatum and rightfully so, but Jaylen is going to be a top 25 player.

I wasn't a Jaylen skeptic, but thought his ceiling was limited to a guy who makes a couple of all star teams. I was wrong, he is a perennial all star.

With them being so young and so good already, with those rookie contracts, they are both untouchable at this point IMO.

[snowman]

most definite yes. So has Tatum, Haywood, Irving and Horford.

[TheMartian]

I'm on the boat that unless it's for AD, just keep this band together and roll with them.

[Feed Your Head]

most definite yes. So has Tatum, Haywood, Irving and Horford.

[Wes-J]

Thinking about Jaylen today, I can't come up with more than two shooting guards (at best) that are better. With his skill set, athleticism, clutch DNA, and Alpha mentality, he could redefine this position. We know he'll continue to put in work.

Think about that for a minute.

[chrisab123]

Yeah you can't trade him or Tatum at this point. He wants to be the Alpha. Team shouldn't be going after Kwahi or even AD they have the team right now that can eventually win the title. Kyrie and Hayward could put them over.

[SichtingLives]

Jaylen is a year or two away from being as good as Klay. Tatum is a year or two from being better than Jordan. lets sit tight and be content with 15 straight championships.

[Delk00]

I honestly don't think Tatum will start. Let a big start next to Al for a couple spot mins a half.

Irving(32) - Brown(28) - Hayward(32) - Horford(30) - Baynes(15)
w/ Rozier(22) - Smart(24) - Tatum(28) - Morris(16) - Theis (13)

Keep Horfords min around 30. Keep Smarts mins around 24.


But i want no part of Kawhi. Brown is untouchable to anyone not named Anthony Davis. the 2 & 3 are the hardest positions to find & we got 2 future all stars at both spots. Keep them please.

Tatum is NOT coming off the bench. LOL. You're talking about one of the next Superstars in the league. Not happening. He's too damn good. He's been one of the BEST overall playoff performers right F'in now as a rookie.

I don't think people fully realize how special this kid is.

He's my favorite. I'm naming my kid after him lol. I know how special he is.

What's your solution to the position crunch?

Just play all of them. Assuming no injuries that is your best 5 that will get the most minutes.

[BruceBanner18]

I absolutely love Jaylen's game and potential, but my main concern with keeping him is the team's rotations next season. With Hayward coming back, him and Brown will eat most of the minutes at the 2 and 3, and push Tatum to play almost exclusively at the 4. Although Stevens likes to play these small lineups to close out games (mainly with Smart at the 2), I'll hate to see JT and his 205 lb fight for position with big guys for 35 minutes a game.

I too am drooling over the potential of an Irving-Brown-Hayward-Tatum-Horford lineup, but it seems to me that playing Tatum out of position for the whole season (and the near future) will hurt both the team short term (rebounding, interior defense) and Tatum's career long term (injury risk, fatigue, developing his postup game etc).

I honestly don't think Tatum will start. Let a big start next to Al for a couple spot mins a half.

Irving(32) - Brown(28) - Hayward(32) - Horford(30) - Baynes(15)
w/ Rozier(22) - Smart(24) - Tatum(28) - Morris(16) - Theis (13)

Keep Horfords min around 30. Keep Smarts mins around 24.


But i want no part of Kawhi. Brown is untouchable to anyone not named Anthony Davis. the 2 & 3 are the hardest positions to find & we got 2 future all stars at both spots. Keep them please.

Our second unit is a playoff team of its own

[DoubleHappiness]

Thinking about Jaylen today, I can't come up with more than two shooting guards (at best) that are better. With his skill set, athleticism, clutch DNA, and Alpha mentality, he could redefine this position. We know he'll continue to put in work.

Think about that for a minute.

I gave you an and1 because I agree with the spirit of your post, but he does nothing to "redefine" the SG position. That title goes to Mr. Michael Jordan, the GOAT SG.

I was high on Jaylen early (even though I didn't like the draft pick). But I hadn't watched him play much before the draft. I think Jaylen can be the best SG in the NBA (eventually). But he's doing nothing that Jordan hasn't done. And as elite as Jaylen is as an athlete, he is a step or two below MJ on that plane. Obviously that's no knock on Jaylen, comparing him to the GOAT. But he's MJ-lite as his ceiling. And that's pretty amazing.

Last year I compared him to Nique repeatedly. But with his development he looks more like MJ-lite this year. And that's a good thing. Nique came into the league at 23 or something close (off the top so correct me if I'm wrong), and couldn't shoot 3s til later in his career. But Jaylen is showing a precocious ability to improve. If he ends up an MJ/Nique cross...well, home run. He doesn't quite have the driving predilection Nique had, but he doesn't need it as his post-up & fadeaway game is starting to look vet level.

He's gonna have a few down games I think. But I keep thinking that. And he keeps coming out haymakers in the first quarter.

[Tyakack]

Jaylen is a year or two away from being as good as Klay. Tatum is a year or two from being better than Jordan. lets sit tight and be content with 15 straight championships.

[Wes-J]

Thinking about Jaylen today, I can't come up with more than two shooting guards (at best) that are better. With his skill set, athleticism, clutch DNA, and Alpha mentality, he could redefine this position. We know he'll continue to put in work.

Think about that for a minute.

I gave you an and1 because I agree with the spirit of your post, but he does nothing to "redefine" the SG position. That title goes to Mr. Michael Jordan, the GOAT SG.

I was high on Jaylen early (even though I didn't like the draft pick). But I hadn't watched him play much before the draft. I think Jaylen can be the best SG in the NBA (eventually). But he's doing nothing that Jordan hasn't done. And as elite as Jaylen is as an athlete, he is a step or two below MJ on that plane. Obviously that's no knock on Jaylen, comparing him to the GOAT. But he's MJ-lite as his ceiling. And that's pretty amazing.

Last year I compared him to Nique repeatedly. But with his development he looks more like MJ-lite this year. And that's a good thing. Nique came into the league at 23 or something close (off the top so correct me if I'm wrong), and couldn't shoot 3s til later in his career. But Jaylen is showing a precocious ability to improve. If he ends up an MJ/Nique cross...well, home run. He doesn't quite have the driving predilection Nique had, but he doesn't need it as his post-up & fadeaway game is starting to look vet level.

He's gonna have a few down games I think. But I keep thinking that. And he keeps coming out haymakers in the first quarter.

Ok, that's not where I intended to go on that one.

Just simply stating in the NOW, there isn't anyone I see that has the combination of athleticism, skill, and fearlessness to change how we view the position. He can blow by guys going left or right and finish with either hand. Elite combination of finesse and power at the rim. He can post up any 2 in the league and destroy most. In transition, forget it, he's a blur. He can cover full court in a few seconds like LeBron putting serious pressure on defenses. And now he's a reliable 3pt shooter? With the ability to get that shot off contested and convert??? That's just not f*****g fair.

He's 21. And we haven't seen his body fill out yet. Good luck with that NBA.

[ConstableGeneva]

300+ playoff points, before turning 22 yo.: