The Draft (Postseason Edition): 1/16/31/59 (NEW POLL)

[thamadkant]

If you could have your choice of player in the 6-10 range through a trade to pair with Ayton or Doncic who would it be?

Jaren Jackson Jr

Because someone has to focus on shot altering type defense and spacing by drawing big men out of the key

[lilfishi22]

If you could have your choice of player in the 6-10 range through a trade to pair with Ayton or Doncic who would it be?

I would have a hard time not picking Mikal Bridges.

Even if we take Doncic? We would have like 4 wings of similar size

[lilfishi22]

If you could have your choice of player in the 6-10 range through a trade to pair with Ayton or Doncic who would it be?

Ayton - Bridges
Doncic - Bamba or Carter (assuming JJJr is gone by #6)

[Jwetz83]

With Ayton you have a big star potential

And Doncic you have a player you might have a lower ceiling as far as super star potential, but he would make “the suns” star ( Booker) and other suns better.

If the Suns were in the first stage of the rebuild, without booker then I think Ayton would be the pick. You then would build your roster around him.

But with Booker and the others already on the roster, I think you take Doncic. He would just make everyone better. Look what Simmons has done for the 76 ers.

If you wanted to take a big, I think Bamba is the way to go. But that would require the suns trading back to 3 and getting value from the Hawks to move up.

[Waylay13]

If you could have your choice of player in the 6-10 range through a trade to pair with Ayton or Doncic who would it be?

I would have a hard time not picking Mikal Bridges.

Even if we take Doncic? We would have like 4 wings of similar size

yea i know it isn't very balanced but I really like like him.

[lilfishi22]

With Ayton you have a big star potential

And Doncic you have a player you might have a lower ceiling as far as super star potential, but he would make “the suns” star ( Booker) and other suns better.

If the Suns were in the first stage of the rebuild, without booker then I think Ayton would be the pick. You then would build your roster around him.

But with Booker and the others already on the roster, I think you take Doncic. He would just make everyone better. Look what Simmons has done for the 76 ers.

If you wanted to take a big, I think Bamba is the way to go. But that would require the suns trading back to 3 and getting value from the Hawks to move up.

I think Bamba is a role player. Potentially an elite role player but you don't trade down with the only #1 pick in franchise history in a draft with two potential franchise changing players to draft a role player.

[Revived]

With Ayton you have a big star potential

And Doncic you have a player you might have a lower ceiling as far as super star potential, but he would make “the suns” star ( Booker) and other suns better.

If the Suns were in the first stage of the rebuild, without booker then I think Ayton would be the pick. You then would build your roster around him.

But with Booker and the others already on the roster, I think you take Doncic. He would just make everyone better. Look what Simmons has done for the 76 ers.

If you wanted to take a big, I think Bamba is the way to go. But that would require the suns trading back to 3 and getting value from the Hawks to move up.

I think Bamba is a role player. Potentially an elite role player but you don't trade down with the only #1 pick in franchise history in a draft with two potential franchise changing players to draft a role player.

I think Bama will be another version of Rudy Gobert. And Utah fans think of Gobert as a franchise player as much we do about Booker.

[thamadkant]

With Ayton you have a big star potential

And Doncic you have a player you might have a lower ceiling as far as super star potential, but he would make “the suns” star ( Booker) and other suns better.

If the Suns were in the first stage of the rebuild, without booker then I think Ayton would be the pick. You then would build your roster around him.

But with Booker and the others already on the roster, I think you take Doncic. He would just make everyone better. Look what Simmons has done for the 76 ers.

If you wanted to take a big, I think Bamba is the way to go. But that would require the suns trading back to 3 and getting value from the Hawks to move up.

Signing of Redick, Bellineli, Ilyasova
Improvement of Saric
Healthy Embiid

are also all critical.

In the playoffs, 76ers were better without Simmons on the court against Celtics, due to Simmons lack of shooting

[MrMiyagi]

If you could have your choice of player in the 6-10 range through a trade to pair with Ayton or Doncic who would it be?

Gimme Ayton and Trae Young.

[thamadkant]

With Ayton you have a big star potential

And Doncic you have a player you might have a lower ceiling as far as super star potential, but he would make “the suns” star ( Booker) and other suns better.

If the Suns were in the first stage of the rebuild, without booker then I think Ayton would be the pick. You then would build your roster around him.

But with Booker and the others already on the roster, I think you take Doncic. He would just make everyone better. Look what Simmons has done for the 76 ers.

If you wanted to take a big, I think Bamba is the way to go. But that would require the suns trading back to 3 and getting value from the Hawks to move up.

I think Bamba is a role player. Potentially an elite role player but you don't trade down with the only #1 pick in franchise history in a draft with two potential franchise changing players to draft a role player.

I think Bama will be another version of Rudy Gobert. And Utah fans think of Gobert as a franchise player as much we do about Booker.

Gobert hasnt even finished his rookie contract and a new Gobert is already coming into the league?

Same as when Bender was thought to be the next Porzingis when Porzingis was just drafted a year earlier...


Bamba looks like he will be serviceable defensively, but he is more likely to be the next Thabeet or Olawokandi than Gobert

[TheLogician]

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This combine coverage sucks! I want to see it, not watch a 5 minute interview with Julius Randle. Cut to the workouts for 1 minute, then oh hey look! Its an interview with Coach Fiz and the Knicks GM! This is dumb! I hope the coverage they are re-airing tomorrow on NBA TV is better and actually showing the participants in the Combine and not this bs!

DBook did the Lane Agility Drill in 10.27s... bigger and taller than Grayson.
It's so weird when people says he aint athletic.

Booker is plenty athletic and this agility gave me hope he would be a decent/good defender in the NBA. I just think he has a poor feel for the game on that end... its this exact thing that scares the hell out of me with Ayton.

We've seen coaching and system close the gap for the Warriors and Jazz. Defense is more teachable than shooting, but guys with no shot or a broken shot get taken in the lottery every year. Booker had only one year with Cal (coming off the bench) and a bunch of amateurs with the Suns. Igor should be able to find a way to utilize Booker and Ayton's length and natural talents.

[Jwetz83]

With Ayton you have a big star potential

And Doncic you have a player you might have a lower ceiling as far as super star potential, but he would make “the suns” star ( Booker) and other suns better.

If the Suns were in the first stage of the rebuild, without booker then I think Ayton would be the pick. You then would build your roster around him.

But with Booker and the others already on the roster, I think you take Doncic. He would just make everyone better. Look what Simmons has done for the 76 ers.

If you wanted to take a big, I think Bamba is the way to go. But that would require the suns trading back to 3 and getting value from the Hawks to move up.

Signing of Redick, Bellineli, Ilyasova
Improvement of Saric
Healthy Embiid

are also all critical.

In the playoffs, 76ers were better without Simmons on the court against Celtics, due to Simmons lack of shooting

Yes but Doncic can shoot. So teams would have to play him honest. Look at how Simmons has been successful without a jump shot. Just imagine what Doncic can do and how the floor spacing improves.

[saintEscaton]

I think Bamba is a role player. Potentially an elite role player but you don't trade down with the only #1 pick in franchise history in a draft with two potential franchise changing players to draft a role player.

I think Bama will be another version of Rudy Gobert. And Utah fans think of Gobert as a franchise player as much we do about Booker.

Gobert hasnt even finished his rookie contract and a new Gobert is already coming into the league?

Same as when Bender was thought to be the next Porzingis when Porzingis was just drafted a year earlier...


Bamba looks like he will be serviceable defensively, but he is more likely to be the next Thabeet or Olawokandi than Gobert

I think Bamba will be at least close to Noel during his time in Philly if not better, and now that he has a reworked three point shooting motion he should be able to stretch the floor in spurts in addition to be a roll man. Jaren Jackson could very well be Ekpe Udoh with a jumper, that foul rate is astronomical plus Bamb edges him out in overall block percentage so I think he is the more disciplined rim protector

[lilfishi22]

With Ayton you have a big star potential

And Doncic you have a player you might have a lower ceiling as far as super star potential, but he would make “the suns” star ( Booker) and other suns better.

If the Suns were in the first stage of the rebuild, without booker then I think Ayton would be the pick. You then would build your roster around him.

But with Booker and the others already on the roster, I think you take Doncic. He would just make everyone better. Look what Simmons has done for the 76 ers.

If you wanted to take a big, I think Bamba is the way to go. But that would require the suns trading back to 3 and getting value from the Hawks to move up.

I think Bamba is a role player. Potentially an elite role player but you don't trade down with the only #1 pick in franchise history in a draft with two potential franchise changing players to draft a role player.

I think Bama will be another version of Rudy Gobert. And Utah fans think of Gobert as a franchise player as much we do about Booker.

I don't believe this is true. Gordon Hayward was their guy and for a brief moment when he left and Mitchell hadn't quite emerged as a star yet, Gobert may have been their 'franchise guy'.

[Revived]

I think Bamba is a role player. Potentially an elite role player but you don't trade down with the only #1 pick in franchise history in a draft with two potential franchise changing players to draft a role player.

I think Bama will be another version of Rudy Gobert. And Utah fans think of Gobert as a franchise player as much we do about Booker.

I don't believe this is true. Gordon Hayward was their guy and for a brief moment when he left and Mitchell hadn't quite emerged as a star yet, Gobert may have been their 'franchise guy'.

He's the best defensive player in the world right now and Utah wins games off their defense. He is their franchise player. Even his offense is coming along well.

He isn't a role player by any means.

[Revived]

I think Bamba is a role player. Potentially an elite role player but you don't trade down with the only #1 pick in franchise history in a draft with two potential franchise changing players to draft a role player.

I think Bama will be another version of Rudy Gobert. And Utah fans think of Gobert as a franchise player as much we do about Booker.

Gobert hasnt even finished his rookie contract and a new Gobert is already coming into the league?

Same as when Bender was thought to be the next Porzingis when Porzingis was just drafted a year earlier...


Bamba looks like he will be serviceable defensively, but he is more likely to be the next Thabeet or Olawokandi than Gobert

I think only idiots thought that Bender would be the next Porzingis. Their difference in athleticism was huge and that itself showed he would not be similar to the Unicorn.

Bamba has the greatest wingspan EVER in the league with 7'10 and had the highest block % in the NCAA among top prospect big men. Ayton has a higher chance of being Thabeet than Bamba does.

[saintEscaton]

I think Bama will be another version of Rudy Gobert. And Utah fans think of Gobert as a franchise player as much we do about Booker.

I don't believe this is true. Gordon Hayward was their guy and for a brief moment when he left and Mitchell hadn't quite emerged as a star yet, Gobert may have been their 'franchise guy'.

He's the best defensive player in the world right now and Utah wins games off their defense. He is their franchise player. Even his offense is coming along well.

He isn't a role player by any means.

Since Rudy Gobert became a starter, the Jazz are 142-90 (61.2%)
They're 18-30 in that same span without him. To translate that to wins, they're a 50 win team in the West with Gobert or a 30 win team without. The Jazz have posted a cumulative DRTG of 103.3 since he became a starter with him on the court while posting 109.0 DRTG without.

For comparative reasons, that 103.3 DRTG would be the #1 in the NBA right now and 109.0 DRTG would be a bit worse than the league average around the 15th spot.

With Gobert, teams attempt 28.1% (15th ranked) of their shots at the rim and convert at a 60.2% (#1 ranked) rate. The average 2PT shot distance is 8.57 feet out.

Without Gobert, teams attempt 31.6% (#3 ranked) of their shots at the rim and convert 65.2% (19th ranked) of their shots. The average 2PT shot is attempted 7.56 feet out.

[lilfishi22]

I think Bama will be another version of Rudy Gobert. And Utah fans think of Gobert as a franchise player as much we do about Booker.

I don't believe this is true. Gordon Hayward was their guy and for a brief moment when he left and Mitchell hadn't quite emerged as a star yet, Gobert may have been their 'franchise guy'.

He's the best defensive player in the world right now and Utah wins games off their defense. He is their franchise player. Even his offense is coming along well.

He isn't a role player by any means.

He's an elite role player. How many franchise guys are almost exclusively defense first guys? In an offense first league, can you really build a team around Gobert as your franchise guy? Or do you build it around Mitchell?

[Revived]

I don't believe this is true. Gordon Hayward was their guy and for a brief moment when he left and Mitchell hadn't quite emerged as a star yet, Gobert may have been their 'franchise guy'.

He's the best defensive player in the world right now and Utah wins games off their defense. He is their franchise player. Even his offense is coming along well.

He isn't a role player by any means.

He's an elite role player. How many franchise guys are almost exclusively defense first guys? In an offense first league, can you really build a team around Gobert as your franchise guy? Or do you build it around Mitchell?

There haven't been many guys in the league with Gobert's defensive ability so your first question is tough to answer. I think Utah builds it around Gobert. Put shooters and scorers around him especially with Rubio facilitating.

[Revived]

I don't believe this is true. Gordon Hayward was their guy and for a brief moment when he left and Mitchell hadn't quite emerged as a star yet, Gobert may have been their 'franchise guy'.

He's the best defensive player in the world right now and Utah wins games off their defense. He is their franchise player. Even his offense is coming along well.

He isn't a role player by any means.

Since Rudy Gobert became a starter, the Jazz are 142-90 (61.2%)
They're 18-30 in that same span without him. To translate that to wins, they're a 50 win team in the West with Gobert or a 30 win team without. The Jazz have posted a cumulative DRTG of 103.3 since he became a starter with him on the court while posting 109.0 DRTG without.

For comparative reasons, that 103.3 DRTG would be the #1 in the NBA right now and 109.0 DRTG would be a bit worse than the league average around the 15th spot.

With Gobert, teams attempt 28.1% (15th ranked) of their shots at the rim and convert at a 60.2% (#1 ranked) rate. The average 2PT shot distance is 8.57 feet out.

Without Gobert, teams attempt 31.6% (#3 ranked) of their shots at the rim and convert 65.2% (19th ranked) of their shots. The average 2PT shot is attempted 7.56 feet out.

Yeah this further proves my point. He's too much of a difference maker to be considered just a role player.