The Kemba Conundrum - Trade or Max

[fatlever]

Poll for the extremes of what to do with Kemba. If these were the only two options, what do you choose?
1. Trade him this offseason for picks/players
2. Give him a max contract next summer (5y/188mil)

[fatlever]

I picked trade. Can't pay Kemba max $ no matter how much he is loved. Only way he can stay is for much less than max. Team better have a good idea, right now, of the number it will take to keep kemba next year.

[316Hornets]

Purely business, Kemba is out the door. We struck out with this lineup and Kemba's discount contract years. Back to the drawing board.

[LofJ]

Purely business, Kemba is out the door. We struck out with this lineup and Kemba's discount contract years. Back to the drawing board.

I agree, we all love Kemba. But $180 million for a team that doesn't have a star player to complement him is too rich for us at this point in time. He needs to head back up north and play for the 76'ers or Knicks (they're going to be HUGE players in free agency next summer) where he might have a chance of contending for a championship.

[fatlever]

So what is the magic number that would be the ceiling for keeping him? 1 penny more than Batum? Conley?

[amcoolio]

League is trending towards your entire lineup being

6'6" to 6'10"
athletic
defender
shooter
ball handler
passer

And you have to have at least 4 of those 5 qualities to go along with the size


Unless you have Chris Paul or Steph Curry (healthy) level talent. Lets mix it up and do something different. Trade while he still has max value. And I love the guy.

[JDR720]

what is the max for Kemba? 30m? I would be fine with 20-25m, thats the range for top/near top PG's. Would trade him if he doesn't take the extension though, we cant lose him for nothing.

[fatlever]

what is the max for Kemba? 30m? I would be fine with 20-25m, thats the range for top/near top PG's. Would trade him if he doesn't take the extension though, we cant lose him for nothing.

5/188 according to bonnell. is that right?

[LofJ]

If the team is intent on keeping Kemba he has to be paid more than Batum was, which was 5/120. That's the starting point.

[fatlever]

If the team is intent on keeping Kemba he has to be paid more than Batum was, which was 5/120. That's the starting point.

5/120,000,000.01

[Liver_Pooty]

Im torn.

[bravor]

Absolute max, no, but something in the 140/5 would not be overpaying considering his talent and other pg's in the league. Even at that price and barring injury, he would be still tradable since these kind of contracts should become more usual.

Just need to consider the lowry, irving and alike. Lillard is overpaid at 140/5 and there is no reason kemba should get less. He would get more elsewhere(since there are many takers), and not necessary for less than 4 years.

His extension will click in once the team has restored flexibility and hopefully developed the best prospects.

I know for my part i will have no interest in following this team without Kemba.

[HornetJail]

what is the max for Kemba? 30m? I would be fine with 20-25m, thats the range for top/near top PG's. Would trade him if he doesn't take the extension though, we cant lose him for nothing.

5/188 according to bonnell. is that right?

Yup. Projected cap is $108M in 2018-19, which means a starting salary of 30% of the cap is $32.4M. Add 4 more years at max 8% raises and we're looking at $187,920,000 over five years. No other team can offer more than 4 years, $139.32M .

[JDR720]

what is the max for Kemba? 30m? I would be fine with 20-25m, thats the range for top/near top PG's. Would trade him if he doesn't take the extension though, we cant lose him for nothing.

5/188 according to bonnell. is that right?

Thats almost 40m per year. screw that.

I dont think any one offers the max at that price. who are the teams that could be interested with cap space to sign him? cant be more than a few.

[316Hornets]

Kemba is going to get max. He's playing AS level bball on this team. He's better than Wall and is a top 10 pg easily. In his prime and durable.

[stinger14]

Kemba is going to get max. He's playing AS level bball on this team. He's better than Wall and is a top 10 pg easily. In his prime and durable.

I actually think he is right there for top 5

[SeanBobcats]

I'll say it again even though it's been said by others in this thread multiple times. I love Kemba. I remember the day we drafted him and how excited I was. Never was I happier with one of my teams' decisions than that moment. Early in his career, I was very iffy on him turning into the player he is today. His work ethic on and off the court allowed him to turn many of those long 2's he always shot into 3's, and he also became a magician with the ball. Top 5 handler in the league. He has both of these elite skills (shooting and handling), and that's without mentioning his consistently high assist/TO ratio and the effort and smarts he has on defense despite a lack of physical tools and never being known as a defender.

I can go on forever about what I love about him, but with all that said, we have to cash in on our assets before it's too late. Sit down with Kemba and thank him for everything he's done for the city of Charlotte and the loyalty he's shown to the team. Send him out on a good note with a chance to thrive elsewhere.

This roster simply cannot compete with the continuous improvement of the eastern conference. We have no chance against Boston, Philly, or Milwaukee for the next couple of years, and there still can be other teams that emerge. Let Borrego develop the young players that we will have next season, get a good draft pick, and go from there

[LofJ]

I'll say it again even though it's been said by others in this thread multiple times. I love Kemba. I remember the day we drafted him and how excited I was. Never was I happier with one of my teams' decisions than that moment. Early in his career, I was very iffy on him turning into the player he is today. His work ethic on and off the court allowed him to turn many of those long 2's he always shot into 3's, and he also became a magician with the ball. Top 5 handler in the league. He has both of these elite skills (shooting and handling), and that's without mentioning his consistently high assist/TO ratio and the effort and smarts he has on defense despite a lack of physical tools and never being known as a defender.

I can go on forever about what I love about him, but with all that said, we have to cash in on our assets before it's too late. Sit down with Kemba and thank him for everything he's done for the city of Charlotte and the loyalty he's shown to the team. Send him out on a good note with a chance to thrive elsewhere.

This roster simply cannot compete with the continuous improvement of the eastern conference. We have no chance against Boston, Philly, or Milwaukee for the next couple of years, and there still can be other teams that emerge. Let Borrego develop the young players that we will have next season, get a good draft pick, and go from there

I'd And2 this post if I could, well said.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Charlotte can't afford to let go of a star player. I'm not as concerned about the upcoming season, but they need to do what they can to clear room a year from now. This is why Dwight isn't a terrible piece for the current situation. Batum feels like a lost cause, but if they can move one of those three middling deals (Marvin, MKG, Zeller), I see no reason why they can't add some quality pieces and then re-sign Kemba with his Bird rights.

Of course that puts a lot of pressure on the new braintrust to put together a strong 2018 with mostly the same team, but they'll likely have to do so in order to keep Kemba. I also don't think it'll take a full max.

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[catch20two]

Trade him. It’s whats best for both parties individually, Kemba and the Hornets. Hopefully we’d have the decency to try to trade him somewhere he wants to be as if he has a trade clause. We owe Kemba that much since it’s not his fault we’re trading him. It’s Cho and Clifford fault.