2018 Trade Ideas thread

[TheGOATWill]

Would have to sign him if he's available of course. I mean imagine rocking a lineup of George, Kawhi/Lebron and Cousins, especially if we have our young core in tact. We'd be contenders surely.

Acquiring a 3rd max guy would take a trade. A package including Deng is going to cost at least one of the young players (probably Ingram), and 2 firsts. Without Deng, they would have to add 2 out of Kuzma, Lonzo and Hart. If everything fell into place, it might look like Lonzo, PG, Kawhi, Boogie, an MLE stretch 4, a few holdovers and ring chasers on vet minimum. Can that group beat GS?

[BBBKobe]

Cousins wont even be back until February. If he wants to sign for the vet min, then he can come right along.

[Trips71]

Would have to sign him if he's available of course. I mean imagine rocking a lineup of George, Kawhi/Lebron and Cousins, especially if we have our young core in tact. We'd be contenders surely.

Acquiring a 3rd max guy would take a trade. A package including Deng is going to cost at least one of the young players (probably Ingram), and 2 firsts. Without Deng, they would have to add 2 out of Kuzma, Lonzo and Hart. If everything fell into place, it might look like Lonzo, PG, Kawhi, Boogie, an MLE stretch 4, a few holdovers and ring chasers on vet minimum. Can that group beat GS?

Although the Deng contract is terrible, I don't think it would cost Ingram and 2 Firsts to move. The equally bad Mozgov contract didn't cost that to move. People thought the Clarkson contract would cost a 1st to move, and it didn't (we actually got a 1st). Even star players being traded didn't cost that much. The trades of DMC and PG were had for far less than Ingram and two 1sts.

[Kilroy]

Cousins is the kind of player guys like PG13 and LeBron say they want to play with (no player wants to believe any injury is career limiting) but he's the kind of player the FO should dig in their heels on... Because if a 'super team' is going to be really super, it needs a FO that's willing to blow it all up rather than accepting albatross 'superstars'...
I think PG is fairly committed to coming to LA... But if passing on Cousins means we lose out on LeBron, I'd be fine with that and preserving cap for a run at Davis.

[IcyVeins]

Even if Cousins came back fully fit, does he or even Lebron fit Luke's offense???

[lebron stopper]

Deng can be stretched and disposed of, Derozan is a commitment you can’t get rid of without finding the next sucker.

I'm just curious, are you guys still looking at ways to offload Luol Deng or is the Lakers FO going to stretch his remaining salary for 5 years?

If, say, a team like Dallas offered LA an equally sized expiring contract like Wesley Matthews ($18,622,513) for Luol Deng ($18,000,000) + just one of Kyle Kuzma or Josh Hart + absolutely nothing else, would you guys do that? Would you guys even consider that trade?

[Kilroy]

Even if Cousins came back fully fit, does he or even Lebron fit Luke's offense???

Cousins fits no offense... He's basically been allowed to do whatever he wants on the court to this point... Which is why he hasn't been super successful. He's a versatile big body, but his main matchup problem is his size and if he focused more on maximizing that rather than trying to be everything, he'd be a lot more dominant.
But I'm a hard pass on Cousins at this point... Not sure how any smart team can dump a truck load of cap space on him.

LeBron can play in any offense, but he's so good, you build the offense around him...

Long story short, if we get more than just Paul George, Luke's going to have to reinvent himself and this team.

[IcyVeins]

Even if Cousins came back fully fit, does he or even Lebron fit Luke's offense???

Cousins fits no offense... He's basically been allowed to do whatever he wants on the court to this point... Which is why he hasn't been super successful. He's a versatile big body, but his main matchup problem is his size and if he focused more on maximizing that rather than trying to be everything, he'd be a lot more dominant.
But I'm a hard pass on Cousins at this point... Not sure how any smart team can dump a truck load of cap space on him.

LeBron can play in any offense, but he's so good, you build the offense around him...

Long story short, if we get more than just Paul George, Luke's going to have to reinvent himself and this team.

So, a potential laker super team would mean the end of Luke Walton essentially.

[ak7]

Deng can be stretched and disposed of, Derozan is a commitment you can’t get rid of without finding the next sucker.

I'm just curious, are you guys still looking at ways to offload Luol Deng or is the Lakers FO going to stretch his remaining salary for 5 years?

If, say, a team like Dallas offered LA an equally sized expiring contract like Wesley Matthews ($18,622,513) for Luol Deng ($18,000,000) + just one of Kyle Kuzma or Josh Hart + absolutely nothing else, would you guys do that? Would you guys even consider that trade?

I don't think the Lakers would consider that trade, otherwise Deng would have been moved already. Especially without having some type of FA committment from multiple players.

[Kilroy]

Even if Cousins came back fully fit, does he or even Lebron fit Luke's offense???

Cousins fits no offense... He's basically been allowed to do whatever he wants on the court to this point... Which is why he hasn't been super successful. He's a versatile big body, but his main matchup problem is his size and if he focused more on maximizing that rather than trying to be everything, he'd be a lot more dominant.
But I'm a hard pass on Cousins at this point... Not sure how any smart team can dump a truck load of cap space on him.

LeBron can play in any offense, but he's so good, you build the offense around him...

Long story short, if we get more than just Paul George, Luke's going to have to reinvent himself and this team.

So, a potential laker super team would mean the end of Luke Walton essentially.

Only if you believe Luke is a weak-sister and can only coach a single game plan... I don't.

Remember, Luke already coached a super team... GSW... And they universally loved him and he had a dominant record.

As long as Magic and Pelinka establish very early and very loudly that Luke has their support in conflicts with any players, I believe Luke can coach anyone...

Anyone with the possible exception of Demarcus Cousins... Because I'm not sure Cousins is coachable...

[Ball so hard]

Deng can be stretched and disposed of, Derozan is a commitment you can’t get rid of without finding the next sucker.

I'm just curious, are you guys still looking at ways to offload Luol Deng or is the Lakers FO going to stretch his remaining salary for 5 years?

If, say, a team like Dallas offered LA an equally sized expiring contract like Wesley Matthews ($18,622,513) for Luol Deng ($18,000,000) + just one of Kyle Kuzma or Josh Hart + absolutely nothing else, would you guys do that? Would you guys even consider that trade?

I don't get this trade. At best it's a lateral move. Since Deng doesn't play, we would essentially be trading Kuzma or Hart for Wesley Matthews. Kuzma is also better than Matthews at this point. Seems to me Dallas should be the team to throw in a sweetener for any Matthews related trade.

Edit: Didn't realize Matthews contract is one year shorter. This trade is still not worth it in my view, unless we know for sure we can sign Kawi outright next summer.

[Kilroy]

Deng can be stretched and disposed of, Derozan is a commitment you can’t get rid of without finding the next sucker.

I'm just curious, are you guys still looking at ways to offload Luol Deng or is the Lakers FO going to stretch his remaining salary for 5 years?

If, say, a team like Dallas offered LA an equally sized expiring contract like Wesley Matthews ($18,622,513) for Luol Deng ($18,000,000) + just one of Kyle Kuzma or Josh Hart + absolutely nothing else, would you guys do that? Would you guys even consider that trade?

I don't get this trade. At best it's a lateral move. Since Deng doesn't play, we would essentially be trading Kuzma or Hart for Wesley Matthews. Kuzma is also better than Matthews at this point. Seems to me Dallas should be the team to throw in a sweetener for any Matthews related trade.

Edit: Didn't realize Matthews contract is one year shorter. This trade is still not worth it in my view, unless we know for sure we can sign Kawi outright next summer.

Well, the problem we're facing is this season not next season, unless we can get Randle to sign a 1yr QO, and defer his contract discussion for a year... If that were the case, and like the original trade stated, it was Kuzma OR Hart and Deng for Mathews, then I'd dump Hart to open up cap space next season.
But I agree... I don't dump Kuzma unless there was a way to get something good back AND get rid of Deng...

[TheRealKaboom]

Taytum Mithcell those guys are stars. and Yeah everybody is saying how great Taytum is and he's great and how we should've taken him.

Tatum averaged 13.9/5/1.6 on the season. Those numbers are pathetic given all the minutes and opportunity he was handed. How does that make him a star?

[TylersLakers]

Deng can be stretched and disposed of, Derozan is a commitment you can’t get rid of without finding the next sucker.

I'm just curious, are you guys still looking at ways to offload Luol Deng or is the Lakers FO going to stretch his remaining salary for 5 years?

If, say, a team like Dallas offered LA an equally sized expiring contract like Wesley Matthews ($18,622,513) for Luol Deng ($18,000,000) + just one of Kyle Kuzma or Josh Hart + absolutely nothing else, would you guys do that? Would you guys even consider that trade?

I don't think the Lakers would attach Kuzma or Hart, but they would attach the Cleveland 1st rounder.

And I would do that deal. Matthews could be a contributor next season for us.

[Dloading99]

Cousins

I was right on that and told you he wanted to come here. Cousins wants the money. he got pissed at New Orleans when they started talking crazy about paying him. and I told yall mid season. New Orleans didn't want to pay him a max or near a max after paying AD. they like how AD plays without him. and they weren't giving Boggie the money. so if New Orleans wasn't paying him he was going to look at L.A. Show him the money.

You are getting a established Low post scorer star. who can shoot it at the three. as I stated before he's never been Shawn Kemp.

Now The real place and you'll see more rumblings is if San Antonio really wants to trade Kawaii. They'll ship him to Phoenix. that's the team they like and phoenix already popped off about trading the pick. Translation. if yall want to Move Kawaii we are open.

This is what gets that done Josh Jackson small forward two way player to replace Kawaii and that Beautiful number one pick that becomes Deyandre Ayton the next Tim Duncan. that popovich can coach. San Antonio likes their bigs. and this one can be molded into a hall of famer.

Now Do the Spurs like Dankichkch would he come for them. I think he would popovich likes the European players. he's the next great point guard in san Antonio after parker. so their are two great players at the top of the board for the spurs that they like. those trade scenarios are way better then any team can offer for Kawaii. so if you want to talk kawaii talk free agency.


Stop talking about trading your young players. Rodney pete at it again. well trade Ingram and Lonzo fred rogan talking that crap like he was talking about trading Russell for Paul George. just keep the young players. once again look at Boston look at Golden State. let your young players develop.


Do you guys like Donic would you trade Lonzo to sacramento for the number two pick and select Donic I would I think he's the perfect point guard for us. perfect point guard for Magic 6,8" can shoot. can run a team. I think he doesn't want to go to Sacramento and can force his way to L.A. I think the Clippers will trade up and get him. but the Lakers can get in it. he's a Bill Duffy guy. But yeah Lakers if you have a shot at Ayton Donic or Porter trade up and get him. trade Lonzo. but I don't think those teams would trade for him.


As for Taytum Kobe's already talked about how great he is. and in the playoffs he's been a superstar. Lonzo has to get to that level to justify the pick. come back being a great scorer then okay all good with the pick. be Curry. have that Curry improvement. make your jump shot one of the best in the league. Rob talks about the Fitness and that's the problem right there. we aren't trying to make him a Venice Beach guy. we just want a point guard who can make his jump shots. he should be working with Miles Simon everyday on his shooting. You can talk about this guy and that guy. but Lonzo has to get his shooting together.


Lebron comes to L.A. he might just say hey he's played great basketball and won championships and he wants to just come to L.A. for his sons he wants to relax. and he might just say he wants to come to L.A. to be in a good situation where he can enjoy basketball who knows the Dan Gilbert stuff he's done with that team.

And Rodney Pete Cousins never said he didn't want to come to the Lakers. he was playing for the Kings what's he supposed to say Yeah I want to be a Laker. He can come to the Lakers if he wants. he's in L.A. all off season. let the guy come to the Lakers.


Brandon Ingram our best basketball player and is the star of the team.

[LAKESHOW]

But DLO, you never once mentioned the Achilles heel to your argument.

[BBBKobe]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-pelinka-20180518-story.html

I can see Johnson trading Ingram for Kawhi.

We best trade Ball before we Ingram.

[danfantastk32]

Now The real place and you'll see more rumblings is if San Antonio really wants to trade Kawaii. They'll ship him to Phoenix. that's the team they like and phoenix already popped off about trading the pick. Translation. if yall want to Move Kawaii we are open.

This is what gets that done Josh Jackson small forward two way player to replace Kawaii and that Beautiful number one pick that becomes Deyandre Ayton the next Tim Duncan. that popovich can coach. San Antonio likes their bigs. and this one can be molded into a hall of famer.

Why in the world does Phoenix do this, if Kawhi won't commit? Spurs hold very little cards here. Kawhi has 1 year left, and he can walk. Phoenix ain't giving up the #1 pick for a 1-year rental. No way no how.

[Dloading99]

This is all contingent if Kawaii would sign an Extension with Phoenix.

which he might. he doesn't have beef with them. he's an honorable guy. if they trade for him and pay him he can sign a contract.

Phoenix is closer to L.A. he's from Riverside. it's on the way. it's hot. great weather. Scottsdale Golf. Players like playing in Phoenix. College town.

He's with Booker. and a great coach. so that's if he would be a sun. but who knows.

I think the Laker trade for Kawaii thing is reckless.

I wouldn't trade Ingram he's looking like he's on his way to superstardom. you just don't trade guys like that. Boston didn't trade Jaylon Brown. so you want to trade the guy who's in the same draft as Ben Simmons and Jaylon Brown. I want to keep him and develop him. that's the problem with the Lakers they are continuesly trading guys in and out and then players can't gell and develop together. Ingram has proved he can be a star and improve.

if there's anybody who can be traded it's Lonzo. didn't show improvement can't show ability to score. can move him before you can't move him. in this draft there are players who are going to be great players. Doncic Trae Young Deandre Ayton and Micheal Porter.

That's why I wanted to see Summer league cause I could see Right away if Lonzo got that scoring thing figured out.

[Pythagoras]

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-pelinka-20180518-story.html

I can see Johnson trading Ingram for Kawhi.

We best trade Ball before we Ingram.

Sigh, I wish these guys would commit to team building over star chasing.