Almost off-season discussion! Trades/Free Agency Ep. 9

King4Day · Post #221 » by **King4Day** » Sat May 19, 2018 12:42 am

Anyone see this?
I know most say they wouldn't do this, what are peoples thoughts?

For me, the biggest issues I'd have with Towns is that he's not a good defender (for some reason) and is about to get a max extension too.

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Post #222 » by **Qwigglez** » Sat May 19, 2018 12:44 am

jcsunsfan wrote:KAT is a distraction. We are really hungry I know. But push the burger aside. The steak is coming in a few minutes.

I’m vegan so the salad gets me going.

Villalobos · Post #223 » by **Villalobos** » Sat May 19, 2018 1:19 am

I wonder if Thibs ICE has ICE anything ICE to ICE do ICE with ICE this?

MathiasPW · Post #224 » by **MathiasPW** » Sat May 19, 2018 1:23 am

KAT is from Kentucky. Never forget our Kentucky love affair.

So is Cousins. See where I am going with this?

Book1Nation · Post #225 » by **Book1Nation** » Sat May 19, 2018 1:39 am

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Post #226 » by **bwgood77** » Sat May 19, 2018 1:39 am

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Kjdills13 · Post #227 » by **Kjdills13** » Sat May 19, 2018 1:46 am

Suns- KAT, 9th pick,
Knicks- 1st pick, M.Chriss
Timberwolves- porzingas,

Suns get a center, then can trade 16/9, and whatever fillers they need up in the draft to draft young.

Knicks get #1 and a solid young big
Timberwolves- swap good young bigs BC there's is disgruntled

Young
Booker
Warren
Josh Jackson
Towns

That's a lineup that can do what the warriors did.

kennydorglas · Post #228 » by **kennydorglas** » Sat May 19, 2018 1:46 am

DBook is just trolling.
But who knows? lol

Gorilla Warfare · Post #229 » by **Gorilla Warfare** » Sat May 19, 2018 1:52 am

Booker and KAT are entering God level trolling right now.

Book1Nation · Post #230 » by **Book1Nation** » Sat May 19, 2018 1:53 am

Oh man, KAT would be a dream. If we can somehow keep Josh Jackson in that trade, Booker/Jackson/Towns would be amazing and we would become a premier FA destination with 3 of the best young players in the game.

8on · Post #231 » by **8on** » Sat May 19, 2018 2:02 am

Y’all beat me to it. :lol:

Blonde · Post #232 » by **Blonde** » Sat May 19, 2018 2:03 am

Josh and 16 for KAT, take Doncic at 1. No way I’m trading 1 for KAT.

Mischa · Post #233 » by **Mischa** » Sat May 19, 2018 2:09 am

Koko with KAT....dangerous

GeraldsGreenery · Post #234 » by **GeraldsGreenery** » Sat May 19, 2018 2:09 am

Blonde wrote:Josh and 16 for KAT, take Doncic at 1. No way I’m trading 1 for KAT.

he's already an all-star tho. He's 22 years old. Ayton is no guarantee, could Ayton be better than KAT? Absolutely, but no guarantee's. If KAT was 25 or older I would say no, but he's 22. This trade would make me think real hard.

Calvin Klein · Post #235 » by **Calvin Klein** » Sat May 19, 2018 2:13 am

Blonde wrote:Josh and 16 for KAT, take Doncic at 1. No way I’m trading 1 for KAT.

I'd do this but no way they accept this

TeamTragic · Post #236 » by **TeamTragic** » Sat May 19, 2018 2:40 am

Blonde wrote:Josh and 16 for KAT, take Doncic at 1. No way I’m trading 1 for KAT.

How about we just keep Jackson. Draft Ayton/Doncic and move up in the draft.

YouTube · Post #237 » by **Kerrsed** » Sat May 19, 2018 2:40 am

Ok, ive thought long and hard on it and......i still dont know when it comes to KAT.

Look, last year we would have been creaming in our pants at the opportunity to get him, but the #1 overall pick changes things immensely.

Lets weigh out the Pro's and Con's.

PRO's
One of the best young bigs in the league.
Booker Bro #1
Will give us 20/10 pretty much every night
Good passer for a C
Great FT shooter for a C
Has 3 point range
Really no injury history
Has shown he belongs in the NBA (Isnt a bust)

CON's
Defense is suspect (And was so under one of the top defensive coaches)
Expecting a big payday (Just like Booker) on last year of rookie deal
Ayton is pretty much the same exact player, but more athletic and on a rookie contract
Judging from the experts, would cost us more than the #1 (Jackson;Maybe another pick)
New big money contract comes at the same time as Bookers new big money contract.
Doesnt have the built in UofA fanbase like Ayton (Not a con to me, but definitely to the FO and UofA Booster Sarver)
Cost (Yes im bringing it up again because its a big deal)

I seriously dont know if i could do it. Ayton gives us a more athletic version of the same exact player, but on a new contract that costs less and would be under our control for longer. And what would the Wolves be asking for? It starts at the #1 and would include players like Jackson and Bender or Warren. Probably another future pick thrown in as well. Is all that worth it when we can just draft Ayton and keep all those assets? But then again....for all we know Ayton could be a bust where we already know KAT isnt...but everyone says that Ayton is generational and has the lowest chance of being a bust. UGH!!!!

But what if it costs us less than what we are being told? When the Celtics name is brought up the trade being talked about is Brown/Tatum (or if Tatum is off the table) Brown/1st. If we could keep that top pick and Booker while giving up Jackson/#16/Warren/Future 1st would that = to the Celtics offer? WOuld that be worth it?

And who knows if KAT really is available? All thats really been said is that the Wolves fired his personal conditioning coach, so people are assuming that he isnt happy with that and in turn the Wolves arnt happy with him.

The more questions i answer the more questions appear.

King Ken · Post #238 » by **King Ken** » Sat May 19, 2018 2:46 am

Kerrsed wrote:Ok, ive thought long and hard on it and......i still dont know when it comes to KAT.

Look, last year we would have been creaming in our pants at the opportunity to get him, but the #1 overall pick changes things immensely.

Lets weigh out the Pro's and Con's.

PRO's
One of the best young bigs in the league.
Booker Bro #1
Will give us 20/10 pretty much every night
Good passer for a C
Great FT shooter for a C
Has 3 point range
Really no injury history
Has shown he belongs in the NBA (Isnt a bust)

CON's
Defense is suspect (And was so under one of the top defensive coaches)
Expecting a big payday (Just like Booker) on last year of rookie deal
Ayton is pretty much the same exact player, but more athletic and on a rookie contract
Judging from the experts, would cost us more than the #1 (Jackson;Maybe another pick)
New big money contract comes at the same time as Bookers new big money contract.
Doesnt have the built in UofA fanbase like Ayton (Not a con to me, but definitely to the FO and UofA Booster Sarver)
Cost (Yes im bringing it up again because its a big deal)

I seriously dont know if i could do it. Ayton gives us a more athletic version of the same exact player, but on a new contract that costs less and would be under our control for longer. And what would the Wolves be asking for? It starts at the #1 and would include players like Jackson and Bender or Warren. Probably another future pick thrown in as well. Is all that worth it when we can just draft Ayton and keep all those assets? But then again....for all we know Ayton could be a bust where we already know KAT isnt...but everyone says that Ayton is generational and has the lowest chance of being a bust. UGH!!!!

But what if it costs us less than what we are being told? When the Celtics name is brought up the trade being talked about is Brown/Tatum (or if Tatum is off the table) Brown/1st. If we could keep that top pick and Booker while giving up Jackson/#16/Warren/Future 1st would that = to the Celtics offer? WOuld that be worth it?

And who knows if KAT really is available? All thats really been said is that the Wolves fired his personal conditioning coach, so people are assuming that he isnt happy with that and in turn the Wolves arnt happy with him.

The more questions i answer the more questions appear.

LOL, Ayton is not the same exact player. KAT is one of the top 10-12 players in the NBA. Ayton ain't nowhere near that.

bwoolf2 · Post #239 » by **bwoolf2** » Sat May 19, 2018 2:50 am

Kerrsed wrote:Ok, ive thought long and hard on it and......i still dont know when it comes to KAT.

Look, last year we would have been creaming in our pants at the opportunity to get him, but the #1 overall pick changes things immensely.

Lets weigh out the Pro's and Con's.

PRO's
One of the best young bigs in the league.
Booker Bro #1
Will give us 20/10 pretty much every night
Good passer for a C
Great FT shooter for a C
Has 3 point range
Really no injury history
Has shown he belongs in the NBA (Isnt a bust)

CON's
Defense is suspect (And was so under one of the top defensive coaches)
Expecting a big payday (Just like Booker) on last year of rookie deal
Ayton is pretty much the same exact player, but more athletic and on a rookie contract
Judging from the experts, would cost us more than the #1 (Jackson;Maybe another pick)
New big money contract comes at the same time as Bookers new big money contract.
Doesnt have the built in UofA fanbase like Ayton (Not a con to me, but definitely to the FO and UofA Booster Sarver)
Cost (Yes im bringing it up again because its a big deal)

I seriously dont know if i could do it. Ayton gives us a more athletic version of the same exact player, but on a new contract that costs less and would be under our control for longer. And what would the Wolves be asking for? It starts at the #1 and would include players like Jackson and Bender or Warren. Probably another future pick thrown in as well. Is all that worth it when we can just draft Ayton and keep all those assets? But then again....for all we know Ayton could be a bust where we already know KAT isnt...but everyone says that Ayton is generational and has the lowest chance of being a bust. UGH!!!!

But what if it costs us less than what we are being told? When the Celtics name is brought up the trade being talked about is Brown/Tatum (or if Tatum is off the table) Brown/1st. If we could keep that top pick and Booker while giving up Jackson/#16/Warren/Future 1st would that = to the Celtics offer? WOuld that be worth it?

And who knows if KAT really is available? All thats really been said is that the Wolves fired his personal conditioning coach, so people are assuming that he isnt happy with that and in turn the Wolves arnt happy with him.

The more questions i answer the more questions appear.

The last thing we need to do is put together a team of Bookers friends, just dont think that a good way to build a team. That and I personally wouldnt trade the #1 pick for him. Anthony Davis thats another story.

DirtyDez · Post #240 » by **DirtyDez** » Sat May 19, 2018 2:51 am

King Ken wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:Ok, ive thought long and hard on it and......i still dont know when it comes to KAT.

Look, last year we would have been creaming in our pants at the opportunity to get him, but the #1 overall pick changes things immensely.

Lets weigh out the Pro's and Con's.

PRO's
One of the best young bigs in the league.
Booker Bro #1
Will give us 20/10 pretty much every night
Good passer for a C
Great FT shooter for a C
Has 3 point range
Really no injury history
Has shown he belongs in the NBA (Isnt a bust)

CON's
Defense is suspect (And was so under one of the top defensive coaches)
Expecting a big payday (Just like Booker) on last year of rookie deal
Ayton is pretty much the same exact player, but more athletic and on a rookie contract
Judging from the experts, would cost us more than the #1 (Jackson;Maybe another pick)
New big money contract comes at the same time as Bookers new big money contract.
Doesnt have the built in UofA fanbase like Ayton (Not a con to me, but definitely to the FO and UofA Booster Sarver)
Cost (Yes im bringing it up again because its a big deal)

I seriously dont know if i could do it. Ayton gives us a more athletic version of the same exact player, but on a new contract that costs less and would be under our control for longer. And what would the Wolves be asking for? It starts at the #1 and would include players like Jackson and Bender or Warren. Probably another future pick thrown in as well. Is all that worth it when we can just draft Ayton and keep all those assets? But then again....for all we know Ayton could be a bust where we already know KAT isnt...but everyone says that Ayton is generational and has the lowest chance of being a bust. UGH!!!!

But what if it costs us less than what we are being told? When the Celtics name is brought up the trade being talked about is Brown/Tatum (or if Tatum is off the table) Brown/1st. If we could keep that top pick and Booker while giving up Jackson/#16/Warren/Future 1st would that = to the Celtics offer? WOuld that be worth it?

And who knows if KAT really is available? All thats really been said is that the Wolves fired his personal conditioning coach, so people are assuming that he isnt happy with that and in turn the Wolves arnt happy with him.

The more questions i answer the more questions appear.

LOL, Ayton is not the same exact player. KAT is one of the top 10-12 players in the NBA. Ayton ain't nowhere near that.

Top-12 player in terms of numbers or overall impact?