Around the NBA, Episode 39.0 "A New Hope"

Post #901 » by **DayofMourning** » Sat May 19, 2018 8:28 am

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I like how the guy who tries to break up the fight grabs one of the girls and basically allows her to get tagged a few more times without being able to protect herself....sheesh.

Bishop45 · Post #902 » by **Bishop45** » Sat May 19, 2018 9:29 am

Ayton/Booker/Jackson should be retro Jimmy/Wiggins/Towns in a few years

Post #903 » by **IggieCC** » Sat May 19, 2018 9:33 am

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not 100% sold but our Slovenian friends are in good hands

Post #904 » by **IggieCC** » Sat May 19, 2018 9:33 am

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Umbooki · Post #905 » by **Umbooki** » Sat May 19, 2018 10:17 am

DayofMourning wrote:
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hmmm

Would do that in a second if I were the Suns and it was an option.

That Suns defense with KAT and Booker?

We'd never lose to them again! You gotta make that trade and hope for the best, though.

Mos_Heat · Post #906 » by **Mos_Heat** » Sat May 19, 2018 10:22 am

Bishop45 wrote:Ayton/Booker/Jackson should be retro Jimmy/Wiggins/Towns in a few years

lol this is so true

Mos_Heat · Post #907 » by **Mos_Heat** » Sat May 19, 2018 10:37 am

KAT not going anywhere, my guess it's just a part on contract negotiations.

Would trade Hayward, Mem's pick, Sac's pick for him, if I'm Ainge

Mos_Heat · Post #908 » by **Mos_Heat** » Sat May 19, 2018 11:31 am

DayofMourning wrote:Would do that in a second if I were the Suns and it was an option.

Some guys on Suns board think differently lol

I would lose my MF mind. KAT is good, but he isn't AD good. I like Ayton's potential over KAT's potential. I know KAT is putting in work and closer to his potetial and is establish and all, and more of a sure thing than Ayton right now, but I'm just not enthralled with KAT. AD yes, KAT no!

Good grief. Ayton over KAT all day every day. No way. AD, I would consider it, but even he has an injury history that would bother me. Ayton has no health issues at all. Just make the pick. Yikes. Don't try to get cute.

there's also something to be said for homegrown talent and players that you drafted and cultivated rather than players that got established elsewhere and then they decided for whatever reason to move on from

Ayton gives us a more athletic version of the same exact player, but on a new contract that costs less and would be under our control for longer. And what would the Wolves be asking for? It starts at the #1 and would include players like Jackson and Bender or Warren. Probably another future pick thrown in as well. Is all that worth it when we can just draft Ayton and keep all those assets? But then again....for all we know Ayton could be a bust where we already know KAT isnt...but everyone says that Ayton is generational and has the lowest chance of being a bust. UGH!!!!

Considering there is no empirical data supporting that 5% and Ayton is a 1% specimen with skills, I'll take those odds. Again, not a fan of KAT and his soft slight build. Give Ayton 3 years to add more mass, he'd break skinny ass Capela in two. Long against long equals push, but long against muscle and long equals that's yo ass! Ask Mutombo and every other tall skinny C Shaq smashed.

Ayton could carry 10-15lbs of more muscle like nothing. I have never in my life seen a guy coming into the league at 19 with that size and build. Go look at all of the greats when they were in college and compare them to Ayton, not close.

Ewing, Duncan, Robinson, Davis, Kat, Gobert, Kareem, no one, again look at the tape. Most freaks are just athletes but Ayton is more than that and basketball is still new to him. The Greak Freak was the same type of guy coming out, but skinny as hell too. He went 15.

I'm cool on KAT.

Give up Ayton and watch him become an inside and outside dominant beast for someone else, because we could not wait 2-3 years, no thank you.

Looking a gift horse in the mouth...Maybe that's why the Suns never had a great center or number one pick. The gods knew we'd just trade him away.

Top tier Draft fever, dom

Bishop45 · Post #909 » by **Bishop45** » Sat May 19, 2018 11:49 am

They're all imaginary Franchise players at the draft stage, can't be mad at Suns fans for wanting to stay safe, new and hip than to put down real wages

Post #910 » by **JaysRule25** » Sat May 19, 2018 11:55 am

That Royal Wedding was littt

Bishop45 · Post #911 » by **Bishop45** » Sat May 19, 2018 12:11 pm

Don't like the idea of JJjr as a top pick but if PHX wants a big, I think JJjr and Bagz would be better fits for them. I'd Doncic and then worry about a big later tho... Although there's some real questions on whether he can be a 1

Post #912 » by **DayofMourning** » Sat May 19, 2018 7:09 pm

Bishop45 wrote:Don't like the idea of JJjr as a top pick but if PHX wants a big, I think JJjr and Bagz would be better fits for them. I'd Doncic and then worry about a big later tho... Although there's some real questions on whether he can be a 1

What about if PHX takes Ayton number one, then acquires another top five pick (Dallas maybe) with the numerous assets they have, and takes JJJ? Would be quite the combo.

Mos_Heat · Post #913 » by **Mos_Heat** » Sat May 19, 2018 7:13 pm

Bishop45 wrote:Don't like the idea of JJjr as a top pick but if PHX wants a big, I think JJjr and Bagz would be better fits for them. I'd Doncic and then worry about a big later tho... Although there's some real questions on whether he can be a 1

You mean a pg or a true №1 pick?

Mos_Heat · Post #914 » by **Mos_Heat** » Sat May 19, 2018 7:19 pm

Doncic and Bogdan could be fun. Trade Fox for Orlando's pick and draft Mikal.

Then try to get Randle

Bishop45 · Post #915 » by **Bishop45** » Sat May 19, 2018 7:22 pm

Mos_Heat wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:Don't like the idea of JJjr as a top pick but if PHX wants a big, I think JJjr and Bagz would be better fits for them. I'd Doncic and then worry about a big later tho... Although there's some real questions on whether he can be a 1

You mean a pg or a true №1 pick?

PG, feel like he's more likely a 2 in the league

GopherIt! · Post #916 » by **GopherIt!** » Sat May 19, 2018 8:08 pm

IggieCC wrote:
GopherIt! wrote:hard to root for any of these guys tbh.

as much as I dislike team goodboy, Robinson and Duncan were 100% class.

they don't make em like that anymore.

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so stupid goph

david kahn. worst gm in nba history.

Mos_Heat · Post #917 » by **Mos_Heat** » Sat May 19, 2018 8:37 pm

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The one thing I don't like about Luka is that his step backs look very Harden-esque

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Mos_Heat · Post #918 » by **Mos_Heat** » Sat May 19, 2018 8:39 pm

Bishop45 wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:Don't like the idea of JJjr as a top pick but if PHX wants a big, I think JJjr and Bagz would be better fits for them. I'd Doncic and then worry about a big later tho... Although there's some real questions on whether he can be a 1

You mean a pg or a true №1 pick?

PG, feel like he's more likely a 2 in the league

Does it even matter in this day and age?

Post #919 » by **DayofMourning** » Sat May 19, 2018 8:57 pm

Mos_Heat wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:You mean a pg or a true №1 pick?

PG, feel like he's more likely a 2 in the league

Does it even matter in this day and age?

Thank you, Mos.

The defined positions that we were raised on don't make a ton of sense anymore. Trying to pigeonhole players into age old positions is so fruitless.

I look at guys in a broader range these days. Can they run the show? Then they are a point. If not, are they perimeter based? Then they are a wing. Do they spend the majority of their time down low? Then they're a post player.

Mos_Heat · Post #920 » by **Mos_Heat** » Sat May 19, 2018 9:34 pm

DayofMourning wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:
PG, feel like he's more likely a 2 in the league

Does it even matter in this day and age?

Thank you, Mos.

The defined positions that we were raised on don't make a ton of sense anymore. Trying to pigeonhole players into age old positions is so fruitless.

I look at guys in a broader range these days. Can they run the show? Then they are a point. If not, are they perimeter based? Then they are a wing. Do they spend the majority of their time down low? Then they're a post player.

Pretty much. For example, Cleaningtheglass doesn't have classic basketball positions. Instead they have guards, wings and bigs