Is jaylen Brown becoming untouchable in the offseason?

[TheMartian]

One thing he needs improvement on though, is backing up his talk with a good game.

Case in point, game 3, ECF.

[thelarrybirdx]

Brown is utterly elite at getting where he wants to be, in a hurry, with his body under control.

What he does when he gets there is, at best, very good.

I don't think he needs a release exactly as quick as Klay Thompson's to be as good a shooter as Klay Thompson, but he does need to narrow the gap. I think he's a lot closer to that than many people think.

I think his passing will take care of itself when defenses key on him enough that he SHOULD pass out of coverage.

And I think Brown's defense is already underrated. When opposing players go off against the Celtics, how often is it somebody on whom Brown had primary defensive responsibility?

One of Brown's strengths is the ability to knock down shots with a hand in his face. Very good ability to have for a 3 point shooter.

[Jaqua92]

I was foolishly brainwashed and was wearing the green goggles through game 1 and 2. Fortunately, I took those annoying things off.

No. Brown is not untouchable. That said, I dont trade him, cause there isnt anything available.

KAT? No. Kawhi? Too many variables. If its a healthy Kawhi, and he will commit to Boston, then I will pack Jaylen Brown's bags myself.

Otherwise, I roll with this core

[soxfan2003]

I see Brown as pretty untouchable this summer when you factor in the players that may be available for him.

High Draft pick? Unless Ainge is willing to dump Kyrie/Hayward/Horford to the highest bidders which I doubt he is willing to do, I can't see him trading Brown for a pick this year. I just don't see Ainge wanting to lower the Celtics championship odds next year in any realistic Brown deal.

Towns? Unless JB increases his stock a significant amount in the NBA finals, it would take more than JB and I doubt Ainge would want to pay much more than JB for a center with real woes on the defensive end. It is hard for most SG's like Brown to put up massive all around numbers like a Towns but the way I see it Butler was the wolves real MVP this year and Brown has a chance to actually be better than current day Butler. Alonzo Mourning wasn't my favorite center or anything like that but this Celtics team has enough outside shooting with Kyrie/Hayward/Tatum that a center like a young Alonzo Mourning is a better fit than Towns. If Celtics had Gary Payton at PG instead of Kyrie Irving, perhaps we are talking about a different story.

Simmons? Makes some sense for Philly from a basketball POV if the 76ers are adding Lebron but otherwise, they may want to take their chances on the upside of Simmons. Nevertheless, I just don't see Philly gm making a major trade with Ainge anytime soon.

Anthony Davis? Not being traded this summer or probably at next years trading deadline either. 2 years from now maybe a different story but right now Davis not available and it would obviously take much more than JB right now to get Davis in the ver unlikely event the Pelicans traded him this offseason.

Westbrook? Ainge wouldn't do it given the Westbrook's age and I don't blame Ainge. This is the type of move you make if you want Stevens to quit.

Leonard or Porzingis? I think the Celtics are in strong enough position that they don't need to gamble on players that appear to be significant health risks. Yes, JB in over 95% likelihood won't have a first half of his career as good as Leonard but realistically the next 5-6 years of JB's career could be better than Leonard's next 5-6 years. I suspect Ainge is 100% okay with not getting Leonard but he just doesn't want the 76ers to get him without Philly having to pay a very high price.

[Green_teamer]

Brown is only 21. He's made huge leaps froM last year to this year and I envision the same next year.

[return2glory]

Kyle Korver made him very touchable.

When Kyle Korver shuts you down, blocks two of your shots, strips another, come on?

The expectations that people out of Jaylen is way too much. He has a long watch to go to even be a all-star. Baby steps.

[Revived]

Kyle Korver made him very touchable.

You seen his eyes and hair? He makes a lot of guys touchable.

[GoGreen]

Kid had 25/6/2 tonight and seemed to be the only guy in the 4th taking charge. How about more aggressive play from Al or Tatum? Let's see Rozier hit some shots, he has gone cold. Jaylen was not great but neither was anyone else. This team needs to pick up the intensity.

[Fencer reregistered]

Kyle Korver made him very touchable.

When Kyle Korver shuts you down, blocks two of your shots, strips another, come on?

The expectations that people out of Jaylen is way too much. He has a long watch to go to even be a all-star. Baby steps.

Too bad the Cs didn't have one or two more players shut down for 25 points.

[UNCBlue012]

He's been awful the last two games, but I still think it's unlikely he's traded. That being said, Korver is, umm, well not great; so Jaylen needs to get his head out of his ass.

[jmr07019]

Kyle Korver made him very touchable.

When Kyle Korver shuts you down, blocks two of your shots, strips another, come on?

The expectations that people out of Jaylen is way too much. He has a long watch to go to even be a all-star. Baby steps.

Brown has shown these playoffs that he is already one of the better players in the east. Putting up 18 ppg on 52% from 2 and 43% from 3, with excellent defense, leading his teams to wins, while playing some of the games on a gimpy hamstring.

He's really not that far away from being an allstar. East all stars this year:

Guards - Irving, Beal, Dragic, Walker, Wall, Lowry
Wings - LeBRon, Derozan, Oladipo
Bogs - Drummond, Love, Porzingis, Horford, Embiid, Giannis

Brown isn't that far off guys like Beal, Dragic, Walker, Lowry when you factor in defense. Who is Brown's competition? Middleton, Hayward and Aaron Gordon sure. After that? Teams like Brooklyn, Atlanta, Charlotte, Chicago, Knicks got nothing on the wing.

Horford won't be an allstar for much longer either. Simmons likely replaces him. Guys like Drummond and Love impact on winning is questionable.

Brown's biggest obstacle is likely a lack of touches due to the immense talent on his own team.

[ddb]

Kyle Korver made him very touchable.

When Kyle Korver shuts you down, blocks two of your shots, strips another, come on?

The expectations that people out of Jaylen is way too much. He has a long watch to go to even be a all-star. Baby steps.

Brown has shown these playoffs that he is already one of the better players in the east. Putting up 18 ppg on 52% from 2 and 43% from 3, with excellent defense, leading his teams to wins, while playing some of the games on a gimpy hamstring.

He's really not that far away from being an allstar. East all stars this year:

Guards - Irving, Beal, Dragic, Walker, Wall, Lowry
Wings - LeBRon, Derozan, Oladipo
Bogs - Drummond, Love, Porzingis, Horford, Embiid, Giannis

Brown isn't that far off guys like Beal, Dragic, Walker, Lowry when you factor in defense. Who is Brown's competition? Middleton, Hayward and Aaron Gordon sure. After that? Teams like Brooklyn, Atlanta, Charlotte, Chicago, Knicks got nothing on the wing.

Horford won't be an allstar for much longer either. Simmons likely replaces him. Guys like Drummond and Love impact on winning is questionable.

Brown's biggest obstacle is likely a lack of touches due to the immense talent on his own team.

I sound like a broken record....DO NOT TRADE BROWN OR TATUM FOR ANYONE NOT NAMED ANTHONY DAVIS.....okay, okay..Perhaps Brown for KAT lol

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[Fencer reregistered]

He's been awful the last two games, but I still think it's unlikely he's traded. That being said, Korver is, umm, well not great; so Jaylen needs to get his head out of his ass.

Nobody's saying he had a great Game 4. But if 25 points on 23 shots (plus 6 rebounds & 2 steals) -- which was the second-best stat line on the team after Rozier's -- is "awful", what kind of performance would have been "so-so"?

[Fantaxp7]

Jaylen simply was too amped up at the start of that game...He wanted to use elite athleticism from the get go and just wasn't thinking enough. Game 3 really got to his head.

Later in the game when things slowed down, maybe because the Cavs are old, he was able to work. He needs to know that while yes his athleticism is a deadly weapon vs these guys they can also find other ways to take him out of his game. I have every bit of confidence that Jaylen will look more poised in the future.

[AzogTheDefilier]

21 under team control and fits nicely that his salary bump comes when Big Al's goes off. Don't tinker with this team. Just bring back the injured players: Kyrie, Hayward and Theis and bring back Baynes. I am not even sure you have to bring back Smart.

18/19 Cs.

PG: Kyrie, Rozier
SG: Hayward, Draft Pick
SF: Tatum, Morris
PF: Brown, Theis, Yab, Semi
C: Al, Baynes

You can go big with Al, Morris, Tatum, Brown and Hayward on the court at the same time. You can go very small with Kyrie, Rozier, Hayward, Brown and Tatum. Match ups galore, depth and salary flex. Don't change anything. I am not even sure you have to bring back Baynes.

[ddb]

21 under team control and fits nicely that his salary bump comes when Big Al's goes off. Don't tinker with this team. Just bring back the injured players: Kyrie, Hayward and Theis and bring back Baynes. I am not even sure you have to bring back Smart.

18/19 Cs.

PG: Kyrie, Rozier
SG: Hayward, Draft Pick
SF: Tatum, Morris
PF: Brown, Theis, Yab, Semi
C: Al, Baynes

You can go big with Al, Morris, Tatum, Brown and Hayward on the court at the same time. You can go very small with Kyrie, Rozier, Hayward, Brown and Tatum. Match ups galore, depth and salary flex. Don't change anything. I am not even sure you have to bring back Baynes.

If KAT is really on the market I wonder if Minny would be open to Brown/Kings19 for KAT. Would they want more? Tough to gauge what KAT's value is right now. I love Brown but I'd do that deal. It really balances things out nicely for the Celtics.

Kyrie-Hayward-Tatum-Horford-Towns
Rozier-Smart-Semi-Morris-Theis

I think Horford/Towns is a mentor-ship made in Heaven. Kyrie-Hayward-Tatum-Horford would make Towns life SO MUCH easier. Opposing teams would have an impossible time trying to slow that team down...

[Wes-J]

Kyle Korver made him very touchable.

When Kyle Korver shuts you down, blocks two of your shots, strips another, come on?

The expectations that people out of Jaylen is way too much. He has a long watch to go to even be a all-star. Baby steps.

You're embarrassing yourself. You can have Korver and the rest of us take Brown. Korver was walking in the light and even you can't figure that out.

He's here to stay. Deal with it.

[AzogTheDefilier]

Kyle Korver made him very touchable.

When Kyle Korver shuts you down, blocks two of your shots, strips another, come on?

The expectations that people out of Jaylen is way too much. He has a long watch to go to even be a all-star. Baby steps.

You're embarrassing yourself. You can have Korver and the rest of us take Brown. Korver was walking in the light and even you can't figure that out.

He's here to stay. Deal with it.

Korver made some nice plays but Brown has owned him. Korver is a wily veteran with a textbook outside J. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. There are very few players I am moving Brown for at this juncture.

#1) Great two way player and I mean great. He could be elite if he improves his J and FTs just a bit and he will as this is just his 2nd year. He should be a junior in college!

#2) He is an A+ athlete.

#3) He is a great teammate and highly confident.

#4) I like his dynamic with Tatum.

#5) Salary cap flex. He is cheap and doesn't become expensive for a long time!

[CelticsPride18]

Brown would have finished with 30 if he didn’t miss easy layups and dunks.

[AzogTheDefilier]

Brown would have finished with 30 if he didn’t miss easy layups and dunks.

Which is understandable for a 2nd year player on the road.