Most surprising pick or slide?

[brackdan70]

My biggest guess as of now would be Wendell Carter sliding out of the lottery. There could be a shake-up within the lottery picks but not so much. My other deeper guesses would be Hamidou Diallo and Tony Carr in the late first round, Jared Vanderbilt in the mid 2nd round, Billy Preston and Angel Delgado in the late 2nd round.

Why do you think Carter might slide?

Well, one is there are a lot of guys climbing up and so some players that are slotted higher would go down. Second is, I just don't see him that far apart from the other bigs that are slotted below him - Robert Williams, Mitchell Robinson, Jontay Porter. If a team is to work these big men on a single setting, I think Carter would look average. He's a more traditional big than Porter, but I don't think he is stronger than Williams and Robinson.

That's just my guess though.The other guys in the lottery seems solid, aside from the possibility of minor shake-up's.

Hmm I disagree. I feel Carter is quite a bit better than all those dudes

[Patsfan1081]

I predict Robert Williams and Troy Brown to jump, and Collin Sexton and Michael Porter to drop a decent amount.

Really I think the opposite for Williams, did he show much improvement in his soph year? Porter is interesting, I wonder why he met with both the Rockets and Celtics.

[Moooose]

Hmm I disagree. I feel Carter is quite a bit better than all those dudes

Exactly my thoughts as well. He's still in the lead among that group but I don't see enough separation from the rest. I still have him in the lottery. But we'll see once the private workouts begin.

[Zukkoyaki]

I could see JJJ sliding down to 7 or later. Lots of names in the late lottery that I could see jumping based on workouts and interviews.

[jcsunsfan]

Bamba will move up.

Slides: Kevin Knox. Trae Young.

[miltk]

i never really watched bamba, but what's his offense like,,,or are we talking another noel.

the game is all about offense. multi-skilled, multi-positional

defense is just a niche and i wouldn't spend a top5 on defense unless it's to plug a hole, adn the teams drafting at the bottom need offense before they can think about defense

[bigworld2017]

i never really watched bamba, but what's his offense like,,,or are we talking another noel.

the game is all about offense. multi-skilled, multi-positional

defense is just a niche and i wouldn't spend a top5 on defense unless it's to plug a hole, adn the teams drafting at the bottom need offense before they can think about defense

Bamba's offensive potential has been underrated. Some of his potential depends on where he goes and what he's surrounded by. He has already significantly improved his jump shot in just the 3 months since the end of the NCAA Tournament. His inside game is going to improve as he matures into his body. His problems in the post offensively and defensively were mainly due to strength disparities. He started the season with Texas at about 215-218 pounds. At close to 7' tall that is thin, without a strong core and lower body strength. His frame will easily carry 240 pounds. Frame-wise he is built like Kevin Garnett who played the majority of his peak years at 240 pounds. Bamba is a worker. He is coachable. But you can't teach a 9' 7.5" standing reach or a 7' -10' wingspan. He is a strong rebounder who is only going to improve as he bulks up with diet, weight training and maturity. He is wiry strong already.

Just from put backs and occasional alley-oops he'll average 10 point a game right off the bat. 12-15 rebounds a game are not out of the question. By year 3 I see him playing at around 240 pounds, averaging close to 20 points a game and 15 rebounds, 4 blocks, and being the Defensive player of the year. But he can't go into a situation where he is expected to lead the team in scoring. I see him as more of a 4th option offensively. A lot of his scoring is going to come from put backs, not plays run specifically for him. If he gets the green light to shoot from the arc he could become a 35% shooter from deep, just enough to make teams guard him out there. That can create good spacing for offensive wings. None of the other bigs in the draft can cover the ground Bamba can. He can go from the hoop to the arc in 2 strides. He is cat like quick and can defend in space. He can switch and cover up mistakes by teammates by blocking from behind from the weak side. His potential is as enormous as his length. His best attribute is his ability to block and alter shots without being foul prone. I would really like to see this kid in a Bull's uniform opposite Markannen.

[Patsfan1081]

Won't surprise me if Sexton slides relative to where he's mocked. Mitchell Robinson might slide into the second round as the playoff teams may not want to touch him.

Robinson better have a promise or else skipping the combine all together was just idiotic.

[ezhkw8u69e]

I could see JJJ sliding down to 7 or later. Lots of names in the late lottery that I could see jumping based on workouts and interviews.

JJJ might be the most bankable prospect in the entire draft. I highly doubt he slides past 3.

[Patsfan1081]

Somone will draft Holliday way too early off his recent hype and I could see Williams taking a similar dive like Davis and Rabb did.

[Axolotl]

Bamba will not slide, he is a unique physical specimen.

Looking at Bamba tapes (no highlights, they are pretty much useless in ealuation) I think he will in time prove people wrong with his offence. Just look at his solid shooting mechanics, all he needs to do is to practice shooting alot, and he'll be a legitimate 3pt threat.

He is a certain top 7 pick, and I can see him going as high as #3.

Trae Young may slide, if the PG-needy prefer Sexton, but I don't think that likely either. Young's main strengths should translate - as should his weaknesses...

Jackson Junior may slide due to rawness, but It's hard to see him lower than #7.

Porter Junior may fall drastically, but it depends on his back. If it checks out, no way is he lower than #7.

Young and MPJ are the players who may go below #7. The 5 others should not fall beyond that.

[PLO]

The fact Bamba is older than Markelle Fultz and basically has zero offensive game doesn't worry people? Like a little bit?

[ezhkw8u69e]

The fact Bamba is older than Markelle Fultz and basically has zero offensive game doesn't worry people? Like a little bit?

It worries a lot of people a lot.

[Sactowndog]

I’m wondering if Luca slides to Dallas.

[Nazrmohamed]

I think Bamba and Carter are gonna slide big

I think Bamba is gonna rise and be picked top 3-4, but I agree Carter will slide hard. Maybe to the 12-13 range unless the Bulls see him as a great compliment to Markenen. But if they don't pick him I think he drops 7 slots down.

[dobbins66]

Lonnie Walker will be a lotto pick. 6'5 and a 6'10 wingspan

I agree - I could see Philly taking a serious look at him at 10.
Wouldn't be surprised if Afernee Simmons move up to mid/late teens.

Possible Fallers - Sexton(size/jumper) and Mikal Bridges(upside).

[Stillwater]

Starting to buy into the possibility that Jaren Jackson gets picked before Ayton and Bagley.

[NoZoLakers]

Not sure how much the combine will impact him, because the hype around Young is already overrated imo as far as teams true valuation of his skills. SO he may never had been really a top 10 pick anyway but since most mocks place him there I'd say odds are greater he won't go before 12 .
as far as surprising riser, I'd say Knox has the potential to crack the top 10 and Jontay has the potential to crack the late lottery.
as far as a surprising slide, I'd say Carter could go late teens
as far as a strong possibility to slide, depending on the medicals Micheal Porter could go later than Jontay.

read that Jontay had very poor combine, slow and high body fat % and didn't shoot well at all

[Stillwater]

Not sure how much the combine will impact him, because the hype around Young is already overrated imo as far as teams true valuation of his skills. SO he may never had been really a top 10 pick anyway but since most mocks place him there I'd say odds are greater he won't go before 12 .
as far as surprising riser, I'd say Knox has the potential to crack the top 10 and Jontay has the potential to crack the late lottery.
as far as a surprising slide, I'd say Carter could go late teens
as far as a strong possibility to slide, depending on the medicals Micheal Porter could go later than Jontay.

read that Jontay had very poor combine, slow and high body fat % and didn't shoot well at all

yep didn't have good athletic testing numbers and should probably return to Mizzou for another season, but I do think
MPJ is in jeopardy of falling quite a bit if his medicals come back bad. Obviously if not then he won't,too skilled to drop much if he has a clean boh.

[PhilBlackson]

Starting to buy into the possibility that Jaren Jackson gets picked before Ayton and Bagley.

I don't see it with Ayton at all.

This board's opinions is not widespread as the opposing views of DA. It's possible Jackson gets drafted before Bagley although I still don't see it likely that ATL passes on him. But I don't see Ayton not being picked in the top 2 and Jackson certainly won't go #1 overall.

As aside I just get the feeling that if Lonnie Walker is available at #10 (I think he will rise in the draft) that Colangelo will end up gambling on his upside over Bridges (who mimics a lot of Covington) so that he can also potentially use Fultz in a different trade package should LBJ take his talents to the city of Brotherly Love.