2018 draft 3.0. #7, #22 - Merged

[DJhitek]

Personally, I'd take Trae Young and Kevin Huerter. I feel both players have good enough feel where they can contribute more to the offensive side than shooting.

I will say this though, I don't feel that strongly about this draft or particular players. Outside of reaching for second round talent in the first round, I think anyone from 6-35 are pretty close in talent and potential.

[Chitownbulls]

As much as I wanted Lopez traded this year, now we might as well keep him. He's a guy that could give us a nice discount to keep around. He could be here another 3-4 years.

Why did GarPax sign Felicio to a 4yr 32mil deal on Day 1 of free agency again? They knew this draft was loaded with bigmen.

[TheSuzerain]

Personally, I'd take Trae Young and Kevin Huerter. I feel both players have good enough feel where they can contribute more to the offensive side than shooting.

I will say this though, I don't feel that strongly about this draft or particular players. Outside of reaching for second round talent in the first round, I think anyone from 6-35 are pretty close in talent and potential.

I feel like the mental side of the game has become extremely demanding at the top levels of NBA basketball.

If you're unable to rapidly process and make decisions, you're likely to struggle.

I hope the Bulls draft with that in mind.

[shakes0]

I was one of the posters (maybe the only) that advocated taking Knox with our pick, even when it was sitting at 8. This was before I knew much about the other prospects but this guy is going to be a really good NBA player. Maybe even the steal of the draft.

I watched Kentucky play 20-25 times this year. Knox underwhelmed me at just about every turn. Especially in the tournament where he was a complete no show. He seemed to wilt from the pressure of the big moments all season long. Complete opposite of his teammate SGA who proved to be a much better player and should go higher in the draft IMO.

[sco]

https://www.blogabull.com/2018/5/21/17373104/chicago-bulls-interviewed-bamba-young-others-at-draft-combine

"The Bulls also interviewed Bridges, but it was Miles and not Mikal.

Finally, although there’s no formal report of him interviewing with the Bulls, that one guy from Duke you hate and probably don’t want the Bulls to draft really likes the city.

Grayson Allen had an internship in Chicago last summer and fell in love with the city.

"I love the city of Chicago. It’s a great place with great people, and the Bulls are a great franchise. It would be amazing to play for a team like that."

— Mark Strotman (@markstrot) May 17, 2018
Grayson Allen is going to be wearing Bulls red and black one way or another next season, isn’t he?"

So Miles before Mikal?

And Grayson before hell freezes over?

[holv03]

Mo Bamba is a guy I'm hearing that John Paxson really likes. I doubt he is available at #7 since Dallas likes him also. Bulls might be going for a center at #7 and a wing at #22 unless Porter Jr is there at #7 and his health is good.

[NecessaryEvil]

Mo Bamba is a guy I'm hearing that John Paxson really likes. I doubt he is available at #7 since Dallas likes him also. Bulls might be going for a center at #7 and a wing at #22 unless Porter Jr is there at #7 and his health is good.

Ahhhh paxson, my brother from another mother. I knew he'd wind up jumping on the bam wagon.

[kodo]

Knox in my eyes gets an automatic Calipari Sucks bump.

One of those kids Calipari was pushing hard to stay at Kentucky. He doesn't do it often either. I heard Cal say in an interview that he thought Knox could benefit from another year there more than most kids he's ever seen. Usually Cal is all for the kids going for the NBA if they are projected into the top half of the 1st round. He always says his scholarships are for life and the NBA won't always be calling and you can get hurt or so many other things can happen. School will always be there, the money won't.

Knox made the right decision for himself.

Hamidou Diallo in 2017 was supposed to go 20-30. He decided that wasn't good enough, and withdrew from last year's combine. Now he's going to be going 40-60 or possibly undrafted.

Staying in school doesn't consider the possibility the kid may not be that good, and a 2nd year will expose that. As a 1st round pick based on nothing but potential, he'll still make a few million a year and have a nice start to his life after the NBA.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

Knox in my eyes gets an automatic Calipari Sucks bump.

One of those kids Calipari was pushing hard to stay at Kentucky. He doesn't do it often either. I heard Cal say in an interview that he thought Knox could benefit from another year there more than most kids he's ever seen. Usually Cal is all for the kids going for the NBA if they are projected into the top half of the 1st round. He always says his scholarships are for life and the NBA won't always be calling and you can get hurt or so many other things can happen. School will always be there, the money won't.

He made the right decision for himself.

Hamidou Diallo in 2017 was supposed to go 20-30. He decided that wasn't good enough, and withdrew from last year's combine. Now he's going to be going 40-60 or possibly undrafted. He's been one of the bigger disappointments this season.


Staying in school doesn't consider the possibility the kid may not be that good, and a 2nd year will expose that. As a 1st round pick based on nothing but potential, he'll still make a few million a year and have a nice start to his life after the NBA.

You don’t get better at Kentucky. I can’t think of a single kid that benefitted from going back.

[biggestbullsfan]

Even though I have come around on the Carter selection, don't get me wrong. He isn't in my top 6. Barely 7. But if he pans out, then I will be satisfied.

[Red Larrivee]

https://www.thestepien.com/2018/05/21/big-men-playoff-takeaways-2018-draft/

Nice read on bigs that can shoot, pass, and play unselfish basketball... this is a primary reason for why I want WCJ at pick #7. 5-out and let Kris Dunn or Zach LaVine go to work.

Good read. Furthers the stance that Carter is being undervalued by some and projects to be a good fit for a center in today's league.

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[kodo]

RE: Jimmer vs Trey

Jimmer's source of his failure wasn't what type of player he was or shooting talent...it was his arrogance.

This was from when he was w/ the San Antonio Spurs ...

"Jimmer thinks everybody is stupid," said an NBA assistant who worked with Fredette. "He thinks everybody needs to come and just turn over their offense and let him shoot it anytime he wants. That's not how the league works."

If you're talented & lucky enough that the Spurs want to develop you after your career is a miserable failure...you need to STFU and listen. Jimmer was just mentally delusional about how good he was and how little he had to learn.

Mental issues will always torpedo a career, be it Jimmer or Ben Gordon or Tyrus Thomas.

I wouldn't assume Trey is also that delusional. But if he is, it will come out instantly in the interview.

[fleet]

The Snell comp is warranted.

Point is that Knox can shoot and has physical gifts. But he failed to impose himself at the college level.

Zhaire Smith vs. Kevin Knox is a useful exercise. Both have great physical ability. One of them actually uses it.

The Snell comp is such a waste of a comp if that's all you're trying to prove.

Those 2 play nothing a like and don't share the same strengths... like.. at all.

Knox is long, has handles, can shoot and didn't utilize his skill set in college.

Summer league Snell and pre-season Snell looked pretty promising. But when came to 5 on 5 he didn't do much.

It's a concern like other players in this draft.

He's a smooth guy. Almost looks like he is taking it easy. Sort of Snellish in that respect. Maybe he was, given his college career. I like the KD shoes if I could find that color.

Watch on YouTube

Then MPJ. Who shows more life in his bones.

Watch on YouTube

[shakes0]

RE: Jimmer vs Trey

Jimmer's source of his failure wasn't what type of player he was or shooting talent...it was his arrogance.

This was from when he was w/ the San Antonio Spurs ...

"Jimmer thinks everybody is stupid," said an NBA assistant who worked with Fredette. "He thinks everybody needs to come and just turn over their offense and let him shoot it anytime he wants. That's not how the league works."

If you're talented & lucky enough that the Spurs want to develop you after your career is a miserable failure...you need to STFU and listen. Jimmer was just mentally delusional about how good he was and how little he had to learn.

Mental issues will always torpedo a career, be it Jimmer or Ben Gordon or Tyrus Thomas.

I wouldn't assume Trey is also that delusional. But if he is, it will come out instantly in the interview.

People really need to stop comparing Trae (it's spelled Trae, act like you heard of him before last week) to Jimmer, the two could not be more opposite. Jimmer was a shoot first second and third shooting guard. Trae is a pass first point guard. He's a better passer than he is a shooter. Didn't get to see a lot of that this season because his teammates were so historically bad that they couldn't catch and finish even the simplest of passes.

[Axolotl]

At first I thought the #7 wasn't that big of a deal, but the more I look at this draft the more it become "ugh." I think it is because I am not a big fan of Young at all, but a decent fan of Bridges. Has anyone made any good posts on why Young is going to be good? I just don't have a lot of confidence that his game is going to translate.

I think these aspects of Young's game should translate 1-1, and are also his elite level skills:

- Court vision.
- Passing.
- Playmaking.
- Shooting.
- Ballhandling.

These should translate, but not surely or they may be at a lower level:

- Drawing fouls.
- Beating defenders 1 vs 1.
- Getting in to the paint.
- Finishing from the inside.
- Feeding pick and roll.

Skills or qualities that won't translate, or he has a low abilites at:

- Defending.
- Playing/finishing in traffic/through contact.
- Off-ball -play.
- Athleticism.
- Size and length.
- Risk evaluation and shot selection sometimes.

It's been a while since I watched his games, so these are the impressions that have stuck with me.

[NDave79]

I feel like Trae Young is quicker and faster than a lot of people think. During this highlight reel against Kansas, I see a number of quick, explosive plays blowing by the Kansas defenders. Mostly, it's against Devonte Graham who was All Big 12 defense in 2017 and has an NBA type body and athleticism. Kansas in general has a lot of size and athleticism as college teams go.

Also, you can hear in the broadcast a few things related to his speed and quickness.

"One of the things that Lon Kruger talks about is how fast Trae Young is"

"That goes to show, cause Devonte Graham is a quick player, just how quick Trae Young is"

"he (Lon Kruger) always goes out of his way to point out, no, no, he is really fast"

Watch on YouTube

Just like any freshman, Trae has plenty of stuff to work on physically, mentally and skill wise, but what we have seen when he has been at his best is incredible.

Also, despite him admitting to sort of managing his energy levels and fouls on the defensive end (sounds like a coaching decision actually), I think he is a tremendous competitor.

Trae has been my pick in the last couple polls.

[johnnyvann840]

I was one of the posters (maybe the only) that advocated taking Knox with our pick, even when it was sitting at 8. This was before I knew much about the other prospects but this guy is going to be a really good NBA player. Maybe even the steal of the draft.

I watched Kentucky play 20-25 times this year. Knox underwhelmed me at just about every turn. Especially in the tournament where he was a complete no show. He seemed to wilt from the pressure of the big moments all season long. Complete opposite of his teammate SGA who proved to be a much better player and should go higher in the draft IMO.

Couldn't agree more. SGA is the better prospect.

[Axolotl]

I feel like Trae Young is quicker and faster than a lot of people think.

He does possess a quick first step, and gets up to speed fast. So yeah, I agree, speed and quickness shouldn't be a problem.

Quick first step is also one of the key elements in his highly effective hesitation dribbles.

[JohnnyTapwater]

Mo Bamba is a guy I'm hearing that John Paxson really likes. I doubt he is available at #7 since Dallas likes him also. Bulls might be going for a center at #7 and a wing at #22 unless Porter Jr is there at #7 and his health is good.

I love you for these little updates. At the very least, they get me oriented in the right direction.

Much appreciated sir.

[burlydee]

At first I thought the #7 wasn't that big of a deal, but the more I look at this draft the more it become "ugh." I think it is because I am not a big fan of Young at all, but a decent fan of Bridges. Has anyone made any good posts on why Young is going to be good? I just don't have a lot of confidence that his game is going to translate.

I think these aspects of Young's game should translate 1-1, and are also his elite level skills:

- Court vision.
- Passing.
- Playmaking.
- Shooting.
- Ballhandling.

These should translate, but not surely or they may be at a lower level:

- Drawing fouls.
- Beating defenders 1 vs 1.
- Getting in to the paint.
- Finishing from the inside.
- Feeding pick and roll.

Skills or qualities that won't translate, or he has a low abilites at:

- Defending.
- Playing/finishing in traffic/through contact.
- Off-ball -play.
- Athleticism.
- Size and length.
- Risk evaluation and shot selection sometimes.

It's been a while since I watched his games, so these are the impressions that have stuck with me.

I disagree with one thing. I think Young is going to be fantastic off the ball. He was in something like the 90th percentile in catch and shoot 3s. He won't dominate the ball in the NBA and he's going to be a fantastic spot up shooter.