Devin Robinson

[Ruzious]

I have said it before, but im in on Robinson.
I think he can be our PF version of Oubre in many ways. Skinny, but tough. Athletic and long. Can guard 4 positions and make the 3, but not consistently.

I always saw him as a more raw version of Kelly Oubre, which isnt bad... Except when you consider that hes a rookie and is already older than Oubre.

He has the ideal athletic build of the modern 3/4 position guy, but hes just too raw at 23 years old for my liking.

Robinson slides his feet CONSIDERABLY BETTER than Oubre. The two of them together are fine. I liked what I saw of Robinson except for his frame.


IT IS LUDICROUS TO LOOK AT 23 AS TOO OLD TO ASSIMILATE/GROW in one's game.

You know that's not what I said. Of course he can grow as a player. But wouln't it be ludicrous - statistically speaking - to EXPECT someone to go from no more than a good G Leaguer at 23 to a quality NBA player in a year or less. Statistically, what are the odds of that happening? And please consider his 4 years of college stats. There's a lot of data there to base an opinion. What do you think are the odds of Robinson being a quality NBA player next season?

And he doesn't have ideal size for a 3/4. He has good size for a 3. He's short and skinny for a 4.

[pcbothwel]

I mean, he is about the same size as Otto Porter but MUCH more athletic. Not sure how Otto is a 4 and Robinson is too short and skinny

[NatP4]

Ruz he has plenty of size to play the 4, he’s got a nice 7 ft wingspan and high end athletic ability. That’s more size than Morris. The problem is he just doesn’t rebound.

If you don’t rebound enough to be a small ball 4 and you don’t have the ball skills to be a 3 or wing player, you’re just not NBA caliber. It’d be another thing if he was a good defender or even elite, but like I said, negative defensive box plus minus in the dam g-league is horrible.

I’m not seeing it with Robinson, but our NBA PFs are awful so play him anyways.

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CCJ -- anybody who's in the NBA, even marginally, or even anybody who's in the G League, is a tremendous basketball player. That goes without saying.

But even so, that doesn't mean they all play equally well. Some players are just plain better than other players.

The more minutes of better play your team has, the better your team does. The guys on the other team also want to win.

"Positionless" basketball make it harder to excel not easier. The idea that you'd like McCullough in the rotation suffices to tell me you're taking a utopian stance here. It is now almost three years since Chris McCullough was drafted. From what we've seen of him in Summer League & a few regular season minutes here & there, nothing says he plays well enough to help anyone win in the NBA. Not to mention that he is playing in every Wizards practice & can't be showing much there either.

This is not about a narrow-minded coach. Sheldon Mac was an undrafted rookie last year last year, but he played 3 times the minutes Chris played this year.

As to Devin Robinson, it's not that a 23-year old is a finished product, it's whether he's shown improvementin the last year, & how much. If a lot, then that's a reason to be optimistic about him. If he hasn't improved much, then that reason for opimism isn't there & who knows, maybe it makes sense to be pessimistic.

I'm not saying the Wizards make wise personnel decisions; they don't. But that doesn't mean McCullough is an NBA player. Or Robinson.

[papidulo]

I always saw him as a more raw version of Kelly Oubre, which isnt bad... Except when you consider that hes a rookie and is already older than Oubre.

He has the ideal athletic build of the modern 3/4 position guy, but hes just too raw at 23 years old for my liking.

Robinson slides his feet CONSIDERABLY BETTER than Oubre. The two of them together are fine. I liked what I saw of Robinson except for his frame.


IT IS LUDICROUS TO LOOK AT 23 AS TOO OLD TO ASSIMILATE/GROW in one's game.

You know that's not what I said. Of course he can grow as a player. But wouln't it be ludicrous - statistically speaking - to EXPECT someone to go from no more than a good G Leaguer at 23 to a quality NBA player in a year or less. Statistically, what are the odds of that happening? And please consider his 4 years of college stats. There's a lot of data there to base an opinion. What do you think are the odds of Robinson being a quality NBA player next season?

And he doesn't have ideal size for a 3/4. He has good size for a 3. He's short and skinny for a 4.

Robinson is a classic "buy low sell high" guy, bc he has a great build, and you hope he can specialize in doing something well enough to earn a spot on the team.

As of now, hes a decent stand-still shooter, but his ball handling is too weak for him to play at the 3. He has a decent size to play the 4, but he doesnt play physical enough, probably bc hes only 200 lbs at his height.

He definitely has an NBA body, but I feel like if the Wizards werent seeing enough potential in him to give him meaningful minutes last year, it was bc they could see that he wasnt ready.. And the thing about the NBA is that after next years draft, there are gonna be undrafted players with similar skill sets, but 2 or 3 years younger that the Wizards are gonna be more likely to want to invest time into

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

CCJ -- anybody who's in the NBA, even marginally, or even anybody who's in the G League, is a tremendous basketball player. That goes without saying.

But even so, that doesn't mean they all play equally well. Some players are just plain better than other players.

The more minutes of better play your team has, the better your team does. The guys on the other team also want to win.

"Positionless" basketball make it harder to excel not easier. The idea that you'd like McCullough in the rotation suffices to tell me you're taking a utopian stance here. It is now almost three years since Chris McCullough was drafted. From what we've seen of him in Summer League & a few regular season minutes here & there, nothing says he plays well enough to help anyone win in the NBA. Not to mention that he is playing in every Wizards practice & can't be showing much there either.

This is not about a narrow-minded coach. Sheldon Mac was an undrafted rookie last year last year, but he played 3 times the minutes Chris played this year.

As to Devin Robinson, it's not that a 23-year old is a finished product, it's whether he's shown improvementin the last year, & how much. If a lot, then that's a reason to be optimistic about him. If he hasn't improved much, then that reason for opimism isn't there & who knows, maybe it makes sense to be pessimistic.

I'm not saying the Wizards make wise personnel decisions; they don't. But that doesn't mean McCullough is an NBA player. Or Robinson.

You just don't understand.

Any freaking NBA player can make a play here and there.

You don't always use the corkscrew but every now and then it comes in handy if you want to open up a wine bottle if it's got a cork in it.

My whole idea is use everybody on the damn team some. Those guys can play in the NBA and you're just wrong

When you say somebody is not an NBA player and he's already on in the NBA roster that's just dumb.

Sorry if I'm so rough around the edges I've been really sick as hell lately

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Many years ago Bill Russell was promoting a book about the Celtics. Every player on a team had an area of specialization. Cousey was really good at dribbling the ball. Bill Russell of course was a defender and a rebounder.

Some guys are athletes.

Let them run and make the other team tired.

Devin Robinson can move his feet. Chris McCulloch is actually very good at closing out on three point shots and could become a good perimeter Defender.

I don't really like to discuss stuff when I have to explain myself too many times

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[Ruzious]

CCJ -- anybody who's in the NBA, even marginally, or even anybody who's in the G League, is a tremendous basketball player. That goes without saying.

But even so, that doesn't mean they all play equally well. Some players are just plain better than other players.

The more minutes of better play your team has, the better your team does. The guys on the other team also want to win.

"Positionless" basketball make it harder to excel not easier. The idea that you'd like McCullough in the rotation suffices to tell me you're taking a utopian stance here. It is now almost three years since Chris McCullough was drafted. From what we've seen of him in Summer League & a few regular season minutes here & there, nothing says he plays well enough to help anyone win in the NBA. Not to mention that he is playing in every Wizards practice & can't be showing much there either.

This is not about a narrow-minded coach. Sheldon Mac was an undrafted rookie last year last year, but he played 3 times the minutes Chris played this year.

As to Devin Robinson, it's not that a 23-year old is a finished product, it's whether he's shown improvementin the last year, & how much. If a lot, then that's a reason to be optimistic about him. If he hasn't improved much, then that reason for opimism isn't there & who knows, maybe it makes sense to be pessimistic.

I'm not saying the Wizards make wise personnel decisions; they don't. But that doesn't mean McCullough is an NBA player. Or Robinson.

You just don't understand.

Any freaking NBA player can make a play here and there.

You don't always use the corkscrew but every now and then it comes in handy if you want to open up a wine bottle if it's got a cork in it.

My whole idea is use everybody on the damn team some. Those guys can play in the NBA and you're just wrong

When you say somebody is not an NBA player and he's already on in the NBA roster that's just dumb.

Sorry if I'm so rough around the edges I've been really sick as hell lately

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I hope ya feel better. And remember it's fine to have different views - and to listen to why others disagree. Both sides get smarter that way.

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CCJ -- anybody who's in the NBA, even marginally, or even anybody who's in the G League, is a tremendous basketball player. That goes without saying.

But even so, that doesn't mean they all play equally well. Some players are just plain better than other players.

The more minutes of better play your team has, the better your team does. The guys on the other team also want to win.

"Positionless" basketball make it harder to excel not easier. The idea that you'd like McCullough in the rotation suffices to tell me you're taking a utopian stance here. It is now almost three years since Chris McCullough was drafted. From what we've seen of him in Summer League & a few regular season minutes here & there, nothing says he plays well enough to help anyone win in the NBA. Not to mention that he is playing in every Wizards practice & can't be showing much there either.

This is not about a narrow-minded coach. Sheldon Mac was an undrafted rookie last year last year, but he played 3 times the minutes Chris played this year.

As to Devin Robinson, it's not that a 23-year old is a finished product, it's whether he's shown improvementin the last year, & how much. If a lot, then that's a reason to be optimistic about him. If he hasn't improved much, then that reason for opimism isn't there & who knows, maybe it makes sense to be pessimistic.

I'm not saying the Wizards make wise personnel decisions; they don't. But that doesn't mean McCullough is an NBA player. Or Robinson.

You just don't understand.

Any freaking NBA player can make a play here and there.

You don't always use the corkscrew but every now and then it comes in handy if you want to open up a wine bottle if it's got a cork in it.

My whole idea is use everybody on the damn team some. Those guys can play in the NBA and you're just wrong

When you say somebody is not an NBA player and he's already on in the NBA roster that's just dumb.

Sorry if I'm so rough around the edges I've been really sick as hell lately

Feel better, man. & you don't have to worry about "tone" with me, CCJ. I know where you're coming from.

Let me point out that I was the one who called for us to sign Devin Robinson when he went undrafted. I was the first one to mention him here. & that I was also a huge supporter of trying to get Sindarius Thornwell. I've called for Ernie to buy R2 picks over & over.

IOW, I'm a Robinson fan. And someone who recognizes that some of the best players in the NBA come out of R2.

It's not "dumb" to say McCullough is "not an NBA player." You know as well as I why he's on the team -- to help hide Ernie's idiotic signing of Nicholson & make the bath we took to get rid of him look a little better. Not b/c Ernie thinks Chris can play effectively in the NBA. He can't. & he won't be in the league next year.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

CCJ -- anybody who's in the NBA, even marginally, or even anybody who's in the G League, is a tremendous basketball player. That goes without saying.

But even so, that doesn't mean they all play equally well. Some players are just plain better than other players.

The more minutes of better play your team has, the better your team does. The guys on the other team also want to win.

"Positionless" basketball make it harder to excel not easier. The idea that you'd like McCullough in the rotation suffices to tell me you're taking a utopian stance here. It is now almost three years since Chris McCullough was drafted. From what we've seen of him in Summer League & a few regular season minutes here & there, nothing says he plays well enough to help anyone win in the NBA. Not to mention that he is playing in every Wizards practice & can't be showing much there either.

This is not about a narrow-minded coach. Sheldon Mac was an undrafted rookie last year last year, but he played 3 times the minutes Chris played this year.

As to Devin Robinson, it's not that a 23-year old is a finished product, it's whether he's shown improvementin the last year, & how much. If a lot, then that's a reason to be optimistic about him. If he hasn't improved much, then that reason for opimism isn't there & who knows, maybe it makes sense to be pessimistic.

I'm not saying the Wizards make wise personnel decisions; they don't. But that doesn't mean McCullough is an NBA player. Or Robinson.

You just don't understand.

Any freaking NBA player can make a play here and there.

You don't always use the corkscrew but every now and then it comes in handy if you want to open up a wine bottle if it's got a cork in it.

My whole idea is use everybody on the damn team some. Those guys can play in the NBA and you're just wrong

When you say somebody is not an NBA player and he's already on in the NBA roster that's just dumb.

Sorry if I'm so rough around the edges I've been really sick as hell lately

Feel better, man. & you don't have to worry about "tone" with me, CCJ. I know where you're coming from.

Let me point out that I was the one who called for us to sign Devin Robinson when he went undrafted. I was the first one to mention him here. & that I was also a huge supporter of trying to get Sindarius Thornwell. I've called for Ernie to buy R2 picks over & over.

IOW, I'm a Robinson fan. And someone who recognizes that some of the best players in the NBA come out of R2.

It's not "dumb" to say McCullough is "not an NBA player." You know as well as I why he's on the team -- to help hide Ernie's idiotic signing of Nicholson & make the bath we took to get rid of him look a little better. Not b/c Ernie thinks Chris can play effectively in the NBA. He can't. & he won't be in the league next year.

Kermit sang it easy being green.

F that. My situation is so epic FUBAR at times; but, we're all going through something. (Mental health, loss custody, cycle of **** flows to kids, etc but I' GOOD) Thanks, PIF.

YEAH, we both know that Chris was the faux 1st rounder to make up for yet another EGB. (blunder)

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You a movie star, dude. Be that, do that, stay that.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

You a movie star, dude. Be that, do that, stay that.

God bless you!

[BearlyBallin]

Watch on YouTube

He had a nice game.

After the hornets game, during the post game show, they mentioned the possibility of Devin Robinson being added to the roster. I was wondering if anyone had seen Robinson play recently and how he looked. I hope they only bring him if they let him play. Last year they put him on the roster but I don't recall him playing.

[DCZards]

Watch on YouTube

He had a nice game.

After the hornets game, during the post game show, they mentioned the possibility of Devin Robinson being added to the roster. I was wondering if anyone had seen Robinson play recently and how he looked. I hope they only bring him if they let him play. Last year they put him on the roster but I don't recall him playing.

Robinson was active and on the bench for the Hornets game. Didn't play though.

[Eli Babak]

Robinson was active and on the bench for the Hornets game. Didn't play though.

He was on the bench vs Bulls but not last night. He was with the Go-Go and played 32 mins in a loss against Long Island Nets. Box score here:

https://gleague.nba.com/games/20181229/LINCAP/

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That's one of the main reasons why Robinson needs to be in the NBA -- his ability to be in two places at once. Tell me how you defend that!

Not to mention that his trick with that is like being a great sixth man -- & if you can have six men on the floor & the opponent only 5, they say that can help.