WCF: P4 | (1) Houston Rockets vs (2) Golden State Warriors | Tied 2-2

[Bruteque]

At some point you’ll figure out that this isn’t about Golden State - it’s about Houston. They had the best record in the league by far for a reason and if they play near their potential, there’s not a damn thing Golden State can do. The reverse is not true either because Golden State’s 2 superstars have shown that they lack one or more of:
Physical toughness
Mental toughness
Clutch ability

This is Houston’s to lose. I underestimated them in the semis, but I’m not going to make the same mistake.

But that's what makes the POs special, players step up. In 2016 even klay thompson dropped 45 on the road against okc to save them on the road, I wont go through lebrons performances, I've seen Dirk do amazing things etc.

Guys just have to step up. That's what makes players legendary. Can't just base stephs greatness on real plus minus (I know you re not).

HOU is an awesome team. When Curry got really hot they put them away easily. A combination of kd and Curry should get you enough great performances in a 6 or 7 game series to come out on top.

But yes, I agree they lack all 3 of those traits you listed (inb4 video of durant in game 3, up 2-0)

Yep mostly agree with you but I don’t share your opinion on Steph. I just don’t think he’s ever stepped up in the yoffs against a great team and I’m still waiting for it. Was outplayed for half the 15 series by a fringe D league (or G, whatever) player. LeBron and Kyrie crushed him in 16. KD carried him in 17. And even like you said - it was Klay who saved him in the WCF in 16. It was Draymond who was having the best warrior series in the 16 finals.

He’s just so fragile and the stupid 1st quarter shimmys in losses are starting to mount.

Steph put aside his fragility in the 3rd to put HOU away easily, but you could just tell that he pulled some muscles or something doing the shimmy and went back to being injured in the 4th. He just didn't look right after and GSW fell short in the end.

[HotTubMike]

But that's what makes the POs special, players step up. In 2016 even klay thompson dropped 45 on the road against okc to save them on the road, I wont go through lebrons performances, I've seen Dirk do amazing things etc.

Guys just have to step up. That's what makes players legendary. Can't just base stephs greatness on real plus minus (I know you re not).

HOU is an awesome team. When Curry got really hot they put them away easily. A combination of kd and Curry should get you enough great performances in a 6 or 7 game series to come out on top.

But yes, I agree they lack all 3 of those traits you listed (inb4 video of durant in game 3, up 2-0)

Yep mostly agree with you but I don’t share your opinion on Steph. I just don’t think he’s ever stepped up in the yoffs against a great team and I’m still waiting for it. Was outplayed for half the 15 series by a fringe D league (or G, whatever) player. LeBron and Kyrie crushed him in 16. KD carried him in 17. And even like you said - it was Klay who saved him in the WCF in 16. It was Draymond who was having the best warrior series in the 16 finals.

He’s just so fragile and the stupid 1st quarter shimmys in losses are starting to mount.

Steph put aside his fragility in the 3rd to put HOU away easily, but you could just tell that he pulled some muscles or something doing the shimmy and went back to being injured in the 4th. He just didn't look right after and GSW fell short in the end.

Steph just never plays poorly its always something beyond his control..

[ShotCreator]

The Warriors were 51-0 in the Kerr when winning the third quarter by 15 or more...Until last night.

That it was broken at home makes this an even crazier statistic.

[510TWSS]

At some point you’ll figure out that this isn’t about Golden State - it’s about Houston. They had the best record in the league by far for a reason and if they play near their potential, there’s not a damn thing Golden State can do. The reverse is not true either because Golden State’s 2 superstars have shown that they lack one or more of:
Physical toughness
Mental toughness
Clutch ability

This is Houston’s to lose. I underestimated them in the semis, but I’m not going to make the same mistake.

But that's what makes the POs special, players step up. In 2016 even klay thompson dropped 45 on the road against okc to save them on the road, I wont go through lebrons performances, I've seen Dirk do amazing things etc.

Guys just have to step up. That's what makes players legendary. Can't just base stephs greatness on real plus minus (I know you re not).

HOU is an awesome team. When Curry got really hot they put them away easily. A combination of kd and Curry should get you enough great performances in a 6 or 7 game series to come out on top.

But yes, I agree they lack all 3 of those traits you listed (inb4 video of durant in game 3, up 2-0)

Yep mostly agree with you but I don’t share your opinion on Steph. I just don’t think he’s ever stepped up in the yoffs against a great team and I’m still waiting for it. Was outplayed for half the 15 series by a fringe D league (or G, whatever) player. LeBron and Kyrie crushed him in 16. KD carried him in 17. And even like you said - it was Klay who saved him in the WCF in 16. It was Draymond who was having the best warrior series in the 16 finals.

He’s just so fragile and the stupid 1st quarter shimmys in losses are starting to mount.

Steph wasn’t even bad in the 15’ series. He didn’t shoot it like he did in the regular season but he avg 26/5/6 on .585 TS% to Delly’s 7/3/3.

I felt Iggy deserved the FMVP though as he was efficient, 2nd leading scorer and defended LeBron great that series.

Steph struggled in Game 2,iirc really bad in a loss but started to get his rhythm late in the series. Even went 37/7/4 in Game 5. I think people just really remember that bad performance early in the series and think he was dogshiet the whole series. Not you specifically, just pops up here time to time.

[510TWSS]

Props to Gerald Green he played outstanding defense on Steph in the 4th. His shot selection was turrible, but he made up for it on D.

[lambchop]

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Steph put aside his fragility in the 3rd to put HOU away easily, but you could just tell that he pulled some muscles or something doing the shimmy and went back to being injured in the 4th. He just didn't look right after and GSW fell short in the end.

hahahaha laughed hard at this

[John Murdoch]

the poll is suprising tbh

[Freefloater]

Houston needs to get extremely lucky to win this series.

houston is 4-2 vs warriors this year in games harden has played

2-1 in oracle

houston is a better team
clearly

[Trophy Husband]

This series shows Harden is the 2nd best player in the league. If KD was still on Okc, Harden would get through that Okc n Gsw (without KD) with ease. KD can't do anything else but score, his defense has been neutralized in this series as well. Harden can do it all on offense, literally everything.

You have a point

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[ken6199]

Loving the drastic GB narratives after every game. The series may be 2-2, but every loss means the team’s chances are eliminated and they play an ugly, hopeless brand of basketball. I would’ve thought there were 4 sweeps after 4 games.

Worst than the overreaction is, certain posters from both camps have been hyping/downplaying their own talent for respective agendas.

Some GS fans, "oh Houston is great, they are #1, they are better than us, y'all don't believe it now you see", to make GS win more commendable, or a loss less of a choke.
Some Houston fans, "oh GS is stacked, they are the GOAT team, we are no match", to make a Houston win more impressive, or a loss more acceptable.

Fact is, both teams are evenly matched, while GS has a slight advantage on talent and offense variety and that's all it is. No need to swing to the extreme to either sugarcoat the win, or scapegoat the loss.

[Shady Franchise]

Yep mostly agree with you but I don’t share your opinion on Steph. I just don’t think he’s ever stepped up in the yoffs against a great team and I’m still waiting for it. Was outplayed for half the 15 series by a fringe D league (or G, whatever) player. LeBron and Kyrie crushed him in 16. KD carried him in 17. And even like you said - it was Klay who saved him in the WCF in 16. It was Draymond who was having the best warrior series in the 16 finals.

He’s just so fragile and the stupid 1st quarter shimmys in losses are starting to mount.

Steph put aside his fragility in the 3rd to put HOU away easily, but you could just tell that he pulled some muscles or something doing the shimmy and went back to being injured in the 4th. He just didn't look right after and GSW fell short in the end.

Steph just never plays poorly its always something beyond his control..

Well who in the heck would want to play poorly by choice? Anyone who plays poorly is not in control. Think about it.

[Grillman]

Crazy how steph had 2 assists last game and 1 assist in game 3 as the teams PG. Their "best" / most consistent passer is Draymond. Imo if they go back to that nice brand of ball movement, then they'll crush HOU, cause at the moment KD and Steph aint about those passes. The dubs bench had zero assists last night.

At some point you’ll figure out that this isn’t about Golden State - it’s about Houston. They had the best record in the league by far for a reason and if they play near their potential, there’s not a damn thing Golden State can do. The reverse is not true either because Golden State’s 2 superstars have shown that they lack one or more of:
Physical toughness
Mental toughness
Clutch ability

This is Houston’s to lose. I underestimated them in the semis, but I’m not going to make the same mistake.

This is coming from a Jazz fan. God damn.

[nymets1]

WCF is clearly the better series than the ECF. Both the Warriors and Rockets have each won a road game in this series while in the ECF neither Celtics or Cavaliers have a road win this series.

[HoneyNutCheerio]

Loving the drastic GB narratives after every game. The series may be 2-2, but every loss means the team’s chances are eliminated and they play an ugly, hopeless brand of basketball. I would’ve thought there were 4 sweeps after 4 games.

Worst than the overreaction is, certain posters from both camps have been hyping/downplaying their own talent for respective agendas.

Some GS fans, "oh Houston is great, they are #1, they are better than us, y'all don't believe it now you see", to make GS win more commendable, or a loss less of a choke.
Some Houston fans, "oh GS is stacked, they are the GOAT team, we are no match", to make a Houston win more impressive, or a loss more acceptable.

Fact is, both teams are evenly matched, while GS has a slight advantage on talent and offense variety and that's all it is. No need to swing to the extreme to either sugarcoat the win, or scapegoat the loss.

GS is clearly more talented.

[Javier Acosta]

Loving the drastic GB narratives after every game. The series may be 2-2, but every loss means the team’s chances are eliminated and they play an ugly, hopeless brand of basketball. I would’ve thought there were 4 sweeps after 4 games.

True. Look at the other thread too. After the first two games: "Cavs are done"

Welp. that's gone now.

It's a bron drama team. it could collapse anytime. Rodney Hood refused to play once. Anything cnn happen .

[og15]

Loving the drastic GB narratives after every game. The series may be 2-2, but every loss means the team’s chances are eliminated and they play an ugly, hopeless brand of basketball. I would’ve thought there were 4 sweeps after 4 games.

Worst than the overreaction is, certain posters from both camps have been hyping/downplaying their own talent for respective agendas.

Some GS fans, "oh Houston is great, they are #1, they are better than us, y'all don't believe it now you see", to make GS win more commendable, or a loss less of a choke.
Some Houston fans, "oh GS is stacked, they are the GOAT team, we are no match", to make a Houston win more impressive, or a loss more acceptable.

Fact is, both teams are evenly matched, while GS has a slight advantage on talent and offense variety and that's all it is. No need to swing to the extreme to either sugarcoat the win, or scapegoat the loss.

GS is clearly more talented.

True, but sometimes the less talented team who is close-ish enough in talent can pull it off. We'll see, but Houston has really fought well. At the least they need to win game 5 to make sure there is a game 7.

[inquisitive]

game 5 a must for Rockets. just gotta keep playing at faster pace.

[Grillman]

If Harden gets by GSW.

Is he the second best player in the league in people’s eyes? There’s an argument to be made.

[Freefloater]

If Harden gets by GSW.

Is he the second best player in the league in people’s eyes? There’s an argument to be made.

best of all times man, cause he beat the best team of all times
he is the true MVP of the last 4 years

[Screwston]

If Harden gets by GSW.

Is he the second best player in the league in people’s eyes? There’s an argument to be made.

N 3rd best SG of all time