2018 draft 3.0. #7, #22 - Merged

[Lauri_Legend]

I'm no doctor, I'm sure the teams will be diligent in evaluating his physical health now and outlook wise, but I do know that back surgery is nothing to mess with.

If 6 teams pass on MPJ after seeing his medical records, then I'd be legit concerned drafting him. A 6'10 freak talent who can score at will wouldn't slip that far.

[NecessaryEvil]

Rumblings out there that Pax and friends have been hot for MPJ since they decided to flip Butler for a youth movement. If he's there for us to pick at #7, I'd be shocked if MPJ wasn't a Chicago Bull.

Link.?

I heard it on local radio and on Comcast Sports Net Chicago, I don't know if there's a clip I can provide you but if I come across it again I'll message it to you / put it in this thread.

It was during a conversation about the state of the Bulls and one of the beat writers said how once the franchise decided to move on from Jimmy Butler and start this youth movement, one of the kids they really were hoping to land was MPJ. Paxson in another interview was asked about the kid, I believe Danny Parkins asked him to draft MPJ and you could hear the excitement in Paxson's voice when he was describing what a talented kid he was (of course, this alone means nothing but combining that with what one of the beat writers was saying it starts to add up a little bit).

Probably the reason we saw MPJ aligning himself with everything Chicago Bulls as if were a done deal. Still wouldn't be surprised if it already is. He's still my 1b.

[Lauri_Legend]

Link.?

I heard it on local radio and on Comcast Sports Net Chicago, I don't know if there's a clip I can provide you but if I come across it again I'll message it to you / put it in this thread.

It was during a conversation about the state of the Bulls and one of the beat writers said how once the franchise decided to move on from Jimmy Butler and start this youth movement, one of the kids they really were hoping to land was MPJ. Paxson in another interview was asked about the kid, I believe Danny Parkins asked him to draft MPJ and you could hear the excitement in Paxson's voice when he was describing what a talented kid he was (of course, this alone means nothing but combining that with what one of the beat writers was saying it starts to add up a little bit).

Probably the reason we saw MPJ aligning himself with everything Chicago Bulls as if were a done deal. Still wouldn't be surprised if it already is. He's still my 1b.

1A is Doncic or Bamba?

[johnnyvann840]

I'm no doctor, I'm sure the teams will be diligent in evaluating his physical health now and outlook wise, but I do know that back surgery is nothing to mess with.

Are there examples of players who had significant back surgery and went on to have long careers with minimal injury concern?

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MDJ was the last player I remember having that surgery. He was out of the league within a couple seasons... but, he was also 32 when he had it. But in the years after he had it he played 53.32.23, and 30 games and his production was roughly cut in half immediately along with his MPG and games played.

[wolffy]

Hmm I had picked MPJ as the guy I wanted at 7 but listening to that quote it sure feels a lot more risky. No way going vegan is fixing his back so its likely still an issue and that's without a season of wear and tear on him. IDK if they are sold on him being #1 overall type talent then maybe they roll the dice. But on the other hand theres a lot of contributing types in this draft and to completely whiff would suck.

[johnnyvann840]

In fact, MDJ is the best comp I can think of for MPJ. Both about the same height, both with great shots, not great handles but decent for their size, both with very upright games (both Jr's with father as coaches). When MDJ was young he was quite athletic and quite a leaper even. Actually, quite similar players. Dunleavy is a better comp than Durant is. MDJ was a 3rd overall pick, highly hyped coming out of Duke. There was talk of him going 1st overall. Yao decided to come over and we took Jay Will with #2.

[Truebiscuit]

Lots of ELITE athletes are now vegan, from Lewis Hamilton on down. They do it for better health and better performance I think people are realizing that whole foods and not processed foods are much better for you. They help you with digestion significantly and also in retaining nutrients

Are beans included in this? Because atleast for me, they're God awful for digestion. Doesn't matter if they're red , black, or brown. All treat me terribly in the digestion department

Gas-X, fam: "beans beans the magical fruit, the more you eat the more you toot".

[NecessaryEvil]

Couple of interesting things in this article.
https://theathletic.com/366248/2018/05/23/the-biggest-question-at-the-nba-draft-combine-whats-real-and-whats-fake/

Miles Bridges


WCJs Al Horford comparisons continue

I'll take Bridges. I think he'll be a better version of Andrew Wiggins. This man is damn MONSTER defensively & the three ball is great. He learns how to create off the dribble and he's going to be a perennial all-star.

Comparing him to Wiggins who sucks does him no favors. Who would you compare him to that is actually good?

Wiggins has the ability to be a great NBA player. Making him a three option and running the ball through Kat and Buckets isn't really helping his development much

His best bet would be an athletic Klay

[Truebiscuit]

Link.?

I heard it on local radio and on Comcast Sports Net Chicago, I don't know if there's a clip I can provide you but if I come across it again I'll message it to you / put it in this thread.

It was during a conversation about the state of the Bulls and one of the beat writers said how once the franchise decided to move on from Jimmy Butler and start this youth movement, one of the kids they really were hoping to land was MPJ. Paxson in another interview was asked about the kid, I believe Danny Parkins asked him to draft MPJ and you could hear the excitement in Paxson's voice when he was describing what a talented kid he was (of course, this alone means nothing but combining that with what one of the beat writers was saying it starts to add up a little bit).

Probably the reason we saw MPJ aligning himself with everything Chicago Bulls as if were a done deal. Still wouldn't be surprised if it already is. He's still my 1b.

I could be way wrong in my guesstimation, but if MPJ is there at 7 I think he's the pick. I'm of the opinion the Bulls already know all they need to know about his back etc.

[NecessaryEvil]

I heard it on local radio and on Comcast Sports Net Chicago, I don't know if there's a clip I can provide you but if I come across it again I'll message it to you / put it in this thread.

It was during a conversation about the state of the Bulls and one of the beat writers said how once the franchise decided to move on from Jimmy Butler and start this youth movement, one of the kids they really were hoping to land was MPJ. Paxson in another interview was asked about the kid, I believe Danny Parkins asked him to draft MPJ and you could hear the excitement in Paxson's voice when he was describing what a talented kid he was (of course, this alone means nothing but combining that with what one of the beat writers was saying it starts to add up a little bit).

Probably the reason we saw MPJ aligning himself with everything Chicago Bulls as if were a done deal. Still wouldn't be surprised if it already is. He's still my 1b.

1A is Doncic or Bamba?

Mo Bam Bigelow

[Truebiscuit]

I'm no doctor, I'm sure the teams will be diligent in evaluating his physical health now and outlook wise, but I do know that back surgery is nothing to mess with.

If 6 teams pass on MPJ after seeing his medical records, then I'd be legit concerned drafting him. A 6'10 freak talent who can score at will wouldn't slip that far.

That's assuming they view him as a top 6 talent to begin with, ya know? I'd have to think the microdiscectomy combined with little-to-no college 'tape' is going to make any evaluator pause, let alone someone that is burning a top 6 pick.

[NecessaryEvil]

I heard it on local radio and on Comcast Sports Net Chicago, I don't know if there's a clip I can provide you but if I come across it again I'll message it to you / put it in this thread.

It was during a conversation about the state of the Bulls and one of the beat writers said how once the franchise decided to move on from Jimmy Butler and start this youth movement, one of the kids they really were hoping to land was MPJ. Paxson in another interview was asked about the kid, I believe Danny Parkins asked him to draft MPJ and you could hear the excitement in Paxson's voice when he was describing what a talented kid he was (of course, this alone means nothing but combining that with what one of the beat writers was saying it starts to add up a little bit).

Probably the reason we saw MPJ aligning himself with everything Chicago Bulls as if were a done deal. Still wouldn't be surprised if it already is. He's still my 1b.

I could be way wrong in my guesstimation, but if MPJ is there at 7 I think he's the pick. I'm of the opinion the Bulls already know all they need to know about his back etc.

Oh yeah, you already know they know. The plan is in motion. I'm about 75% sure he's the guy selected on the 21st

[Habs72]

I'm no doctor, I'm sure the teams will be diligent in evaluating his physical health now and outlook wise, but I do know that back surgery is nothing to mess with.

Are there examples of players who had significant back surgery and went on to have long careers with minimal injury concern?

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Dwight Howard at 2012, his production hasnt been quite the same since albeit not that bad either.

[Lauri_Legend]

I'm no doctor, I'm sure the teams will be diligent in evaluating his physical health now and outlook wise, but I do know that back surgery is nothing to mess with.

Are there examples of players who had significant back surgery and went on to have long careers with minimal injury concern?

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Dwight Howard at 2012, his production hasnt been quite the same since albeit not that bad either.

yeah but in fairness the league has drastically changed since 2012 making his style of play obsolete

[Habs72]

Are there examples of players who had significant back surgery and went on to have long careers with minimal injury concern?

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Dwight Howard at 2012, his production hasnt been quite the same since albeit not that bad either.

yeah but in fairness the league has drastically changed since 2012 making his style of play obsolete

Oh yeah, suddenly right after the same year when got the surgery....maybe he was the reason for the change?

[wonderboy2]

I think you guys are blowing that MPJ quite out of proportion. I heard the interview and he did say all of those things. But he stated that now he feels 100% and better then he ever has.

[TheSuzerain]

I think you guys are blowing that MPJ quite out of proportion. I heard the interview and he did say all of those things. But he stated that now he feels 100% and better then he ever has.

[johnnyvann840]

I think you guys are blowing that MPJ quite out of proportion. I heard the interview and he did say all of those things. But he stated that now he feels 100% and better then he ever has.

Well of course he said that. What else is he going to say? " sometimes my back really hurts me". Hell no. There are millions of dollars on the line here and he knows that everybody is going to see that a doctor really cannot give solid prognosis on his condition. He can say whatever he wants.

[Truebiscuit]

Probably the reason we saw MPJ aligning himself with everything Chicago Bulls as if were a done deal. Still wouldn't be surprised if it already is. He's still my 1b.

I could be way wrong in my guesstimation, but if MPJ is there at 7 I think he's the pick. I'm of the opinion the Bulls already know all they need to know about his back etc.

Oh yeah, you already know they know. The plan is in motion. I'm about 75% sure he's the guy selected on the 21st

Would you say MPJ becoming a Chicago Bull on the 21st is a NecessaryEvil?


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I'll see myself out.

[Habs72]

I think you guys are blowing that MPJ quite out of proportion. I heard the interview and he did say all of those things. But he stated that now he feels 100% and better then he ever has.

Are we talking about the same interview? The audio one or the one in GQ magazine?