WCF: P5 | (1) Houston Rockets vs (2) Golden State Warriors | HOU 3-2

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Who wins the series?

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Post#101 » by HotTubMike » Fri May 25, 2018 4:43 pm

Damn. Tough news about CP3. Hopefully he can go for a game 7 if necessary.
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Post#102 » by NY 567 » Fri May 25, 2018 4:45 pm

The Warriors like to bitch about injuries to role players like Iguodala, but their hasn't been in a team in NBA history that has benefited more from critical injuries to superstars in the playoffs then they have.
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Post#103 » by ken6199 » Fri May 25, 2018 4:45 pm

To whoever is still saying MDA runs his players to death by playing a 7 man lineup:
1. Paul and post-OKC Harden both having their career low playoff minutes per game
2. Compared to last year's playoffs, Harden is having higher PER, higher usage rate, higher WS/48, in less minutes, and his TOV% significantly dropped from 18% to 11%
3. MDA is using more frequent subs to counter the shorter rotation, which gives players more/shorter breaks for rest

He gave some quick "trials" in early games to Anderson, Nene, and Luc, none worked out, didn't hesitate to abandon them. Now he is forced to involve at least one of those guys with the absence of Paul.
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Post#104 » by Guest202 » Fri May 25, 2018 4:46 pm

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DowJones wrote:Round 1: Kawhi Leonard
Round 2: Demarcus Cousins
Round 3: Chris Paul

How does this always happen for Golden State?


I think it's 2 things...

1. The league's playing style these days. Faster pace, more opportunities for injuries. Being in great shape is paramount now.

2. The Warriors play very fast and hard, and I think they actually depend on their playing style causing other teams to just fall apart. They depend on wearing down other teams, and those players breaking down.


82 game regular season is freakin' insane. That's why. Most of the regular season games are so damn pointless too. Should be cut by 20.
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Post#105 » by Throwback24 » Fri May 25, 2018 4:47 pm

Get ready to go all in on the Warriors this game. Hope the line is -6
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Post#106 » by NY 567 » Fri May 25, 2018 4:47 pm

ken6199 wrote:To whoever is still saying MDA runs his players to death by playing a 7 man lineup:
1. Paul and post-OKC Harden both having their career low playoff minutes
2. Compared to last year's playoffs, Harden is having higher PER, higher usage rate, higher WS/48, in less minutes, and his TOV% significantly dropped from 18% to 11%
3. MDA is using more frequent subs to counter the shorter rotation, which gives players more/shorter breaks for rest

He gave some quick "trials" in early games to Anderson, Nene, and Luc, none worked out, didn't hesitate to abandon them. Now he is forced to involve at least one of those guys with the absence of Paul.


I'm guessing he starts Harden/Gordon/Green/Tucker/Capela and rolls with Luc off the bench.
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Post#107 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Fri May 25, 2018 4:49 pm

DowJones wrote:Round 1: Kawhi Leonard
Round 2: Demarcus Cousins
Round 3: Chris Paul

How does this always happen for Golden State?


Curry missed the entire first round of the playoffs. Of course they have the benefit have have 4 all stars on the team so if one goes player down that player isn't really missed.
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Post#108 » by cdubbz » Fri May 25, 2018 4:51 pm

NY 567 wrote:The Warriors like to bitch about injuries to role players like Iguodala, but their hasn't been in a team in NBA history that has benefited more from critical injuries to superstars in the playoffs then they have.


Can't say we haven't faced a ton of teams with injured stars, but so what? No one has control over it lol.

Stop complaining.
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Post#109 » by Jadoogar » Fri May 25, 2018 4:51 pm

DowJones wrote:Round 1: Kawhi Leonard
Round 2: Demarcus Cousins
Round 3: Chris Paul

How does this always happen for Golden State?


lol Leonard and cousins were out for significant period of time. Pretty unfair to include them.
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Post#110 » by cdubbz » Fri May 25, 2018 4:53 pm

DowJones wrote:Round 1: Kawhi Leonard
Round 2: Demarcus Cousins
Round 3: Chris Paul

How does this always happen for Golden State?


Players get injured every season and it's...RANDOM. Its unfortunate but it's part of the game. Irving & Gordon Hayward are out for the Celtics. Curry missed a round, Iggy missed a game, now cp3 is hurt. It happens.
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Post#111 » by NY 567 » Fri May 25, 2018 4:55 pm

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NY 567 wrote:The Warriors like to bitch about injuries to role players like Iguodala, but their hasn't been in a team in NBA history that has benefited more from critical injuries to superstars in the playoffs then they have.


Can't say we haven't faced a ton of teams with injured stars, but so what? No one has control over it lol.

Stop complaining.



It is what it is, but it's rather insufferable when at least half your fanbase whines about injuries to your 5th or 6th best player or how Curry has a stubbed pinky toe when you guys have lucked the F out with injuries to guys like Paul, Kawhi, Irving, Love, etc in critical junctures over the least 4 playoffs.
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Post#112 » by sikma42 » Fri May 25, 2018 4:57 pm

One thing I’ll say...it is very possible they could win this without CP3. They have two shots to win one game and they are going to have huge home court advantage in game 7.

The only thing is they need DAntoni to be creative and they need Harden to man up and be the MVP. But if they can keep their defense up, I can see it happening


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Post#113 » by TommyPoints » Fri May 25, 2018 4:59 pm

The Rockets will win any damn way.

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Post#114 » by cdubbz » Fri May 25, 2018 5:00 pm

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NY 567 wrote:The Warriors like to bitch about injuries to role players like Iguodala, but their hasn't been in a team in NBA history that has benefited more from critical injuries to superstars in the playoffs then they have.


Can't say we haven't faced a ton of teams with injured stars, but so what? No one has control over it lol.

Stop complaining.



It is what it is, but it's rather insufferable when at least half your fanbase whines about injuries to your 5th or 6th best player or how Curry has a stubbed pinky toe when you guys have lucked the F out with injuries to guys like Paul, Kawhi, Irving, Love, etc in critical junctures over the least 4 playoffs.


Uhhh...sorry for fans being upset a player is hurt. I'll tell everyone to stop.
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Post#115 » by NY 567 » Fri May 25, 2018 5:01 pm

Rockets can still win this series assuming they keep up this historic defense IF James Harden plays like James Harden and not a homeless man's Jordan Crawford on crack.
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Post#116 » by ken6199 » Fri May 25, 2018 5:02 pm

NY 567 wrote:
ken6199 wrote:To whoever is still saying MDA runs his players to death by playing a 7 man lineup:
1. Paul and post-OKC Harden both having their career low playoff minutes
2. Compared to last year's playoffs, Harden is having higher PER, higher usage rate, higher WS/48, in less minutes, and his TOV% significantly dropped from 18% to 11%
3. MDA is using more frequent subs to counter the shorter rotation, which gives players more/shorter breaks for rest

He gave some quick "trials" in early games to Anderson, Nene, and Luc, none worked out, didn't hesitate to abandon them. Now he is forced to involve at least one of those guys with the absence of Paul.


I'm guessing he starts Harden/Gordon/Green/Tucker/Capela and rolls with Luc off the bench.

Harden/Gordon/Ariza/Tucker/Capela

CP's extra 35 minutes will go to Green (20-25), and Luc (10-15).

Less play-making for sure, instead more Gordon ISO. On defense, say bye to KD-CP mismatch post up, because Gordon/Luc/Green all have bigger size and reasonable quickness to switch onto anyone. Help defense is a big concern, because I believe CP is the one who gives defensive instructions, eg. screen left, right, go over, under, etc etc.
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Post#117 » by Cavaliers2 » Fri May 25, 2018 5:04 pm

NY 567 wrote:
ken6199 wrote:To whoever is still saying MDA runs his players to death by playing a 7 man lineup:
1. Paul and post-OKC Harden both having their career low playoff minutes
2. Compared to last year's playoffs, Harden is having higher PER, higher usage rate, higher WS/48, in less minutes, and his TOV% significantly dropped from 18% to 11%
3. MDA is using more frequent subs to counter the shorter rotation, which gives players more/shorter breaks for rest

He gave some quick "trials" in early games to Anderson, Nene, and Luc, none worked out, didn't hesitate to abandon them. Now he is forced to involve at least one of those guys with the absence of Paul.


I'm guessing he starts Harden/Gordon/Green/Tucker/Capela and rolls with Luc off the bench.

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Post#118 » by lambchop » Fri May 25, 2018 5:06 pm

sikma42 wrote:One thing I’ll say...it is very possible they could win this without CP3. They have two shots to win one game and they are going to have huge home court advantage in game 7.

The only thing is they need DAntoni to be creative and they need Harden to man up and be the MVP. But if they can keep their defense up, I can see it happening


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It would be the greatest accomplishment in nba history imo. It would take excellent coaching, excellent harden, amazing role player play etc.
Golden State will feel comfortable now and no team or player is better when they are comfortable, up 25 etc. than the dubs and steph. That's when they shine brightest
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Post#119 » by NY 567 » Fri May 25, 2018 5:10 pm

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NY 567 wrote:
ken6199 wrote:To whoever is still saying MDA runs his players to death by playing a 7 man lineup:
1. Paul and post-OKC Harden both having their career low playoff minutes
2. Compared to last year's playoffs, Harden is having higher PER, higher usage rate, higher WS/48, in less minutes, and his TOV% significantly dropped from 18% to 11%
3. MDA is using more frequent subs to counter the shorter rotation, which gives players more/shorter breaks for rest

He gave some quick "trials" in early games to Anderson, Nene, and Luc, none worked out, didn't hesitate to abandon them. Now he is forced to involve at least one of those guys with the absence of Paul.


I'm guessing he starts Harden/Gordon/Green/Tucker/Capela and rolls with Luc off the bench.

Did something happen to ariza?


He totally slipped my mind for whatever reason, lol.
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Post#120 » by BeibsInTheTrap » Fri May 25, 2018 5:13 pm

NY 567 wrote:The Warriors like to bitch about injuries to role players like Iguodala, but their hasn't been in a team in NBA history that has benefited more from critical injuries to superstars in the playoffs then they have.

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