Re: WCF: P6 | (1) Houston Rockets vs (2) Golden State Warriors | GS WINS 4-3

[KingCurry]

And who would've helped contain the turnovers. Who is the rockets steady calm cool and collected leader, Chris Paul. The rockets have basically no chance without him, it went from an epic series to another Golden State laugher. Yes I know I sound bitter but seeing another superstar injured against Golden State in a huge series is just so depressing.

funny how the narrative changes. It went from Warriors would steamroll the Rockets and nobody would watch to it being an epic series to Warriors got lucky

[xfactor]

And who would've helped contain the turnovers. Who is the rockets steady calm cool and collected leader, Chris Paul. The rockets have basically no chance without him, it went from an epic series to another Golden State laugher. Yes I know I sound bitter but seeing another superstar injured against Golden State in a huge series is just so depressing.

funny how the narrative changes. It went from Warriors would steamroll the Rockets and nobody would watch to it being an epic series to Warriors got lucky

So true. KD ruined the league. Dubs will steamroll. No parity, No one will watch... blah blah blah...

the following week...

Luckiest team ever.

You can't make this **** up!

[cdubbz]

And who would've helped contain the turnovers. Who is the rockets steady calm cool and collected leader, Chris Paul. The rockets have basically no chance without him, it went from an epic series to another Golden State laugher. Yes I know I sound bitter but seeing another superstar injured against Golden State in a huge series is just so depressing.

funny how the narrative changes. It went from Warriors would steamroll the Rockets and nobody would watch to it being an epic series to Warriors got lucky

So true. KD ruined the league. Dubs will steamroll. No parity, No one will watch... blah blah blah...

the following week...

Luckiest team ever.

You can't make this **** up!

[lakerz12]

And who would've helped contain the turnovers. Who is the rockets steady calm cool and collected leader, Chris Paul. The rockets have basically no chance without him, it went from an epic series to another Golden State laugher. Yes I know I sound bitter but seeing another superstar injured against Golden State in a huge series is just so depressing.

funny how the narrative changes. It went from Warriors would steamroll the Rockets and nobody would watch to it being an epic series to Warriors got lucky

So true. KD ruined the league. Dubs will steamroll. No parity, No one will watch... blah blah blah...

the following week...

Luckiest team ever.

You can't make this **** up!

Don't forget "KD Ruined the Warriors". He went from ruining the NBA by being too good to ruining the Warriors with his iso ball in a 1 week span.

Oh, I forgot, it was also said that he "saved Curry's career". KD is a busy guy.

[nbafan38]

funny how the narrative changes. It went from Warriors would steamroll the Rockets and nobody would watch to it being an epic series to Warriors got lucky

So true. KD ruined the league. Dubs will steamroll. No parity, No one will watch... blah blah blah...

the following week...

Luckiest team ever.

You can't make this **** up!

Don't forget "KD Ruined the Warriors". He went from ruining the NBA for being too good to ruining the Warriors with his iso ball in a 1 week span.

Actually both are true, he is an elite scorer and did make the warriors more unbeatable but he also ruined their style of play with his iso ball.

[lakerz12]

So true. KD ruined the league. Dubs will steamroll. No parity, No one will watch... blah blah blah...

the following week...

Luckiest team ever.

You can't make this **** up!

Don't forget "KD Ruined the Warriors". He went from ruining the NBA for being too good to ruining the Warriors with his iso ball in a 1 week span.

Actually both are true, he is an elite scorer and did make the warriors more unbeatable but he also ruined their style of play with his iso ball.

How come that has only been said this series?

They didn't look so bad holding the trophy last year.

Their ball movement is still good. Their style of play has not been ruined.

Maybe Curry not being 100%, Iguadola being out, and the good play of Houston slowed them down a bit.

[og15]

Chris Paul really trying to play but hasnt even tested out the Hamstring... idk guys i dont think hes gonna play.........

https://clutchpoints.com/rockets-news-chris-paul-questionable-for-game-7-final-decision-to-be-made-monday-afternoon/

I'd think that the best way is to wait until totally necessary to test it out. If he tests it out early and it aggravates anything, then he's definitely not playing.

[CS707]

Agreed. This Houston team is a great team. 65 wins and the 2-1 reg season record did not happen by accident. The warriors are a bit tired, a bit off their peak, a bit aging and were not historically lucky with health relative to competitors this year. Almost no one can be as consistent as LBJ, Jordan, KAJ, even todays superstars. That is why none of the young players should be discussed in same sentence with the all time greats until their whole careers are done. Only LBJ, near his twighlight with a decades long portfolio, in that group yet. Young stars have ups and downs...it is normal and leads to different result every game. Us older guys who have seen many generations of stars get this.

People forget many feel CP3 has been and is the best PG in the leaque and Harden the best pure scorer. GS may be the best team, when groving, but when not, Houston is the next best. Lets enjoy this!

Hard to enjoy it when one team loses the heart and soul of their team after game 5. Not the warriors fault but as a basketball fan it's like a complete blow to the chest, I can barely even watch game 7 if Paul doesn't play.

I sadly agree. CP3 spent his career preparing and a tired hammy may do him in. Can we hope it wasnt as bad as thought and inflamation is down by tomorrow?

Not me. CP3 is an ass.

Winning would be sweet but winning with him watching from the bench (again) would be even sweeter.

[bakesale]

I re-watched game 6 and honestly don't see how that game was "rigged" for the Warriors???

If you want to show me a blow by blow account proving otherwise I'm open to discussion.

But to me there wasn't anything overly egregious outside of a normal amount of human error which happens in any other game. And in a tight playoff game where emotions are riding high the opposition coach/player reacts strongly if they are hard done by. Even Klay's emotions were strong in this game. But that didn't really happen. Certainly not anymore than any other game.

[floppymoose]

Don't forget "KD Ruined the Warriors". He went from ruining the NBA for being too good to ruining the Warriors with his iso ball in a 1 week span.

Actually both are true, he is an elite scorer and did make the warriors more unbeatable but he also ruined their style of play with his iso ball.

How come that has only been said this series?

They didn't look so bad holding the trophy last year.

Their ball movement is still good. Their style of play has not been ruined.

Maybe Curry not being 100%, Iguadola being out, and the good play of Houston slowed them down a bit.

As a longtime Warriors fan who has seen most games of both pre- and post-KD Warriors, his effect on the offense is... interesting.

Last year he did a decent job of integrating himself. At times I felt he reverted to one on one play, but:
1) he limited that just enough to avoid it being a problem
2) his one on one ability made him the playoff end of possession bail-out guy the Warriors needed.

This year Curry missed a lot of games and KD had to carry more load. That resulted in him going to one on one play a lot more. And since Curry has come back, he's had difficulty re-adjusting his play style. It really showed in game 4, where I think he actually cost the Warriors the game (I realize that will be controversial - if you look at the box score you will be fooled).

In game 6 he established that he is capable of fitting into the Warriors offensive machine again. But I'm nervous because I don't know if he and the rest of the team will be able to stay on the same page in a road playoff game. They won't get the same calls they got at home. They are going to get in foul trouble, and KD is going to spend more time on the floor without Curry, or without Klay, or without Green. That will be the true test. If he starts chucking up jumpers then, GS will lose.

I'll also take this chance to say that having home court is huge. GSW screwed up by not securing home court, and HOU is to be commended for a great regular season to earn it.

[michaelm]

Actually both are true, he is an elite scorer and did make the warriors more unbeatable but he also ruined their style of play with his iso ball.

How come that has only been said this series?

They didn't look so bad holding the trophy last year.

Their ball movement is still good. Their style of play has not been ruined.

Maybe Curry not being 100%, Iguadola being out, and the good play of Houston slowed them down a bit.

As a longtime Warriors fan who has seen most games of both pre- and post-KD Warriors, his effect on the offense is... interesting.

Last year he did a decent job of integrating himself. At times I felt he reverted to one on one play, but:
1) he limited that just enough to avoid it being a problem
2) his one on one ability made him the playoff end of possession bail-out guy the Warriors needed.

This year Curry missed a lot of games and KD had to carry more load. That resulted in him going to one on one play a lot more. And since Curry has come back, he's had difficulty re-adjusting his play style. It really showed in game 4, where I think he actually cost the Warriors the game (I realize that will be controversial - if you look at the box score you will be fooled).

In game 6 he established that he is capable of fitting into the Warriors offensive machine again. But I'm nervous because I don't know if he and the rest of the team will be able to stay on the same page in a road playoff game. They won't get the same calls they got at home. They are going to get in foul trouble, and KD is going to spend more time on the floor without Curry, or without Klay, or without Green. That will be the true test. If he starts chucking up jumpers then, GS will lose.

I'll also take this chance to say that having home court is huge. GSW screwed up by not securing home court, and HOU is to be commended for a great regular season to earn it.

Sure. But while it is apparently unlucky instead of pretty much expected for Chris Paul not to make it through the pay-offs uninjured, apparently GSW have all the luck so all the regular injuries they had can’t have had any influence on their regular season record.

I am nervous about the coming game. As someone else has said, all the criticism Durant still attracts probably goads him into playing hero ball. He didn’t look happy in the post game 6 press conference.

[nbafan38]

How come that has only been said this series?

They didn't look so bad holding the trophy last year.

Their ball movement is still good. Their style of play has not been ruined.

Maybe Curry not being 100%, Iguadola being out, and the good play of Houston slowed them down a bit.

As a longtime Warriors fan who has seen most games of both pre- and post-KD Warriors, his effect on the offense is... interesting.

Last year he did a decent job of integrating himself. At times I felt he reverted to one on one play, but:
1) he limited that just enough to avoid it being a problem
2) his one on one ability made him the playoff end of possession bail-out guy the Warriors needed.

This year Curry missed a lot of games and KD had to carry more load. That resulted in him going to one on one play a lot more. And since Curry has come back, he's had difficulty re-adjusting his play style. It really showed in game 4, where I think he actually cost the Warriors the game (I realize that will be controversial - if you look at the box score you will be fooled).

In game 6 he established that he is capable of fitting into the Warriors offensive machine again. But I'm nervous because I don't know if he and the rest of the team will be able to stay on the same page in a road playoff game. They won't get the same calls they got at home. They are going to get in foul trouble, and KD is going to spend more time on the floor without Curry, or without Klay, or without Green. That will be the true test. If he starts chucking up jumpers then, GS will lose.

I'll also take this chance to say that having home court is huge. GSW screwed up by not securing home court, and HOU is to be commended for a great regular season to earn it.

Sure. But while it is apparently unlucky instead of pretty much expected for Chris Paul not to make it through the pay-offs uninjured, apparently GSW have all the luck so all the regular injuries they had can’t have had any influence on their regular season record.

I am nervous about the coming game. As someone else has said, all the criticism Durant still attracts probably goads him into wanting to play hero ball.

Can't compare regular season injuries to injuries in game 7. Golden State without Iggy, Houston without Paul. Lets hope both can play in game 7 although it's unlikely.

[michaelm]

As a longtime Warriors fan who has seen most games of both pre- and post-KD Warriors, his effect on the offense is... interesting.

Last year he did a decent job of integrating himself. At times I felt he reverted to one on one play, but:
1) he limited that just enough to avoid it being a problem
2) his one on one ability made him the playoff end of possession bail-out guy the Warriors needed.

This year Curry missed a lot of games and KD had to carry more load. That resulted in him going to one on one play a lot more. And since Curry has come back, he's had difficulty re-adjusting his play style. It really showed in game 4, where I think he actually cost the Warriors the game (I realize that will be controversial - if you look at the box score you will be fooled).

In game 6 he established that he is capable of fitting into the Warriors offensive machine again. But I'm nervous because I don't know if he and the rest of the team will be able to stay on the same page in a road playoff game. They won't get the same calls they got at home. They are going to get in foul trouble, and KD is going to spend more time on the floor without Curry, or without Klay, or without Green. That will be the true test. If he starts chucking up jumpers then, GS will lose.

I'll also take this chance to say that having home court is huge. GSW screwed up by not securing home court, and HOU is to be commended for a great regular season to earn it.

Sure. But while it is apparently unlucky instead of pretty much expected for Chris Paul not to make it through the pay-offs uninjured, apparently GSW have all the luck so all the regular injuries they had can’t have had any influence on their regular season record.

I am nervous about the coming game. As someone else has said, all the criticism Durant still attracts probably goads him into wanting to play hero ball.

Can't compare regular season injuries to injuries in game 7. Golden State without Iggy, Houston without Paul. Lets hope both can play in game 7 although it's unlikely.

Of course everyone wants both teams to be at full strength, but it isn’t going to happen.

Injuries are part of the game, regular season or play-offs, they are just more likely if a crucial player is relatively small/non-robust with a past history of being frequently injured, like Paul, Irving and Curry, hence GSW getting some insurance by making the move which so distresses you in acquiring Durant. My talk of GSW’s regular season injuries was in the context of Floppy’s post concerning Houston having HCA for the 7th WCF game, an advantage which may prove crucial, and which of course they fully deserved. I was just pointing out that contrary to you and others GSW are not always lucky with injuries

[nbafan38]

Sure. But while it is apparently unlucky instead of pretty much expected for Chris Paul not to make it through the pay-offs uninjured, apparently GSW have all the luck so all the regular injuries they had can’t have had any influence on their regular season record.

I am nervous about the coming game. As someone else has said, all the criticism Durant still attracts probably goads him into wanting to play hero ball.

Can't compare regular season injuries to injuries in game 7. Golden State without Iggy, Houston without Paul. Lets hope both can play in game 7 although it's unlikely.

Of course everyone wants both teams to be at full strength, but it isn’t going to happen.

Injuries are part of the game, regular season or play-offs, they are just more likely if a crucial player is relatively small/non-robust with a past history of being frequently injured, like Paul, Irving and Curry, hence GSW getting some insurance by making the move which so distresses you in acquiring Durant. My talk of GSW’s regular season injuries was in the context of Floppy’s post concerning Houston having HCA for the 7th WCF game, an advantage which may prove crucial, and which of course they fully deserved. I was just pointing out that contrary to you and others GSW are not always lucky with injuries

Well no they haven't had 100% health by any means but overall they have been fairly fortunate with injuries compared to their opponents, I don't know how this can be disputed. They haven't had any of their big 4 actually out of any conference finals or finals game during this run. This may be kudos for them for keeping players healthy but it's disappointing for fans of the rest of the league to see their opponents not at full strength during many of these series especially when they already have such an advantage

[michaelm]

Can't compare regular season injuries to injuries in game 7. Golden State without Iggy, Houston without Paul. Lets hope both can play in game 7 although it's unlikely.

Of course everyone wants both teams to be at full strength, but it isn’t going to happen.

Injuries are part of the game, regular season or play-offs, they are just more likely if a crucial player is relatively small/non-robust with a past history of being frequently injured, like Paul, Irving and Curry, hence GSW getting some insurance by making the move which so distresses you in acquiring Durant. My talk of GSW’s regular season injuries was in the context of Floppy’s post concerning Houston having HCA for the 7th WCF game, an advantage which may prove crucial, and which of course they fully deserved. I was just pointing out that contrary to you and others GSW are not always lucky with injuries

Well no they haven't had 100% health by any means but overall they have been fairly fortunate with injuries compared to their opponents, I don't know how this can be disputed. They haven't had any of their big 4 actually out of any conference finals or finals game during this run.

Subtle distinctions seems to be your metier.

They have had their most crucial player Curry coming off injuries after missing games in play-offs twice in the last 4 seasons, and even your apparently certain knowledge that they wouldn’t bring him back early from said injuries precisely because it is the play-offs doesn’t allow for him having lost form or fitness during said lay-offs. If you are playing a LeBron led team your LeBron stopper is close to as crucial as Curry, and ‘dala was clearly hampered in 2016, as was Bogut (actually injured by a Cavs player, as Iguodala was by a Houston player in this series, both accidents and part of the sport nevertheless) which left LeBron and Kyrie a freer path to the rim where they are rather good no matter how good your rim protector anyway. The Mark Jackson coached teams prior to the first title run had an horrendous run with injuries in the play-offs, possibly contributory to them losing, including a loss against the Clippers with Chris Paul.

It is what it is as far as I am concerned, injuries are part of this game and most other games, and any team can only play against whoever turns up on the day to play them.

[Nowitness]

The fate of the universe is in your hands Houston

[floppymoose]

I really like the KD broke the league discussion more than the Warriors are so lucky discussion. Let's get back to that one.

[SFour]

Rockets better win...I can't stand another Warriors-Cavs finals

[nbafan38]

Please please rockets win this somehow someway now that Cleveland won, need to at least have a chances at a watchable finals.

[michaelm]

I really like the KD broke the league discussion more than the Warriors are so lucky discussion. Let's get back to that one.

Get with it.

The GSW broke the league applied before Iguodala got injured, at which time the same posters running the GSW are lucky with injuries narrative now were predicting a 4:1 series result.