Pre Draft Discussion

[Kerrsed]

[bwgood77]

I like him. Maybe more than Shai. I think being older could be a good thing for our team, and he has the longer wingspan and shoots a way higher volume of 3s. Shai may end up the better player though and seems fairly solid so I'd probably be ok with either one at 16.

[jcsunsfan]

I like Shake and Shai. I also like Landry Shamet, but his measurables were not as good at the combine.

[Kerrsed]

I like him. Maybe more than Shai. I think being older could be a good thing for our team, and he has the longer wingspan and shoots a way higher volume of 3s. Shai may end up the better player though and seems fairly solid so I'd probably be ok with either one at 16.

Its weird, i think Shai has the higher ceiling but Shake has a much higher floor, and yet i'd take Shake in this instance. To me they are both defensive players first and foremost. Playmaking and Offence come 2nd and 3rd. Now i believe when it comes to these kinds of players, it seems almost always better to take the safer pick, the highest floor guys. WHile most likely neither become star players, Shake seems like one of those guys that will be productive enough in the league and make a bigger impact where he will end up having a 10+ year career, where i dont think Shai will ever reach that ceiling and be out of the league in under 5 (after being traded from team to team to team).

I usually always tend to go higher ceiling, but not in this case.

[bwgood77]

I like him. Maybe more than Shai. I think being older could be a good thing for our team, and he has the longer wingspan and shoots a way higher volume of 3s. Shai may end up the better player though and seems fairly solid so I'd probably be ok with either one at 16.

Its weird, i think Shai has the higher ceiling but Shake has a much higher floor, and yet i'd take Shake in this instance. To me they are both defensive players first and foremost. Playmaking and Offence come 2nd and 3rd. Now i believe when it comes to these kinds of players, it seems almost always better to take the safer pick, the highest floor guys. WHile most likely neither become star players, Shake seems like one of those guys that will be productive enough in the league and make a bigger impact where he will end up having a 10+ year career, where i dont think Shai will ever reach that ceiling and be out of the league in under 5 (after being traded from team to team to team).

I usually always tend to go higher ceiling, but not in this case.

Plus for our team with Book it might make sense to go with the older more experienced guy. And you have to feel good about his shooting translating considering the volume...with Shai it was pretty low volume.

[BobbieL]

I like him. Maybe more than Shai. I think being older could be a good thing for our team, and he has the longer wingspan and shoots a way higher volume of 3s. Shai may end up the better player though and seems fairly solid so I'd probably be ok with either one at 16.

Its weird, i think Shai has the higher ceiling but Shake has a much higher floor, and yet i'd take Shake in this instance. To me they are both defensive players first and foremost. Playmaking and Offence come 2nd and 3rd. Now i believe when it comes to these kinds of players, it seems almost always better to take the safer pick, the highest floor guys. WHile most likely neither become star players, Shake seems like one of those guys that will be productive enough in the league and make a bigger impact where he will end up having a 10+ year career, where i dont think Shai will ever reach that ceiling and be out of the league in under 5 (after being traded from team to team to team).

I usually always tend to go higher ceiling, but not in this case.

Plus for our team with Book it might make sense to go with the older more experienced guy. And you have to feel good about his shooting translating considering the volume...with Shai it was pretty low volume.

I feel that way about the 16th pick as well as the 31st pick - who can come in and help more now over the next five years. As has been said - may not have the ceiling if say Ryan were to draft a guy at 16 that is a swing for the fences over a more known "solid" player but with this roster - its young enough -- need players that contribute off the bench sooner. I am fine not swinging at either pick 16 or 31. Not saying going to find a guy like Donovan Mitchell at 16 just because you take an older player - but for this teams needs moving forward - experienced at both picks to me.

[bwgood77]

Wonder if he's talking about someone who worked out today like Shake.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

SGA feels like the best fit of that mid round group but it also doesn't seem likely he makes it to 16.

If he's still there at 12 and Charlotte decides not to blow it up and keep kemba this is the spot they could potentially get to packaging 16 with 31 or chriss to jump 4 spots. If Charlotte is trying a quick retool they could value that extra assett and still get a similar tier player at 16.

[Saberestar]

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[WeekapaugGroove]

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Simons is an interesting option at 31. Hes so raw there would be zero pressure to play him and he could be treated like a draft and stash where he goes to flagstaff for the entire year.

[bwgood77]

You mustn't have looked at ANY mocks. Besides Mitchell Robinson , there are ZERO bigs left in the 1st round after the 12th pick or so. The only big that i see slipping past us ever is Robert Williams, and thats even very rare. Hell, even looking at mocks showing 2nd rounds, there is only a handful of PFs & Cs, and those 4 or 5 are projected to be among the last picks.

Seriously, look at any mock you want (Or even better look at multiple mocks), and count how many bigs there are outside the top 10 picks. This is a very heavy SG/SF draft and really lacking in bigs.

Are you no longer high on Mitchell Robinson?

Oh i totally am, but the FO isn't going to burn a draft pick on him with no medical records, no workouts, and not seeing him play actual basketball in over a year.

It really doesn't seem like he'd shut down everything for a promise at 25. That could be a lot of money he's giving up.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Are you no longer high on Mitchell Robinson?

Oh i totally am, but the FO isn't going to burn a draft pick on him with no medical records, no workouts, and not seeing him play actual basketball in over a year.

It really doesn't seem like he'd shut down everything for a promise at 25. That could be a lot of money he's giving up.

If it were any team other than LA, I wouldn't believe it.

[bigfoot]

Oh i totally am, but the FO isn't going to burn a draft pick on him with no medical records, no workouts, and not seeing him play actual basketball in over a year.

It really doesn't seem like he'd shut down everything for a promise at 25. That could be a lot of money he's giving up.

If it were any team other than LA, I wouldn't believe it.

A lot of risk to draft him as a first round pick with guaranteed money. Good thing Suns have 31st pick and if he is still on the board could consider getting him. Not an impressive workout here.

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[matt131]

It really doesn't seem like he'd shut down everything for a promise at 25. That could be a lot of money he's giving up.

If it were any team other than LA, I wouldn't believe it.

A lot of risk to draft him as a first round pick with guaranteed money. Good thing Suns have 31st pick and if he is still on the board could consider getting him. Not an impressive workout here.

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This guy looks tall and athletic...how is he not in contention for the number 1 pick? tall and athletic guys sure dont come around that often in the NBA

[bwgood77]

Oh i totally am, but the FO isn't going to burn a draft pick on him with no medical records, no workouts, and not seeing him play actual basketball in over a year.

It really doesn't seem like he'd shut down everything for a promise at 25. That could be a lot of money he's giving up.

If it were any team other than LA, I wouldn't believe it.

It just seems like so little info to give someone a promise on. Aran Smith of nbadraft.net had reported they are interested, but seems a little premature to give a promise that early. But perhaps if they are going after a couple of wings (George and LeBron) they would want a shot blocking C and to move on from Randle/Lopez.

But it could easily just be an agent tactic if he thinks the medicals wouldn't go over well and his chances are better with a rumor and not releasing them..

Rumors are out there that Robinson has a promise from an NBA team, but try to avoid these stories. How does that help the team? If anything, it is a detriment because another club could trade ahead of them and take their player. Player’s agents leak those stories to try to drum up interest in their talent. Not a bad strategy for the athlete, but does not mean you have to believe their tales.

https://aroyalpain.com/2018/05/27/2018-nba-draft-mitchell-robinson-mystery-prospect/4/

[8on]

If it were any team other than LA, I wouldn't believe it.

A lot of risk to draft him as a first round pick with guaranteed money. Good thing Suns have 31st pick and if he is still on the board could consider getting him. Not an impressive workout here.

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This guy looks tall and athletic...how is he not in contention for the number 1 pick? tall and athletic guys sure dont come around that often in the NBA

because we can get him at 16, hopefully

[Villalobos]

Mitchell's a second rounder imo. reminds me of Deyonta Davis who was mocked really high (around top 10) and dropped like a rock on draft day

[thamadkant]

Hutchinson looks good. Reminds me of a Middleton type player. Happy to be a starter contributing both sides. Landry Fields as his floor

[kennydorglas]

Apparently Aaron Holiday killed our 3-minute drill.

[Wilber85]

Wonder if he's talking about someone who worked out today like Shake.

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Get a life! Let the NBA players enjoy life. Not every tweet is meant towards the SUNS!

Maybe they are playing darts . Who knows