Re: WCF: P6 | (1) Houston Rockets vs (2) Golden State Warriors | GS WINS 4-3

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Who is making the Finals?

Golden State (I'm a Golden State Fan)
41
15%
Golden State (I'm a Houston Fan)
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4%
Golden State (Neutral Fan)
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50%
Houston Rockets (I'm a Houston Fan)
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3%
Houston Rockets (I'm a Golden State Fan)
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2%
Houston Rockets (Neutral Fan)
67
25%
 
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Post#161 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon May 28, 2018 5:28 pm

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:People already blaming the officials before the game even starts.

Pathetic. If James Harden is the MVP he should win this game. Would love to see the "refs" stop him.

So what are Curry and Durant if the Rockets win this game? Fake MVP's?


Curry and Durant won't win the MVP this year.

If you're the MVP with a Game 7 at home, you should be able to advance to the Finals.

Golden State is not unbeatable.
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Post#162 » by Guest202 » Mon May 28, 2018 5:40 pm

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Cityboy4life82 wrote:My people said CP3 is out for this game. Test didn’t come back good. He technically could play but there is risk of further damage which could be very severe.


I understand, but even knowing that i would play if i was the player, after the game you have 6 months to rest.


:roll: :lol: Maybe if he was signed to a max last summer. But CP needs to sign THIS summer. That's $200M+ on the line, broski.
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Post#163 » by Guest202 » Mon May 28, 2018 5:42 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:People already blaming the officials before the game even starts.

Pathetic. If James Harden is the MVP he should win this game. Would love to see the "refs" stop him.


I think the league will certainly try to give Harden the win tonight. The league would LOVE to give Bron another trophy. But if Harden (and Gordon) are bricking 3s and/or Warriors are splashing 3s there's not much refs can do.
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Post#164 » by lebron stopper » Mon May 28, 2018 6:15 pm

Interestingly Golden State has won 1 Game 7 and lost 2 Game 7s.

Warriors lost to Clippers in 2014
Thunder lost to Warriors in 2016 (3-1 comeback)
Warriors lost to Cavaliers in 2016 (3-1 comeback)

I still think Warriors win today thanks to Chris Paul's injury. But who knows what happens...
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Post#165 » by nbafan38 » Mon May 28, 2018 6:19 pm

hongdayuan wrote:as a warriors/curry fan, I'm a lot less emotionally invested in this game 7 than the 2016 finals game 7. Yes I know its WCF vs finals and it is harden vs LeBron, but a huge part has been the warriors been disappointing in this series. great they stole game 1 and had two blowouts, but the complacency has shown and the careless turnovers are driving me crazy. I don't think even warriors fans should deny that game 7 would be a lot less predictable if paul is healthy.

for today's game, please run a lot of pnr with curry and any one of kd/klay/dray. no Durant elbow iso unless they have tried to ran a few plays and are down 6 seconds on the shotclock. don't play david west unless they are up by 30. don't let Gerald green and PJ tucker rain threes on you and I can't see the warriors lose.


A reasonable warriors fan, nice. Agree with everything you said.
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Post#166 » by nbafan38 » Mon May 28, 2018 6:21 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
og15 wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:People already blaming the officials before the game even starts.

Pathetic. If James Harden is the MVP he should win this game. Would love to see the "refs" stop him.

So what are Curry and Durant if the Rockets win this game? Fake MVP's?


Curry and Durant won't win the MVP this year.

If you're the MVP with a Game 7 at home, you should be able to advance to the Finals.

Golden State is not unbeatable.


He needs to play better than he has the last two games, I'll give you that. However he's facing an all time great team and likely will be playing without his 2nd best player so can't necessarily say he should advance to the finals. If the warriors play to their potential tonight they advance, if they don't, rockets have a chance.
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Post#167 » by ILOVEIT » Mon May 28, 2018 6:25 pm

ugh....killing me...I just have no idea how the Warriors and Rockets are going to come out this game 7....Both tight and tentative? Rockets explode with threes like game 6? If I had to guess it would be the Warriors controlling most of the game but faultering in the end and the outcome decided by some crazy scrum at the end....
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Post#168 » by cdubbz » Mon May 28, 2018 6:36 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:ugh....killing me...I just have no idea how the Warriors and Rockets are going to come out this game 7....Both tight and tentative? Rockets explode with threes like game 6? If I had to guess it would be the Warriors controlling most of the game but faultering in the end and the outcome decided by some crazy scrum at the end....


Sounds about right. Warriors haven't put together a full game more than once this series.
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Post#169 » by xfactor » Mon May 28, 2018 6:41 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:ugh....killing me...I just have no idea how the Warriors and Rockets are going to come out this game 7....Both tight and tentative? Rockets explode with threes like game 6? If I had to guess it would be the Warriors controlling most of the game but faultering in the end and the outcome decided by some crazy scrum at the end....


I tend to agree. This game 7 wont be pretty at all. Both teams are predictably exhausted, bruised and battered. A veritable war of attrition. The only thing one can add is a couple of overtime sessions. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Cavs beat either team in the Finals, as the Dubs and Rockets are killing each other off.
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Post#170 » by og15 » Mon May 28, 2018 6:42 pm

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og15 wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:People already blaming the officials before the game even starts.

Pathetic. If James Harden is the MVP he should win this game. Would love to see the "refs" stop him.

So what are Curry and Durant if the Rockets win this game? Fake MVP's?


Curry and Durant won't win the MVP this year.

If you're the MVP with a Game 7 at home, you should be able to advance to the Finals.

Golden State is not unbeatable.
Tell that to last years MVP losing in 5 in the first round, or the 2016 MVP losing after being up 3-1 as well as losing game 7 at home.

Since when was it a rule that an MVP should win a game against a team people consider better while the second best player who allowed them to even be in this position will either be out or really limited? You're telling people to be objective, but you think this is an objective statement? Sure, the Warriors aren't unbeatable, but games aren't 1v1 battles. Harden could score 50 and the Rockets still lose. The fact that you keep referring to this as of its Harden alone and not the Rockets as a team is the problem in itself. You think the Cavs win if LeBron played like he did but Jeff Green doesn't show up or the Cavs can't defend?

The requirement is that Harden shows up and plays like an MVP. The actual outcome will be based on much more then just how he plays. If both teams play to their best, the Warriors likely win by double digits despite whatever Harden does, so that's a factor too.
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Post#171 » by Mylie10 » Mon May 28, 2018 6:43 pm

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Mylie10 wrote:Paul will play tonight....his legacy is calling


He will probably give it a go, but pulled hammies suck. Very high chance he aggravates it and makes it much worse.


They do suck, I've had one myself. He has the whole off season to rest it, plus he has his personal insurance agent to make sure he's taken care of.
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Post#172 » by og15 » Mon May 28, 2018 6:45 pm

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Mylie10 wrote:Paul will play tonight....his legacy is calling


He will probably give it a go, but pulled hammies suck. Very high chance he aggravates it and makes it much worse.


They do suck, I've had one myself. He has the whole off season to rest it, plus he has his personal insurance agent to make sure he's taken care of.

Even if he can push through it, the question becomes what level of fitness is he at. If he can still move decently and defend and score, great, better than nothing, but if he's just out there being a pylon, well...
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Post#173 » by Mylie10 » Mon May 28, 2018 6:48 pm

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rich316 wrote:
He will probably give it a go, but pulled hammies suck. Very high chance he aggravates it and makes it much worse.


They do suck, I've had one myself. He has the whole off season to rest it, plus he has his personal insurance agent to make sure he's taken care of.

Even if he can push through it, the question becomes what level of fitness is he at. If he can still move decently and defend and score, great, better than nothing, but if he's just out there being a pylon, well...


You make a good point, but he is a calming influence to that team and an excellent free throw shooter. You obviously would have to monitor his minutes, but I think he goes. It's just a gut feeling I have.

He calms them down and Iguodala calms down the Warriors. The Warriors are like chickens with their heads cut off sometimes without Iguodala settling them.
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Post#174 » by Hello Brooklyn » Mon May 28, 2018 6:49 pm

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og15 wrote:So what are Curry and Durant if the Rockets win this game? Fake MVP's?


Curry and Durant won't win the MVP this year.

If you're the MVP with a Game 7 at home, you should be able to advance to the Finals.

Golden State is not unbeatable.
Tell that to last years MVP losing in 5 in the first round, or the 2016 MVP losing after being up 3-1 as well as losing game 7 at home.

Since when was it a rule that an MVP should win a game against a team people consider better while the second best player who allowed them to even be in this position will either be out or really limited? You're telling people to be objective, but you think this is an objective statement? Sure, the Warriors aren't unbeatable, but games aren't 1v1 battles. Harden could score 50 and the Rockets still lose. The fact that you keep referring to this as of its Harden alone and not the Rockets as a team is the problem in itself. You think the Cavs win if LeBron played like he did but Jeff Green doesn't show up or the Cavs can't defend?

The requirement is that Harden shows up and plays like an MVP. The actual outcome will be based on much more then just how he plays. If both teams play to their best, the Warriors likely win by double digits despite whatever Harden does, so that's a factor too.


LOL Westbrook getting the MVP last year was one of the biggest sports travesties I have seen. You're not going to get me to defend that one.

I never said it was a rule that the MVP should win every game. Stop trying to create a Strawman.

If you're really the most valuable player with a Game 7 in your house to get to the Finals, you should be able to win. That's what it takes.

If you wanna keep making excuses for him go ahead. This is Harden's legacy game. This is where he will be judged amongst the greats. Nobody is going to care/remember the circumstances 10 years down the line.

Harden needs to will his team to win. I saw Chris Paul do just that in Game 4 and 5 and hes not as talented as Harden is.
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Post#175 » by cdubbz » Mon May 28, 2018 6:54 pm

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ILOVEIT wrote:ugh....killing me...I just have no idea how the Warriors and Rockets are going to come out this game 7....Both tight and tentative? Rockets explode with threes like game 6? If I had to guess it would be the Warriors controlling most of the game but faultering in the end and the outcome decided by some crazy scrum at the end....


I tend to agree. This game 7 wont be pretty at all. Both teams are predictably exhausted, bruised and battered. A veritable war of attrition. The only thing one can add is a couple of overtime sessions. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Cavs beat either team in the Finals, as the Dubs and Rockets are killing each other off.


Eh I don't think the Cavs have a chance of winning more than a game against either Rockets or Warriors. LeBron has played more games already and he's all they have
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Post#176 » by and1GS » Mon May 28, 2018 6:57 pm

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og15 wrote:
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They do suck, I've had one myself. He has the whole off season to rest it, plus he has his personal insurance agent to make sure he's taken care of.

Even if he can push through it, the question becomes what level of fitness is he at. If he can still move decently and defend and score, great, better than nothing, but if he's just out there being a pylon, well...


You make a good point, but he is a calming influence to that team and an excellent free throw shooter. You obviously would have to monitor his minutes, but I think he goes. It's just a gut feeling I have.

He calms them down and Iguodala calms down the Warriors. The Warriors are like chickens with their heads cut off sometimes without Iguodala settling them.


I think there's a way you keep Chris in even if he is hobbled, albeit with risk but it's possible. Use him as a spot up shooter and run plays through him basically stationary at the top of the key. Defense becomes an issue, but if you run him out there for 20 you could just tell Ariza/PJ to fight over screens and maybe hide Chris on Looney.

Not saying that's preferable, but even if he's at 50% there can still be a role for him. If I was Houston i'd at least dress him on the off chance there are 1-2 late game plays where you need him.
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Post#177 » by nbhadja » Mon May 28, 2018 7:14 pm

It's a one game series now, so anything can happen...it's basically a NCAA tournament game now and we see how whacky those games can be. Anything can happen. Eric Gordon could explode for 10 three pointers and Durant/Curry could combine for 10 of 30 shooting.

Plus Houston is at home and put up an inspiring fight last game in a tough road game that no one expected for them to even compete in. Houston may get all of the calls at home as well.
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Post#178 » by nbhadja » Mon May 28, 2018 7:15 pm

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ILOVEIT wrote:ugh....killing me...I just have no idea how the Warriors and Rockets are going to come out this game 7....Both tight and tentative? Rockets explode with threes like game 6? If I had to guess it would be the Warriors controlling most of the game but faultering in the end and the outcome decided by some crazy scrum at the end....


I tend to agree. This game 7 wont be pretty at all. Both teams are predictably exhausted, bruised and battered. A veritable war of attrition. The only thing one can add is a couple of overtime sessions. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Cavs beat either team in the Finals, as the Dubs and Rockets are killing each other off.


Eh I don't think the Cavs have a chance of winning more than a game against either Rockets or Warriors. LeBron has played more games already and he's all they have


Cleveland has a shot against Houston, especially with a gimpy CP3. Harden cannot be trusted in the playoffs, let alone finals. His game simply doesn't translate well into the playoffs.
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Post#179 » by xfactor » Mon May 28, 2018 7:18 pm

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I tend to agree. This game 7 wont be pretty at all. Both teams are predictably exhausted, bruised and battered. A veritable war of attrition. The only thing one can add is a couple of overtime sessions. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Cavs beat either team in the Finals, as the Dubs and Rockets are killing each other off.


Eh I don't think the Cavs have a chance of winning more than a game against either Rockets or Warriors. LeBron has played more games already and he's all they have


Cleveland has a shot against Houston, especially with a gimpy CP3. Harden cannot be trusted in the playoffs, let alone finals. His game simply doesn't translate well into the playoffs.


Also with Iggy (first line of defense against Lebron) down, LBJ will enjoy unprecedented freedom against the Dubs. I see him licking his chops in either scenario.
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Post#180 » by K For Three » Mon May 28, 2018 7:24 pm

I got Houston.

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