Kings Off-Season

[kalenclayton]

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I saw this little clip a while back and didn't share it because I didn't remember where I found it and maybe you guys saw it already.
The way he moves so quick and effortlessly and his smooth jumper are nice.

I know it’s one clip, but man did that get me excited. Thanks for sharing. I totally missed it.

[rpa]

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I saw this little clip a while back and didn't share it because I didn't remember where I found it and maybe you guys saw it already.
The way he moves so quick and effortlessly and his smooth jumper are nice.

Yeah. I watched a ton of his pre-injury highlights after the draft last year and if you can get past the monotony of so many uncontested dunks he's got some ridiculous moves.

The one that always stood out to me was this one:

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(skip to 2:50). A guy as big as he is shouldn't be able to cut that quickly and handle the ball as smoothly as he does there.

[SacKingZZZ]

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I saw this little clip a while back and didn't share it because I didn't remember where I found it and maybe you guys saw it already.
The way he moves so quick and effortlessly and his smooth jumper are nice.

Yeah. I watched a ton of his pre-injury highlights after the draft last year and if you can get past the monotony of so many uncontested dunks he's got some ridiculous moves.

The one that always stood out to me was this one:

Watch on YouTube

(skip to 2:50). A guy as big as he is shouldn't be able to cut that quickly and handle the ball as smoothly as he does there.

His handles were the thing that set him apart in high school and at Duke he never got a chance to show them. I just hope they don't turn him into a one trick pony and instead give him a shot to face up and do some stuff out there. If the Kings drafted Bagley, he and Giles could be a nightmare for teams with their offensive versatility.

[rpa]

His handles were the thing that set him apart in high school and at Duke he never got a chance to show them. I just hope they don't turn him into a one trick pony and instead give him a shot to face up and do some stuff out there. If the Kings drafted Bagley, he and Giles could be a nightmare for teams with their offensive versatility.

Yeah, one interesting thing about Giles--or at least how the Kings are talking about him--is that they've spent a lot of time talking about how great his passing is. That's interesting in that it almost feels like Vlade's trying to build a ball movement-heavy team similar to the early 2000's Kings (not player for player obviously). Makes me think that it's Doncic or bust.

[Lost in LA]

Yes that would still require a coach that would use such a system, which Jorger does not seem to be

[LightTheBeam]

I've been on the fire joerger train all year. Honestly I think hes Incapable of change. He believes it to the death and that's going to hamper our youth.

This is also why I've continued to defend WCS as a casualty of Joerger rather than a bad player.

[blind prophet]

Am I the only one that like the idea of the Kings going after Tyreke Evans in the summer?

I think he is a great piece off the bench with the second unit, imo. He’s a lot better option than a guy like Temple or Jackson.

Clutter at the wing makes it tough to swallow, so it makes zero sense on a one year deal. Would have to be a multi year deal and that makes me nervous about his health.

Unless you want to run him at point off the bench with Bogi at the same time or something like that.

I don't think he signs anywhere without at least a 2 year full guarantee either.

[sacking123]

I’ve been thinking about Joerger over the last couple of days and I’ve been loud in thinking that he won’t change.
Having said that I remember him saying at the end of the year or near it, and someone correct me if I’m wrong, that next season he will be taking the training wheels off. Is it just wishful thinking on my behalf that it could mean he is going to let the young guys play a more free flowing game?
Please, please just also get the best PnR coach onto the staff and let him work his magic.


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[SacKingZZZ]

I’ve been thinking about Joerger over the last couple of days and I’ve been loud in thinking that he won’t change.
Having said that I remember him saying at the end of the year or near it, and someone correct me if I’m wrong, that next season he will be taking the training wheels off. Is it just wishful thinking on my behalf that it could mean he is going to let the young guys play a more free flowing game?
Please, please just also get the best PnR coach onto the staff and let him work his magic.


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I was initially excited about the training wheels comment, but his use of it leaves me concerned about context. In the end it sounded to me like it might be simply more groundwork and reasoning as to why he can arbitrarily play who he wants, when he wants even though failure abounds. Basically it sounded like more coach verbiage for him setting the bar, defining the bar, and if they don't meet their "expectations" then they won't get coddled. I'm cool with that if legitimate and fair, but that article the other day on Sactown Royalty did paint a clear and vibrant picture of his own hypocrisy on those exact terms. The double standard last year was obvious and for the sake of the franchise it can't continue if winning isn't the result. I hope that's not the case but we have to see because as it is this team is going to look much the same and it's not out of the question that if the young guys aren't pulling wheelies right from the get Iman, GT, Kosta, and Zbo are right there to take the helm.

[OhioKingsFan]

Vlade can remove a lot of the rotation concerns for next season by simply waiving the final year of ZBo's deal. Stretching his contract would give the Kings over $26M in cap space after the #2 pick's salary is included. Use that max space to go after Aaron Gordon or Julius Randle! We don't have to worry about the rotation, ZBo gets his money, everybody wins!

[BoogieTime]

Vlade can remove a lot of the rotation concerns for next season by simply waiving the final year of ZBo's deal. Stretching his contract would give the Kings over $26M in cap space after the #2 pick's salary is included. Use that max space to go after Aaron Gordon or Julius Randle! We don't have to worry about the rotation, ZBo gets his money, everybody wins!

It was a bonehead move to give him the second year in the first place. It would look bad for that reason and his vet mentor ship. I’d expect them to look elsewhere in acquiring more cap

[BoogieTime]

The state tax issue has to be addressed by the league once and for all. Not fair to those in certain states. We already have to battle reputation and not being a big market

[sacking123]

The state tax issue has to be addressed by the league once and for all. Not fair to those in certain states. We already have to battle reputation and not being a big market

Yeah I agree with this. Part of the NBA’s responsibility is to create an even playing field or as close to it. This is an area they can control.


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[City of Trees]

There is a story out there BC was lurking on RealGM as well as other sites. Makes me wonder which Kings officials are visiting the RealGM Kings board.

If you are reading this I have one thing to say... Tell Joerger its time to play 2018 ball. Speed it up.

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[madskillz8]

There is a story out there BC was lurking on RealGM as well as other sites. Makes me wonder which Kings officials are visiting the RealGM Kings board.

If you are reading this I have one thing to say... Tell Joerger its time to play 2018 ball. Speed it up.

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Lol, I've just login to write about that and saw your post .

I have been following 76ers board for a while and there were actually a couple of irrational Colangelo defenders and one of them is a mod . They even forbid to criticize the Boston trade on Markelle Fultz topic where you can praise and support the same trade without getting a warning. Same for Boston, Lakers and Toronto boards, but seems like there are just too many young and irrational fans that can support any GM/coach/player with same ambition.

Thinking about 15-20 posters that writes on Kings board, I'm pretty sure Vlade is not writing here . But he can still be reading: we want less Zbo isos and more transition plays.

[SacKingZZZ]

There is a story out there BC was lurking on RealGM as well as other sites. Makes me wonder which Kings officials are visiting the RealGM Kings board.

If you are reading this I have one thing to say... Tell Joerger its time to play 2018 ball. Speed it up.

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I don't think he likes being told what to do, let alone by a bunch of trolls like us.

Boards like this are a place to vent first and foremost, I feel sorry for any GM or person involved with the decision makings of a pro team going to a board like this.

[City of Trees]

There is a story out there BC was lurking on RealGM as well as other sites. Makes me wonder which Kings officials are visiting the RealGM Kings board.

If you are reading this I have one thing to say... Tell Joerger its time to play 2018 ball. Speed it up.

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I don't think he likes being told what to do, let alone by a bunch of trolls like us.

Boards like this are a place to vent first and foremost, I feel sorry for any GM or person involved with the decision makings of a pro team going to a board like this.

So SacKingZZZ is now a possibility

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[lebron stopper]

Vlade can remove a lot of the rotation concerns for next season by simply waiving the final year of ZBo's deal. Stretching his contract would give the Kings over $26M in cap space after the #2 pick's salary is included. Use that max space to go after Aaron Gordon or Julius Randle! We don't have to worry about the rotation, ZBo gets his money, everybody wins!

It was a bonehead move to give him the second year in the first place. It would look bad for that reason and his vet mentor ship. I’d expect them to look elsewhere in acquiring more cap

Watching Zach Randolph eat up the ball on so many possessions and pull off some ugly/janky post up move that usually missed was a total eyesore. He's an awful fit for the Kings, he doesn't deserve the many minutes he gets. Maybe instead of waiving and stretching Randolph's contract, try and pull a trade swap with Indiana to take Al Jefferson's mostly unguaranteed money ($4 million guaranteed) in exchange for Randolph and waive that instead. That would free up about $7.7 million in cap space for 2018-19 without having to stretch Randolph's final contract year.

[kalenclayton]

Vlade can remove a lot of the rotation concerns for next season by simply waiving the final year of ZBo's deal. Stretching his contract would give the Kings over $26M in cap space after the #2 pick's salary is included. Use that max space to go after Aaron Gordon or Julius Randle! We don't have to worry about the rotation, ZBo gets his money, everybody wins!

It was a bonehead move to give him the second year in the first place. It would look bad for that reason and his vet mentor ship. I’d expect them to look elsewhere in acquiring more cap

Watching Zach Randolph eat up the ball on so many possessions and pull off some ugly/janky post up move that usually missed was a total eyesore. He's an awful fit for the Kings, he doesn't deserve the many minutes he gets. Maybe instead of waiving and stretching Randolph's contract, try and pull a trade swap with Indiana to take Al Jefferson's mostly unguaranteed money ($4 million guaranteed) in exchange for Randolph and waive that instead. That would free up about $7.7 million in cap space for 2018-19 without having to stretch Randolph's final contract year.

Would they do that though? Randolph can still play pretty well when motivated. He might be motivated by the Pacers’ winning ways. Do they want him?

[kingjawn100]

I think ZBo gets a pretty bad wrap by kings fans. Sure he took a lot of shots and didn't play great defense but most of the games we won early on were because of him. People seem to think he was dogging it on defense or something but at his size and age he simply isn't athletic enough to guard quik players. This was covered up by Gasol in the past but it was glaring in Sac. But it wasn't an effort thing all.

Unlike Hill he never complained about his time here and was really professional the entire season. Hopefully the younger guys learned something from his approach. You can be mad all you want about our front office and signing Zbo but i don't see how you can rip him. The kings should have known what they were getting. If the organization had acquired more talent we wouldn't have had to ask a 36 year old to be the focal point of our offense.