Cardinals @ Brewers Series Thread

[Bernman]

I edited my post but my comparison was with Albers in the "avoiding a bat" idea.

I'm not someone that talks about "trusting as a closer" type of cliche, either, though Knebel qualifies as a good reliever and therefore I'm fine using him in a lot of 3 run lead in the 9th inning type of things.

Also, take a look at what I added to my post for with Matt Albers. You wanna crucify Knebel for bad stats 2 years ago, get a load of Albers' 2016.

I am guessing that going away from Hader may have had to do with pitch count. Hader has gone above 35 a few times this year but not much.

It's a false equivalency with Albers. The guy has had a better ERA in 6 of his last 7 seasons than Knebel has had in all but his best. The one bad year was an anomaly. Clearly not a 1 year wonder as a reliable late inning guy for a good major league team.

If Pina would have allowed that pitch in the dirt to get by him fans wouldn't be looking kindly upon that Knebel appearance either. It would have been more on Knebel than Pina because that was a pretty good pick.

Anyway, I just would have left Hader in. That was the percentage play, and convenient.

[Kerb Hohl]

I edited my post but my comparison was with Albers in the "avoiding a bat" idea.

I'm not someone that talks about "trusting as a closer" type of cliche, either, though Knebel qualifies as a good reliever and therefore I'm fine using him in a lot of 3 run lead in the 9th inning type of things.

Also, take a look at what I added to my post for with Matt Albers. You wanna crucify Knebel for bad stats 2 years ago, get a load of Albers' 2016.

I am guessing that going away from Hader may have had to do with pitch count. Hader has gone above 35 a few times this year but not much.

It's a false equivalency with Albers. The guy has had a better ERA in 6 of his last 7 seasons than Knebel has had in all but his best. Clearly not a 1 year wonder as a reliable late inning guy for a good major league team. Anyway, I just would have left Hader in. That was the percentage play, and convenient.

I would implore you to use something other than ERA for relievers of this nature. You're also counting a season where Albers barely pitched. That said, yeah, sure, Albers is fine. I'm not even disputing that.

I'm with you that Knebel is very volatile and could have some high BB or high HR seasons, but you're using way too small of samples in his career and this particular season. He's had 2 "bad" years, one of which he threw 8 innings and the other he threw 32 innings.

[Bernman]

I would implore you to use something other than ERA for relievers of this nature. You're also counting a season where Albers barely pitched. That said, yeah, sure, Albers is fine. I'm not even disputing that.

I'm with you that Knebel is very volatile and could have some high BB or high HR seasons, but you're using way too small of samples in his career and this particular season. He's had 2 "bad" years, one of which he threw 8 innings and the other he threw 32 innings.

I edited this in, and it's worth being addressed, that if Pina allows that spike in the dirt from Knebel to get by him, we are probably having a different conversation right now. The guy's stuff is still live, but he's really wild right now, and that's a situation where that could have cost us too.

[H2tObes]

I will always take a series win against the cards no matter the fashion

[bizarro]

I will always take a series win against the cards no matter the fashion

Totally agreed. As I said yesterday: **** the Cardinals

[Iheartfootball]

Looks likes Reyes did indeed injure himself.

"Significant lat strain"

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[bizarro]

Side note: Guerra was really good last night. He had all his pitches going. His velocity is up. We need him to keep at it. He's having a big bounceback season to date.