NBA Draft 2018 II

[No-Man]

Big day for Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA and Nevada.

well, it went well for all of them really, UK lost 2 but got PJ and Reid Travis so, can't complain

Nevada has 15 guys in theory, someone is going to leave, Amin and Jalen Harris haven't signed officially as transfers and Vincent Lee is a not highly regarded frosh, that might be asked to walk-on, that team is ridiculously stacked, 12-13 rotation guys

[doordoor123]

Chima Moneke is an interesting name to watch as a potential 2nd round player. Looks like a modern small-ball player.
Had a pro day today. Last year he scored 20 on Josh Jackson.
https://youtu.be/XSkpxjb92KY
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/chima-moneke-1.html

Going to comment on this because he's Australian. He's been super productive in college, smashes the boards, pretty athletic, etc. but I find it hard to get past the fact that he's listed at like 6'6, maybe 6'7 at best, with no range out to college 3 point line as a 22 year old. I'm not sure he's super long in the arms either.

True, but he hustles, gets offensive boards, can jump and run. I think he can earn a two-way and if he can learn to shoot he can be a solid role-player. Maybe 2nd round is too generous.

[EricAnderson]

What do people think of Anfernee Simmons?

I don’t know much about him but it sounds like while he’s raw theyres alot of upside there..

If that’s the case if I’m picking mid first I’d rather take a chance on him then some 4 year player who’s ceiling is rotational player at that point.

[doordoor123]

What do people think of Anfernee Simmons?

I don’t know much about him but it sounds like while he’s raw theyres alot of upside there..

If that’s the case if I’m picking mid first I’d rather take a chance on him then some 4 year player who’s ceiling is rotational player at that point.

Well I’ve been hearing he’s falling because he’s not ready, but there could be a ton of reasons. The question is if he will be able to develop on the defensive side of the ball and in terms of passing. Since it’s so hard to tell without a 5 on 5 setting against NBA-caliber players, he’s a big mystery. We know he can create a lot of space off the dribble, he has a floater game, great size and is really athletic. We don’t know how consistent his shot actually is. He’s a project, but the question is how long is he a project? If he can translate right away he’s a legit first round pick. If he needs a year or two to develop he’s a Late first to early second (example is Frank Jackson last year). If he needs even more than that he’s a middle to Late 2nd.

If a team can maximize his potential, he has tools on offense that can make him really good. I think there’s a good chance he goes high and being good friends with Donovan Mitchell is a big plus for his stock.

[EricAnderson]

What do people think of Anfernee Simmons?

I don’t know much about him but it sounds like while he’s raw theyres alot of upside there..

If that’s the case if I’m picking mid first I’d rather take a chance on him then some 4 year player who’s ceiling is rotational player at that point.

Well I’ve been hearing he’s falling because he’s not ready, but there could be a ton of reasons. The question is if he will be able to develop on the defensive side of the ball and in terms of passing. Since it’s so hard to tell without a 5 on 5 setting against NBA-caliber players, he’s a big mystery. We know he can create a lot of space off the dribble, he has a floater game, great size and is really athletic. We don’t know how consistent his shot actually is. He’s a project, but the question is how long is he a project? If he can translate right away he’s a legit first round pick. If he needs a year or two to develop he’s a Late first to early second (example is Frank Jackson last year). If he needs even more than that he’s a middle to Late 2nd.

If a team can maximize his potential, he has tools on offense that can make him really good. I think there’s a good chance he goes high and being good friends with Donovan Mitchell is a big plus for his stock.

It depends who’s picking too..If I’m the Hawks with my second first round pick and I’m rebuilding and I know I’m not gonna be good for awhile I’d take my chances letting him develop for a few years..

[nolang1]

What do people think of Anfernee Simmons?

I don’t know much about him but it sounds like while he’s raw theyres alot of upside there..

If that’s the case if I’m picking mid first I’d rather take a chance on him then some 4 year player who’s ceiling is rotational player at that point.

He was ranked #10 in a high school class that after all the all-star games this spring has had everyone complaining about what a weak draft it will be next year. Seems like he's doing well to capitalize on the youth/mystery angle while he can.

[doordoor123]

Troy Brown is really impressing in workouts. I don’t think there’s a chance he slides past 20. Could go at the end of the lottery, especially with an emphasis on wings and he has size/plays defense/is really young/great pace and space player.

Zhaire Smith’s handle might also be farther along than anticipated. Could also be a lottery pick.

Bruce Brown is also being widely considered as a first round pick.

[GimmeDat]

Troy Brown is really impressing in workouts. I don’t think there’s a chance he slides past 20. Could go at the end of the lottery, especially with an emphasis on wings and he has size/plays defense/is really young/great pace and space player.

Zhaire Smith’s handle might also be farther along than anticipated. Could also be a lottery pick.

Bruce Brown is also being widely considered as a first round pick.

I saw some footage of Brown in the workouts and he looked really long and a smooth athlete. I could see him becoming a realy solid player.

As for Brown, you're betting on his shooting, but it looks like he's shot it well in workouts, and of course he brings athleticism, defense, rebounding, etc. to the table.

[NotACat]

Is anyone else very concerned about Bagley's total lack of ability to make a layup or finish in the paint with his right hand? Everything I've seen is either a dunk or a finish with his left, even when it would much easier for Bagley to complete the layup with his right hand. Is no one else concerned about teams forcing him to his right when he's going against larger/quicker defenders?

[doordoor123]

Just something curious Ive noticed. Teams with picks right after the lottery are working out Aaron Holiday. Could he be this years Taurean Prince?

It’s possible he goes higher than anyone thinks. This point guard class is pretty weak in terms of two way players with explosiveness. He’s also able to finish with contact around the basket, which is pretty unique for a player coming out of college.

[GimmeDat]

Just something curious Ive noticed. Teams with picks right after the lottery are working out Aaron Holiday. Could he be this years Taurean Prince?

It’s possible he goes higher than anyone thinks. This point guard class is pretty weak in terms of two way players with explosiveness. He’s also able to finish with contact around the basket, which is pretty unique for a player coming out of college.

DX have him pretty high but I don't see the 1st round hype. I do like him and think he'll carve a niche in the league, but I don't see what makes him special enough for a 15-25 range selection. 25+, sure.

[doordoor123]

Just something curious Ive noticed. Teams with picks right after the lottery are working out Aaron Holiday. Could he be this years Taurean Prince?

It’s possible he goes higher than anyone thinks. This point guard class is pretty weak in terms of two way players with explosiveness. He’s also able to finish with contact around the basket, which is pretty unique for a player coming out of college.

DX have him pretty high but I don't see the 1st round hype. I do like him and think he'll carve a niche in the league, but I don't see what makes him special enough for a 15-25 range selection. 25+, sure.

I’m with you there, but I can also understand not being sold on a lot of other point guards in this draft and needing a back up point guard. A team like the Wizards and Nuggets need a back up point guard. They might go with someone that looks ready now over guys that are a few years away, especially since there are seniors that play well right away.

[nolang1]

Is anyone else very concerned about Bagley's total lack of ability to make a layup or finish in the paint with his right hand? Everything I've seen is either a dunk or a finish with his left, even when it would much easier for Bagley to complete the layup with his right hand. Is no one else concerned about teams forcing him to his right when he's going against larger/quicker defenders?

Have you ever seen a guy by the name of James Harden play? Not too many right-handed finishes from him. Anyhow Bagley shot 65% on two-pointers (and put back 19 of his own misses, so on at least 68% of the possessions he attempted a two-point field goal he made a two-point field goal) as a college freshman en route to scoring 21 ppg, so I suppose the lack of finishing with the right hand held him back from shooting 80% or whatever.

I don't think he's going to be the #1 pick, but if he scored 30 ppg and shot 80% he definitely would've been, so I suppose that's holding him back as a prospect relative to some hypothetical ambidextrous version of him that doesn't exist. Also I'm pretty sure opposing teams noticed he is left-hand dominant and tried to do something about it; that's kind of their job and it's not like it takes too many hours of watching film to realize that Bagley prefers to go to his left.

[No-Man]

LaGerald Vick pulled his name, so weird, kid has had sort of character concerns, was involved in all the Josh Jackson drama and apparently Self is fed up with him, so he is probably not returning to KU, mentioned G-League as an option, but if so, why not go through the draft process anyway?

[The-Power]

DX have him pretty high but I don't see the 1st round hype. I do like him and think he'll carve a niche in the league, but I don't see what makes him special enough for a 15-25 range selection. 25+, sure.

Players who I'm confident will find a niche in the NBA are players I'd definitely consider past the lottery. Not many players like this are drafted in the second round in most drafts. Of course this could be in the late 20's or early 30's but it's not like the difference between #19 and #28 is necessarily big in terms of expectation you can have for a prospect. In a normal draft, a player who I'm comfortable drafting in the late 20's can also be justified as a pick in the late teens and early 20's – the talent level is just too close combined with the uncertainty surrounding all prospects to differentiate like that.

[doordoor123]

Global camp is going on right now, there is a free stream.

Matur Maker looks interesting. I still don’t think he’s drafted, but he’ll get a contract.

The games in general looks like ****. Just running the entire time and turnovers.

[GimmeDat]

Issuf Sanon looked wild and took some bad looks but he's got talent.

[BlueSan]

He played with Olimpija (Slovenian champ) this year

[Dzon Dilindzer]

great game for Dzanan Musa tonight (21 pts), apparently scouts came to watch him, so Im sure they left happy and satisfied with what they saw... with this win, his team won the national title

[Dzon Dilindzer]

great game for Dzanan Musa tonight (21 pts), apparently scouts came to watch him, so Im sure they left happy and satisfied with what they saw... with this win, his team won the national title

Watch on YouTube