2018 Trade Ideas thread

[zuju]

The nuggets are willing to sacrifice their #14 pick in order to get rid of Faried.
Would be interesting to see if any team bites. If it failed to trade away Faried in the draft night and we fail to sign to max player, a trade of assest (future pick/2018 draftee )+ Faried would be interesting

Faried will come off the book next off season. We keep our flexibility and gain some assests

That being said, this scenario would be (assume PG sign with us)
Sign PG
Re-sign : Randle, Brook
Trade : Faried + future pick/other assets?
Draft: #25 & #47

P.S.: I always advocate for us to draft 4 players in this year's very deep draft class by trading / buying for 2 more draft picks in the late 1st round and early 2nd round. Keep our salary cap low (flexibility), and obtain some quality back up who may someday become valuable trade chips / solid rotational players.

[larry14r]

Do you guys think the Cavs would trade the 8th pick, and take on Luol deng's contract, for Lonzo ball.(in a sign-and-trade involving LeBron James)?

This will essentially make room for Paul George, LeBron James, and either cousins, capella, or Randal.

NO. Two words Lavar Ball. Also they are going to keep that pick and we have to give them ingram

[IcyVeins]

I don't see the lakers goin halfway in.

It's either all in or bust. So, if lebron comes, than means someone else is coming and a few young guns will probably be traded. If the big names dont come, the lakers might not give crazy deals and just resign Randle and hope the youngcore can grow and surpass the other youngcores of the nba.

(Problem is, the Kings and the Suns will definitely be better than last season)

[larry14r]

I don't see the lakers goin halfway in.

It's either all in or bust. So, if lebron comes, than means someone else is coming and a few young guns will probably be traded. If the big names dont come, the lakers might not give crazy deals and just resign Randle and hope the youngcore can grow and surpass the other youngcores of the nba.

(Problem is, the Kings and the Suns will definitely be better than last season)

And The Warriors will still rule the Pacific. So we can finish from 2nd to last in that division.

[TheHartBreakKid]

I don't see the lakers goin halfway in.

It's either all in or bust. So, if lebron comes, than means someone else is coming and a few young guns will probably be traded. If the big names dont come, the lakers might not give crazy deals and just resign Randle and hope the youngcore can grow and surpass the other youngcores of the nba.

(Problem is, the Kings and the Suns will definitely be better than last season)

If Lebron comes we are definitely going all in.....but are we going all in because Lebron is coming, or are we only getting Lebron because we are going all in. If we get Lebron we would be stupid to not go all in, and we also aren't getting Lebron unless we plan on going all in.



I agree though...if the big names don't come, we should resign Randle at all costs, and look for any ways of getting competitve players on one year contracts, whether that's overpaying Lopez/KCP (and I guess IT) or making salary dump trades, or signing someone else to a one year contract.


I know many won't agree with this IF we strike out again, especially considering the FO's confidence this time around, but our best bet ABSOLUTELY is to play the free agency game again next year. Striking out will make many of the FO's move look really dumb.....wrong moves that they made. but two wrongs don't make a right, and going after lesser free agents for multiple year contracts will lead to us being stuck in mediocrity at a likely case, and lead to us having a Deng/Moz type headache at even a worse case.


If we have the same time as last year, I guarantee that our record will improve. An improved team is a more attractive destination for a free agent, period. Even if we strike out AGAIN this year despite all of the FO's confidence, we will be a more attractive Free Agency destination next year than we are this year, and we have to give it one more try. Of course, letting Randle go due to this potential free agency hope would be ridiculous, and last year would be our last chance to do it due to Ingram being up for an extension, but I still think that's the right way to go.

[loveshaq786]

Do you guys think the Cavs would trade the 8th pick, and take on Luol deng's contract, for Lonzo ball.(in a sign-and-trade involving LeBron James)?

This will essentially make room for Paul George, LeBron James, and either cousins, capella, or Randal.

NO. Two words Lavar Ball. Also they are going to keep that pick and we have to give them ingram

What does lavar ball have to do with anything?....they are losing LeBron for nothing. Isn't Lonzo and Deng great value for them for the eighth pick?

[Dloading99]

Couple of things.

Lonzo Ball wouldn't get a number 15 pick in this years draft. his value is so low and he showed this year that he can't shoot. no GM is going to trade a 1st round pick especially 8 for a point guard that can't shoot in this years draft.

That could be Trae Young or Micheal Porter Jr. I suggested the number two pick for Lonzo cause Sac would just want to get a name there.


As for Lebron. After the Wiggins debacle Lebron is smarter. he's not going to just come and say trade all the Young guys. so yall could stop trippin about that. Lebron isn't going to come here and say trade everybody.


The thing that is most attractive to Lebron now is Young Lenghthy Athletic teams. that is the Lakers. that's Boston. that's why he likes the Lakers.

You don't have to Grind you have Brandon Ingram Kyle Kuzma Lonzo Ball to some way I guess if he can score. Thomas Bryant. and Paul George. any team with Lebron will be great. those players will be a lot better. so you don't need to talk about trading all your young players for superstars. the NBA landscape doesn't work like that anymore. it's the Warriors. He's in the finals with Jordan Clarkson Larry Nance Jr. Smith George Hill enough said. Lebron can take any team to the finals.

Who are you going to trade these young guys for that Lebron likes. James Harden Paul George is already signing. Popovich would trade every spur player to the Mavs before he would ever trade a player to the Lakers. So there aren't players out there.

I mean I gotta be real with yall. only semi star who is available is Blake Griffin. a star who Detroit is desperately trying to get out of so they would just want to dump that contract so I can see them asking for Ingram Lakers going NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but Maybe Lonzo Ball and a pick gets it done or Deng or something like that. Bring in in Lebron and your done and Paul George and make it work somehow.

and Go Ingram George Lebron Blake and Thomas Bryant. or Isiah on a 1 year deal. but those are the only deals you are going to get. nobody wants to give the Lakers a star and Lebron is a horrible GM you don't want him anywhere your team making trades.


This Lebron thing is more of a Kobe thing. Lakers are going to give him everything he wants retirement world tour. when players get where Lebron is you just want to be with an organization that is going to take care of you. do right by you. give you the demands you want in contracts and all the money. the Lakers will do that. with Kobe they showed any start that wants to come here we will go over board even when you are not the star and Lebron will still be a star so it's a win win. he's like Tom Brady. he wants to get what he's worth and the Lakers will do that while still competing. the Kobe deal was all about Lebron showing him we'll give you the same deal we gave Kobe. Cleveland can't take on any more big contracts with all the players they have on their team. the Lakers can take on a big contract.

[larry14r]

Do you guys think the Cavs would trade the 8th pick, and take on Luol deng's contract, for Lonzo ball.(in a sign-and-trade involving LeBron James)?

This will essentially make room for Paul George, LeBron James, and either cousins, capella, or Randal.

NO. Two words Lavar Ball. Also they are going to keep that pick and we have to give them ingram

What does lavar ball have to do with anything?....they are losing LeBron for nothing. Isn't Lonzo and Deng great value for them for the eighth pick?

He's the reason why no one wants Lonzo expect the Lakers. Also the Cavs won't help the Lakers because Glibert hates us. Also they are not trading that pick because it's their insurance policy in case LeBron leaves. Also if the Cavs wanted any of our young players it will start with Bradon Ingram.

[Spens1]

Couple of things.

Lonzo Ball wouldn't get a number 15 pick in this years draft. his value is so low and he showed this year that he can't shoot. no GM is going to trade a 1st round pick especially 8 for a point guard that can't shoot in this years draft.

That could be Trae Young or Micheal Porter Jr. I suggested the number two pick for Lonzo cause Sac would just want to get a name there.


As for Lebron. After the Wiggins debacle Lebron is smarter. he's not going to just come and say trade all the Young guys. so yall could stop trippin about that. Lebron isn't going to come here and say trade everybody.


The thing that is most attractive to Lebron now is Young Lenghthy Athletic teams. that is the Lakers. that's Boston. that's why he likes the Lakers.

You don't have to Grind you have Brandon Ingram Kyle Kuzma Lonzo Ball to some way I guess if he can score. Thomas Bryant. and Paul George. any team with Lebron will be great. those players will be a lot better. so you don't need to talk about trading all your young players for superstars. the NBA landscape doesn't work like that anymore. it's the Warriors. He's in the finals with Jordan Clarkson Larry Nance Jr. Smith George Hill enough said. Lebron can take any team to the finals.

Who are you going to trade these young guys for that Lebron likes. James Harden Paul George is already signing. Popovich would trade every spur player to the Mavs before he would ever trade a player to the Lakers. So there aren't players out there.

I mean I gotta be real with yall. only semi star who is available is Blake Griffin. a star who Detroit is desperately trying to get out of so they would just want to dump that contract so I can see them asking for Ingram Lakers going NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but Maybe Lonzo Ball and a pick gets it done or Deng or something like that. Bring in in Lebron and your done and Paul George and make it work somehow.

and Go Ingram George Lebron Blake and Thomas Bryant. or Isiah on a 1 year deal. but those are the only deals you are going to get. nobody wants to give the Lakers a star and Lebron is a horrible GM you don't want him anywhere your team making trades.


This Lebron thing is more of a Kobe thing. Lakers are going to give him everything he wants retirement world tour. when players get where Lebron is you just want to be with an organization that is going to take care of you. do right by you. give you the demands you want in contracts and all the money. the Lakers will do that. with Kobe they showed any start that wants to come here we will go over board even when you are not the star and Lebron will still be a star so it's a win win. he's like Tom Brady. he wants to get what he's worth and the Lakers will do that while still competing. the Kobe deal was all about Lebron showing him we'll give you the same deal we gave Kobe. Cleveland can't take on any more big contracts with all the players they have on their team. the Lakers can take on a big contract.

not going to lie, unless it was Blake for Deng straight up, we should avoid taking on that deal like the plague.

[loveshaq786]

DeRozan is another name that comes to mind

[Dloading99]

Look Lebron is leaving Cleveland. he is not playing for Dan Gilbert anymore so the if He gone. Lebron be like BYE FELICIA. They can't stand each other.

as for Blake Griffin a player who a team would want to get out of that contract those are the kind of deals to look for Small Market teams that want to move star players.

To take Deng they'll want a young player like a Ball they'll ask for the Michigan guy Kuzma but I can see Magic saying we'll give you ball.

Lebron likes Blake he's a guy he would like to run with athletic can run the floor. assures him he will be competing for championships the four seasons he's here. Blake Paul George Lebron can win a championship. I'll sign a fill in for 1 year isiah. shoot I'd give Brandon Jennings a 1 year minimum deal.

But To think we'll get tier 1 guys like Anthony Davis in trades is laughable. You want Jimmy Butler he's a tier two tier three guy in my opinion. wants to get paid. I'm not trading Brandon Ingram for him.


But we gotta get out of the free agent chasing stars thing. then next season it will be Kyrie Maybe we can get him and Kawaii.


This free agent thing is about Lebron James and Paul George. more than Paul it's about LEBRON JAMES and has always been about Lebron. Jeanie has to get him. and Magic has to get him for Jeanie. Cause Jeanie Bought back Magic to get Lebron.

Very Simple Magic Shaq Kobe Lebron it's the Lakers. it's the Laker way.

[Spens1]

Look Lebron is leaving Cleveland. he is not playing for Dan Gilbert anymore so the if He gone. Lebron be like BYE FELICIA. They can't stand each other.

as for Blake Griffin a player who a team would want to get out of that contract those are the kind of deals to look for Small Market teams that want to move star players.

To take Deng they'll want a young player like a Ball they'll ask for the Michigan guy Kuzma but I can see Magic saying we'll give you ball.

Lebron likes Blake he's a guy he would like to with athletic can run the floor. assures him he will be competing for championships the four seasons he's here. Blake Paul George Lebron can win a championship. I'll sign a fill in for 1 year isiah. shoot I'd give Brandon Jennings a 1 year minimum deal.

But To think we'll get tier 1 guys like Anthony Davis in trades is laughable. You want Jimmy Butler he's a tier two tier three guy in my opinion. wants to get paid. I'm trading Brandon Ingram for him.


But we gotta get out of the free agent chasing stars thing. then next season it will be Kyrie Maybe we can get him and Kawaii.


This free agent thing is about Lebron James and Paul George. more than Paul it's about LEBRON JAMES and has always been about Lebron. Jeanie has to get him. and Magic has to get him for Jeanie. Cause Jeanie Bought back Magic to get Lebron.

Very Simple Magic Shaq Kobe Lebron it's the Lakers. it's the Laker way.

who cares what Lebron wants, he should come here with the existing talent, we shouldnt' get ourselves into cap hell like the cav's just to accomodate him. Blake's contract is honestly amongst the worst in the league and isn't positive in the slightest. At least Deng for Blake gives them something cap wise. Also if Butler is tier 2, Blake is like tier 4 or 5 the way he's playing.

We need to be smart, if Lebron and George come here, we need to keep the rest of this core together to make sure these two actually have young legs around them.

Also why would we deal Ingram for Butler, Butler is better now but Ingram we'll have for the next 10-15 years you'd hope all things going well.

If we do everything for Lebron we'll be in the same position as Cleveland and that is not a good position at all to be in.

[Dloading99]

Spens I agree with you. everything you said.

I don't want to Trade Brandon Ingram. I don't want to trade Brandon Ingram for Jimmy Butler. I don't want to trade Brandon Ingram for anybody. and you know I like him.

I have been adamant saying the plan should be and will be is signing Lebron and Paul George and adding him to our core of Brandon Ingram. Kyle Kuzma Lonzo Ball and Thomas Bryant. read my earlier posts. I said that's what was attractive to Lebron. a team like Boston. where there are players in place who are ready to be stars eventually. he wants a team like that.

it's not the same. Lebron get me a star he learned from Cleveland. he wants to go where he can be the guy leading the team. he enjoys being the guy. he enjoyed this season. he doesn't want someone saying well you had to get Anthony Davis to win.


Yall started brining out the trade scenarios what Lebron wants. and I just said realistic scenarios. a team like the Lakers with no number one draft picks to offer and dangle the next attractive thing is take on salary that a team doesn't want.

I looked at Blake still skilled has improved his shooting can score athletic. a name a name in this town. and a player Lebron admires. that's a trade that can be made because both parties can make the trade. Lakers have the Young players. and can move one and Detroit has the star player that they desperately want to move. he's still an All star. and Detroit knows they flucked up and now they are trying to move him. only way Blake Makes sense is if Lebron his here cause you know with Lebron he will play great. and if Lebron is here you are guaranteed to go to the finals with him and Paul George and like an Ingram. so if you are winning championships. it doesn't matter what you pay him.

[Dloading99]

Demar Derozen is scary because I can See Magic making a trade like that wanting to bring the L.A. guy back to L.A.

and Brandon Ingram is the most attractive player on the Lakers as far as trades. he's the only guy teams will ask for. if the Lakers get Lebron I can see Magic trying to trade for Demar Derozen and I can see him trading Ingram. Toronto would gladly trade Derozen. and he is on the list of a Star that a team is desperately trying to move because of the contract. he's a max guy who will get traded.

another guy and I don't care what anybody says but Sam Presti would gladly Trade Russell Westbrook for Brandon Ingram and Lonzo Ball.

[Spens1]

Spens I agree with you. everything you said.

I don't want to Trade Brandon Ingram. I don't want to trade Brandon Ingram for Jimmy Butler. I don't want to trade Brandon Ingram for anybody. and you know I like him.

I have been adamant saying the plan should be and will be is signing Lebron and Paul George and adding him to our core of Brandon Ingram. Kyle Kuzma Lonzo Ball and Thomas Bryant. read my earlier posts. I said that's what was attractive to Lebron. a team like Boston. where there are players in place who are ready to be stars eventually. he wants a team like that.

it's not the same. Lebron get me a star he learned from Cleveland. he wants to go where he can be the guy leading the team. he enjoys being the guy. he enjoyed this season. he doesn't want someone saying well you had to get Anthony Davis to win.


Yall started brining out the trade scenarios what Lebron wants. and I just said realistic scenarios. a team like the Lakers with no number one draft picks to offer and dangle the next attractive thing is take on salary that a team doesn't want.

I looked at Blake still skilled has improved his shooting can score athletic. a name a name in this town. and a player Lebron admires. that's a trade that can be made because both parties can make the trade. Lakers have the Young players. and can move one and Detroit has the star player that they desperately want to move. he's still an All star. and Detroit knows they flucked up and now they are trying to move him. only way Blake Makes sense is if Lebron his here cause you know with Lebron he will play great. and if Lebron is here you are guaranteed to go to the finals with him and Paul George and like an Ingram. so if you are winning championships. it doesn't matter what you pay him.

True but if we can bring in both, why not just keep the younger Julius Randle, who right now isn't a huge downgrade on Blake.

[Spens1]

Demar Derozen is scary because I can See Magic making a trade like that wanting to bring the L.A. guy back to L.A.

and Brandon Ingram is the most attractive player on the Lakers as far as trades. he's the only guy teams will ask for. if the Lakers get Lebron I can see Magic trying to trade for Demar Derozen and I can see him trading Ingram. Toronto would gladly trade Derozen. and he is on the list of a Star that a team is desperately trying to move because of the contract. he's a max guy who will get traded.

another guy and I don't care what anybody says but Sam Presti would gladly Trade Russell Westbrook for Brandon Ingram and Lonzo Ball.

Well of course Presti would, that's their rebuilding done. I would make Presti look terrible and offer Lonzo by himself or Lonzo + Zubac, force OKC's hand, because without George, OKC are beyond stuffed.

[loveshaq786]

Trade Lonzo, (s&T) pope, and #25... for lebron and #5. Cleveland gets great value for #5 pick with Lonzo, (s&T) pope, and #25. Lebron is a non factor in that deal, since they are losing him regardless.

Derozen's contract is so bad, they would be happy to get out of that for deng alone... Deng and Randle, gets it done? OKC would consider taking derozen for for PG. if PG walks for nothing, their situation becomes horrible. Derozan and Zubac for pg13.

Sign Cousins for 4years/81 mil (18/19.5/21/22.5) with championship bonus and staying healthy bonuses. Rondo loves cousins... he followed him to NO from SAC. Maybe he would consider being on this star studded squad for full MLE. If that doesnt pan out... sign Capela for the same deal.

Sign Frye for VEts min. Maybe Rose/wade? Which other solid Vetereans would consider taking on a small contract to play on this squad?

rondo/pg/kuz/lebron/cousins
tyler/hart/ingram/frye/MObamba/bryant/frye

[larry14r]

DeRozan is another name that comes to mind

Hell no what's wrong with you?

[larry14r]

Trade Lonzo, (s&T) pope, and #25... for lebron and #5. Cleveland gets great value for #5 pick with Lonzo, (s&T) pope, and #25. Lebron is a non factor in that deal, since they are losing him regardless.

Derozen's contract is so bad, they would be happy to get out of that for deng alone... Deng and Randle, gets it done? OKC would consider taking derozen for for PG. if PG walks for nothing, their situation becomes horrible. Derozan and Zubac for pg13.

Sign Cousins for 4years/81 mil (18/19.5/21/22.5) with championship bonus and staying healthy bonuses. Rondo loves cousins... he followed him to NO from SAC. Maybe he would consider being on this star studded squad for full MLE. If that doesnt pan out... sign Capela for the same deal.

Sign Frye for VEts min. Maybe Rose/wade? Which other solid Vetereans would consider taking on a small contract to play on this squad?

rondo/pg/kuz/lebron/cousins
tyler/hart/ingram/frye/MObamba/bryant/frye

Dude give up already, and by the way we still aren't beating GS next anyways. Not even with your crappy lineup.

[TyCobb]

Trade Lonzo, (s&T) pope, and #25... for lebron and #5. Cleveland gets great value for #5 pick with Lonzo, (s&T) pope, and #25. Lebron is a non factor in that deal, since they are losing him regardless.

Derozen's contract is so bad, they would be happy to get out of that for deng alone... Deng and Randle, gets it done? OKC would consider taking derozen for for PG. if PG walks for nothing, their situation becomes horrible. Derozan and Zubac for pg13.

Sign Cousins for 4years/81 mil (18/19.5/21/22.5) with championship bonus and staying healthy bonuses. Rondo loves cousins... he followed him to NO from SAC. Maybe he would consider being on this star studded squad for full MLE. If that doesnt pan out... sign Capela for the same deal.

Sign Frye for VEts min. Maybe Rose/wade? Which other solid Vetereans would consider taking on a small contract to play on this squad?

rondo/pg/kuz/lebron/cousins
tyler/hart/ingram/frye/MObamba/bryant/frye

Dude give up already, and by the way we still aren't beating GS next anyways. Not even with your crappy lineup.

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