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Post#981 » by Mirjalovic » Sun Jun 3, 2018 10:04 pm

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Kilroy wrote:Silver talking about modifying the cap to create more parity... https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/250044/Adam-Silver-Broaches-Possible-Changes-To-NBA-Cap-Structure-In-Response-To-Parity-Questions

This coming right before what shapes up to be a big off season for free agents for us, does not make me comfortable... I swear if they change it and it impacts our ability to compete with the best teams in the league... I'm out.

Silver and the "NBA" have become way too 'hands-on' when it comes to manipulating the market to create 'parity.'

They should just do away with teams, and turn every game into an exhibition game... Communism isn't very much fun.


I highly doubt they make changes that will take place immediately. It's unreasonable to expect teams to adapt to immediate fundamental changes in the salary cap. Plus, I think it's something that has to be negotiated with the NBPA.


I understand that, I was half joking about this season, but I think they have some flexibility about where they set the cap thresholds... In any case, I don't trust Silver... I feel like even though we've been a bottom feeding team for the last few seasons, he still has a hard-on for us... I can see, if we do manage to legally land PG and LeBron, him using us as an example of bad parity, even though GSW has had a veritable all-star team for the last hand-full of years...


And lebron choosing his own teammates since 7 years ago, but its always the Lakers

Sam Hinkie and Brian Colangelo swap also make me wonder is this WWE or a fair and square league ? The league seemed to have big power and love to intervene in a bad way. You never saw big soccer body intervene like that.
shawn_hemp wrote: a guy who is far worse than Robert Covington in Brandon Ingram, and a guy who is no better than TJ McConnell or Tony Wroten in D'Angelo Russell.

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Post#982 » by larry14r » Sun Jun 3, 2018 10:30 pm

TyCobb wrote:
larry14r wrote:
loveshaq786 wrote:Trade Lonzo, (s&T) pope, and #25... for lebron and #5. Cleveland gets great value for #5 pick with Lonzo, (s&T) pope, and #25. Lebron is a non factor in that deal, since they are losing him regardless.

Derozen's contract is so bad, they would be happy to get out of that for deng alone... Deng and Randle, gets it done? OKC would consider taking derozen for for PG. if PG walks for nothing, their situation becomes horrible. Derozan and Zubac for pg13.

Sign Cousins for 4years/81 mil (18/19.5/21/22.5) with championship bonus and staying healthy bonuses. Rondo loves cousins... he followed him to NO from SAC. Maybe he would consider being on this star studded squad for full MLE. If that doesnt pan out... sign Capela for the same deal.

Sign Frye for VEts min. Maybe Rose/wade? Which other solid Vetereans would consider taking on a small contract to play on this squad?

rondo/pg/kuz/lebron/cousins
tyler/hart/ingram/frye/MObamba/bryant/frye


Dude give up already, and by the way we still aren't beating GS next anyways. Not even with your crappy lineup.


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Post#983 » by Unbiased hater » Sun Jun 3, 2018 11:58 pm

Bryant isn't part of the core altough i agree with ding a ling that Lebron won't sign if Bryant isn't Laker next year.
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Post#984 » by Dloading99 » Mon Jun 4, 2018 12:17 am

The Lakers did Lebron a Solid. and they did Rich Paul a solid. signing there player. Nobody wanted to sign him. and then he was in Jail during the season and going to games. it was horrible for the team.


Jeanie has been on Lebron and has been talking with Rich Paul. Jeanie has been with Rich Paul and the reason the Lakers signed his player so they could exclusively deal with Rich Paul about Lebron.


I'll show you the Front Office The Reason David Griffin put out that statement. Are clear indications that Philly knows Lebron is going to the Lakers. this is their last pitch to Lebron. hey Lebron. we'll make your boy the GM. but Lebron doesn't care about that.

that was an obvious pitch to Lebron. that was an obvious recruiting pitch to Lebron. David Griffin talk about how great Philly is and they have the leg up because Rich Paul reps Ben Simmons so what? Rich Paul reps a lot of players in the NBA.

Lebron has said indicated he is coming to the Lakers. that's why all this stuff is out. Rich Paul is telling Lebron everything that the Lakers are doing. they are communicating through agents.


Lebron isn't going to have his kids go to School in Philly. Lebron doesn't Leave Cleveland for Philly. Lebron doesn't leave the EAST for Philly. Philly is a team that is not signing Lebron. Lebron likes to have the Lane he likes to have the Lane to operate. Joel Embiid is in the paint. Ben Simmons is a ball handler Ben Simmons needs the ball. Ben Simmons gets the offense going. you aren't going to have Ben Simmons catch and shoot. if he was Paul George it would be different. if he was Kevin Durant it would be different. guys who can come off screens catch and shoot with a facilitator like Lebron. so the basketball makes no sense. This is why Lebron likes playing with Stretch Fives. how did Lebron and Shaq in Cleveland work out. it's just when you have a guy in the Center that has the lane you can't operate and get around like Lebron does. he has to have that lane to drive in.


When Lebron meets with Magic Jeanie Buss Rob Pelinka Kobe Bryant and Luke he'll be a Laker so let's look at this Lebron meets with Magic Jeanie Buss Kobe Bryant Rob Pelinka and Luke Walton. then he meets with Bryan Collangelo or David Griffin Yeah right. you are signing with the Lakers. I'm signing with the Lakers. you are signing with L.A. Luke has the Golden State championship kobe the Nike guy. the biggest Laker since Shaq and Magic is Magic.

When Shaq came here. Shaq was an Orlando guy it was Leonard Amato who planted that L.A. seed. Meeting with Jerry West all throughout the season and telling Shaq come to L.A. he got Shaq to L.A. I see the same thing with Rich Paul. Jeanie wants Lebron.
so Leonard Amato got it done saw all the money with Shaq being in L.A. Rich Paul see's other opportunities for Lebron being in L.A. Dan Gilbert with his tweets. it just shows that Lebron is bouncin. and after this finals you'll see Sources Lebron to L.A. done deal. Lebron will agree to come to the Lakers right when free agency starts. Lebron signing with Lakers to win championship.


I know Buisness Then that Big Billboard is going to be on Figueroa that Nike billboard with Lebron with his back turned and the back of his jersey saying Los Angeles or L.A. or Showtime or Hollywood. This is great for Nike. Nike isn't going to have Lebron go to Ben Simmons and Ben simmons is irrelevant with Lebron on his team. now it's like when Kevin Durant went to Golden State that was great for them. because Durant and Nike made Under Armour irrelevant for Stephen Curry. that was Stephen Curry's team and then Durant went there. if Lebron goes to L.A. Brandon Ingram is there with Addidas. and Adidas is huge in Basketball right now. that would be perfect for Nike to have Lebron go to L.A. and have that be a Nike team. with Nike. Lebron is a partner with Nike. and Kobe is his team player on Nike.



Blake Griffin is an available contract star that is out there. but this is about Lebron James and Paul George coming to the Lakers. it's a done deal. and all these Philly stuff. it's laughable You'll hear Lebron at the press conference talking about how he is going to like playing with Lonzo and Brandon Ingram and Kuzma and Bryant. and Lebron will say how Lonzo Kuzma Brandon Ingram and Thomas Bryant are great players. and how he will make them better. and this isn't about Lebron trading for a bunch of superstars. he wants to be in L.A. as the guy. it's great for the NBA. The NBA needs another story and this is a big story. it takes over the whole off season in sports.


Lebron is like Kobe he wants to be celebrated. he's the guy in practice who expects others to play great. it's going to be great. Lebron wants to wear the Purple and Gold. and having Lebron as a Laker is just great for the NBA.

Who would you sign with Philly or the Lakers. it's easy the Lakers.
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Post#985 » by Vae Victus » Mon Jun 4, 2018 5:52 am

Philly would be an infinitely better fit for LBJ if they're willing to trade Simmons for a better fitting young elite SG piece. Cuz i just dont see a LBJ/Simmons tandem working out unless they spend another season or two tweaking it around and Simmons develops an outside shot.

Now that CLE is pretty much on its way to a 4-0/4-1 beatdown by GSW, LBJ is prolly already mentally checked out.

HOU and PHI is our primary opponents in nabbing LBJ's services.

HOU is the best team and CAN get LBJ if CLE is willing to play ball in an opt in and trade scenario. However their path to gaining LBJ is the most difficult as they also gotta find a 3rd AND 4th team to eat unwanted salary in Gordon/PJ/Nene/etc. Too many moving parts that can **** things up. Not to mention who knows if LBJ is cool with risking his future, he might want to sign a mega max 4 year deal now and not do 1+1. It's honestly quite clear that CP3 may have just cost himself a massive payday by doing his opt in. He's another year older and more banged up and clearly proven his body cant handle the rigors of a deep playoff push til the end. Yet another gamble, will CP3 be healthy?

PHI is the next best team. All they need to do is dump Bayless for pure cap, not hard, just use their own 1st #26 easy peasy. Decline another of their cheap players and theyre at 35.3+m free cap. Their issue is team fit. Embiid is awesome and will be the best big LBJ will have played with, but Simmons is gonna be a problem as he's basically playing a young LBJ game IE no outside shooting. RoCo and Saric are very nice young forwards who can shoot and Fultz still has a chance to be special. I truly hope Colangelo sticks around or that whole Twitter/Burner account debacle sours LBJ on that franchise. If i'm Philly, i'd explore what i can get for Simmons and be ready to pull the trigger if i can find a good young SG on a rookie deal to bring in that meshes well with LBJ + roster. Then pitch it to LBJ and pull it if he says yes. Otherwise i think adding LBJ to the roster as is, isn't something LBJ is eager to roll the dice with, a player like Simmons get heavily neutralized when teams can gameplan. Having that LAL 1st #10 is quite nice chip to play with.

LAL is in a nice spot. We can, without trades, free up the cap to go get LBJ/PG13. If we can pull a miracle trade of Deng + lots of stuff for pure cap we're in even BETTER shape to put ALOT of help around our 2 stars. PG13 himself is a damn good 2 way player who elevates his game in the POs and is willing to take a backseat when needed as shown by his play in OKC. Our kiddie brigade fills in quite nicely around LBJ. Kuzma is a stretch 4 who has some ISO ability in a pinch and shown he that he's not scared of the big moment. Ingram is a do it all slasher who's starting to flash a solid 3pt shot. Lonzo is just missing a solid 3 pt to be considered the PERFECT PG to pair with a LBJ led squad. If we keep Randle that's a huge extra cherry on top that gives us even MORE firepower to help Lebron with or at the very least help give the team another look to throw at a playoff opponent.

Sadly none of our stars are shown to be ALPHA DAWGs yet, but they're likely to not have any personality clashes when its clear that LBJ and PG13 are gonna be the 1/2 leaders, and most of their game meshes very well around them.

And we have Magic, cmon now, who can say no to a smiling Magic, with his glittering business empire in LA :D

If i were to post odds i'd lay it

10% CLE - Nostalgia is a bitch
25% HOU - If theyre willing to pay the assets to move the money around they can def get Lebron if he wants in
30% PHI higher if theyre willing to trade Simmons - they're in the East, cakewalk to finals is always attractive
35% LAL higher if we dump Deng for pure cap space - this team is READY made for 2 stars to lead the way

This is gonna be one helluva offseason
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Post#986 » by No name » Mon Jun 4, 2018 3:31 pm

Hey DLoading, what do you do for a living? You keep saying you know business so I'm naturally curious as to what that means.
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Post#987 » by Trips71 » Mon Jun 4, 2018 4:18 pm

loveshaq786 wrote:Trade Lonzo, (s&T) pope, and #25... for lebron and #5. Cleveland gets great value for #5 pick with Lonzo, (s&T) pope, and #25. Lebron is a non factor in that deal, since they are losing him regardless.

Derozen's contract is so bad, they would be happy to get out of that for deng alone... Deng and Randle, gets it done? OKC would consider taking derozen for for PG. if PG walks for nothing, their situation becomes horrible. Derozan and Zubac for pg13.

Sign Cousins for 4years/81 mil (18/19.5/21/22.5) with championship bonus and staying healthy bonuses. Rondo loves cousins... he followed him to NO from SAC. Maybe he would consider being on this star studded squad for full MLE. If that doesnt pan out... sign Capela for the same deal.

Sign Frye for VEts min. Maybe Rose/wade? Which other solid Vetereans would consider taking on a small contract to play on this squad?

rondo/pg/kuz/lebron/cousins
tyler/hart/ingram/frye/MObamba/bryant/frye

There is NO WAY the Cavs trade Lebron and the #8 pick for that. That pick is their fall back plan for if Lebron leaves. They would rather let him walk for nothing than give up that pick.
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Post#988 » by NBAWestFan » Mon Jun 4, 2018 5:00 pm

loveshaq786 wrote:Trade Lonzo, (s&T) pope, and #25... for lebron and #5. Cleveland gets great value for #5 pick with Lonzo, (s&T) pope, and #25. Lebron is a non factor in that deal, since they are losing him regardless.

Derozen's contract is so bad, they would be happy to get out of that for deng alone... Deng and Randle, gets it done? OKC would consider taking derozen for for PG. if PG walks for nothing, their situation becomes horrible. Derozan and Zubac for pg13.

Sign Cousins for 4years/81 mil (18/19.5/21/22.5) with championship bonus and staying healthy bonuses. Rondo loves cousins... he followed him to NO from SAC. Maybe he would consider being on this star studded squad for full MLE. If that doesnt pan out... sign Capela for the same deal.

Sign Frye for VEts min. Maybe Rose/wade? Which other solid Vetereans would consider taking on a small contract to play on this squad?

rondo/pg/kuz/lebron/cousins
tyler/hart/ingram/frye/MObamba/bryant/frye


Sounds like a good sqad.

I would also consider trading Ball to move up maybe even higher than that for Ball.
Ball if one of the top points and will be for years to come but his shot is weak but he players defense, rebounds and is perhaps going to be one of the best passers in the game in a short while.

If Lebron & PG are coming.
I would rather try to get a short term deal for Chris Paul after trading Ball but I would consider Ball, Kuzma and Ingram as my top 3 futer players. If Lopez comes for the right price, then I would take him

Sign a Shooter - Bellinelli, Reddick

CP3, Hart,
PG, Free Agent Shooter
Ingram, PG, Kuzuma
Lebron, Kuzma, Bamba
Lopez , Bamba

If you cannot get CP3 I don't think I want to trade Ball unless you really think Bamba or a top 5 pick is really going to be great
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Post#989 » by Trips71 » Mon Jun 4, 2018 8:03 pm

Dloading99 wrote:The Lakers did Lebron a Solid. and they did Rich Paul a solid. signing there player. Nobody wanted to sign him. and then he was in Jail during the season and going to games. it was horrible for the team.


Jeanie has been on Lebron and has been talking with Rich Paul. Jeanie has been with Rich Paul and the reason the Lakers signed his player so they could exclusively deal with Rich Paul about Lebron.


I'll show you the Front Office The Reason David Griffin put out that statement. Are clear indications that Philly knows Lebron is going to the Lakers. this is their last pitch to Lebron. hey Lebron. we'll make your boy the GM. but Lebron doesn't care about that.

that was an obvious pitch to Lebron. that was an obvious recruiting pitch to Lebron. David Griffin talk about how great Philly is and they have the leg up because Rich Paul reps Ben Simmons so what? Rich Paul reps a lot of players in the NBA.

Lebron has said indicated he is coming to the Lakers. that's why all this stuff is out. Rich Paul is telling Lebron everything that the Lakers are doing. they are communicating through agents.


Lebron isn't going to have his kids go to School in Philly. Lebron doesn't Leave Cleveland for Philly. Lebron doesn't leave the EAST for Philly. Philly is a team that is not signing Lebron. Lebron likes to have the Lane he likes to have the Lane to operate. Joel Embiid is in the paint. Ben Simmons is a ball handler Ben Simmons needs the ball. Ben Simmons gets the offense going. you aren't going to have Ben Simmons catch and shoot. if he was Paul George it would be different. if he was Kevin Durant it would be different. guys who can come off screens catch and shoot with a facilitator like Lebron. so the basketball makes no sense. This is why Lebron likes playing with Stretch Fives. how did Lebron and Shaq in Cleveland work out. it's just when you have a guy in the Center that has the lane you can't operate and get around like Lebron does. he has to have that lane to drive in.


When Lebron meets with Magic Jeanie Buss Rob Pelinka Kobe Bryant and Luke he'll be a Laker so let's look at this Lebron meets with Magic Jeanie Buss Kobe Bryant Rob Pelinka and Luke Walton. then he meets with Bryan Collangelo or David Griffin Yeah right. you are signing with the Lakers. I'm signing with the Lakers. you are signing with L.A. Luke has the Golden State championship kobe the Nike guy. the biggest Laker since Shaq and Magic is Magic.

When Shaq came here. Shaq was an Orlando guy it was Leonard Amato who planted that L.A. seed. Meeting with Jerry West all throughout the season and telling Shaq come to L.A. he got Shaq to L.A. I see the same thing with Rich Paul. Jeanie wants Lebron.
so Leonard Amato got it done saw all the money with Shaq being in L.A. Rich Paul see's other opportunities for Lebron being in L.A. Dan Gilbert with his tweets. it just shows that Lebron is bouncin. and after this finals you'll see Sources Lebron to L.A. done deal. Lebron will agree to come to the Lakers right when free agency starts. Lebron signing with Lakers to win championship.


I know Buisness Then that Big Billboard is going to be on Figueroa that Nike billboard with Lebron with his back turned and the back of his jersey saying Los Angeles or L.A. or Showtime or Hollywood. This is great for Nike. Nike isn't going to have Lebron go to Ben Simmons and Ben simmons is irrelevant with Lebron on his team. now it's like when Kevin Durant went to Golden State that was great for them. because Durant and Nike made Under Armour irrelevant for Stephen Curry. that was Stephen Curry's team and then Durant went there. if Lebron goes to L.A. Brandon Ingram is there with Addidas. and Adidas is huge in Basketball right now. that would be perfect for Nike to have Lebron go to L.A. and have that be a Nike team. with Nike. Lebron is a partner with Nike. and Kobe is his team player on Nike.



Blake Griffin is an available contract star that is out there. but this is about Lebron James and Paul George coming to the Lakers. it's a done deal. and all these Philly stuff. it's laughable You'll hear Lebron at the press conference talking about how he is going to like playing with Lonzo and Brandon Ingram and Kuzma and Bryant. and Lebron will say how Lonzo Kuzma Brandon Ingram and Thomas Bryant are great players. and how he will make them better. and this isn't about Lebron trading for a bunch of superstars. he wants to be in L.A. as the guy. it's great for the NBA. The NBA needs another story and this is a big story. it takes over the whole off season in sports.


Lebron is like Kobe he wants to be celebrated. he's the guy in practice who expects others to play great. it's going to be great. Lebron wants to wear the Purple and Gold. and having Lebron as a Laker is just great for the NBA.

Who would you sign with Philly or the Lakers. it's easy the Lakers.

I am curious to what you think a trade for Blake would look like. I am not a big fan of his or that contract, but I like his bloated 4 year deal better than Deng's 2 years left. What do you think it would take to make the trade?
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Post#990 » by Trips71 » Mon Jun 4, 2018 8:14 pm

Trips71 wrote:
Dloading99 wrote:The Lakers did Lebron a Solid. and they did Rich Paul a solid. signing there player. Nobody wanted to sign him. and then he was in Jail during the season and going to games. it was horrible for the team.


Jeanie has been on Lebron and has been talking with Rich Paul. Jeanie has been with Rich Paul and the reason the Lakers signed his player so they could exclusively deal with Rich Paul about Lebron.


I'll show you the Front Office The Reason David Griffin put out that statement. Are clear indications that Philly knows Lebron is going to the Lakers. this is their last pitch to Lebron. hey Lebron. we'll make your boy the GM. but Lebron doesn't care about that.

that was an obvious pitch to Lebron. that was an obvious recruiting pitch to Lebron. David Griffin talk about how great Philly is and they have the leg up because Rich Paul reps Ben Simmons so what? Rich Paul reps a lot of players in the NBA.

Lebron has said indicated he is coming to the Lakers. that's why all this stuff is out. Rich Paul is telling Lebron everything that the Lakers are doing. they are communicating through agents.


Lebron isn't going to have his kids go to School in Philly. Lebron doesn't Leave Cleveland for Philly. Lebron doesn't leave the EAST for Philly. Philly is a team that is not signing Lebron. Lebron likes to have the Lane he likes to have the Lane to operate. Joel Embiid is in the paint. Ben Simmons is a ball handler Ben Simmons needs the ball. Ben Simmons gets the offense going. you aren't going to have Ben Simmons catch and shoot. if he was Paul George it would be different. if he was Kevin Durant it would be different. guys who can come off screens catch and shoot with a facilitator like Lebron. so the basketball makes no sense. This is why Lebron likes playing with Stretch Fives. how did Lebron and Shaq in Cleveland work out. it's just when you have a guy in the Center that has the lane you can't operate and get around like Lebron does. he has to have that lane to drive in.


When Lebron meets with Magic Jeanie Buss Rob Pelinka Kobe Bryant and Luke he'll be a Laker so let's look at this Lebron meets with Magic Jeanie Buss Kobe Bryant Rob Pelinka and Luke Walton. then he meets with Bryan Collangelo or David Griffin Yeah right. you are signing with the Lakers. I'm signing with the Lakers. you are signing with L.A. Luke has the Golden State championship kobe the Nike guy. the biggest Laker since Shaq and Magic is Magic.

When Shaq came here. Shaq was an Orlando guy it was Leonard Amato who planted that L.A. seed. Meeting with Jerry West all throughout the season and telling Shaq come to L.A. he got Shaq to L.A. I see the same thing with Rich Paul. Jeanie wants Lebron.
so Leonard Amato got it done saw all the money with Shaq being in L.A. Rich Paul see's other opportunities for Lebron being in L.A. Dan Gilbert with his tweets. it just shows that Lebron is bouncin. and after this finals you'll see Sources Lebron to L.A. done deal. Lebron will agree to come to the Lakers right when free agency starts. Lebron signing with Lakers to win championship.


I know Buisness Then that Big Billboard is going to be on Figueroa that Nike billboard with Lebron with his back turned and the back of his jersey saying Los Angeles or L.A. or Showtime or Hollywood. This is great for Nike. Nike isn't going to have Lebron go to Ben Simmons and Ben simmons is irrelevant with Lebron on his team. now it's like when Kevin Durant went to Golden State that was great for them. because Durant and Nike made Under Armour irrelevant for Stephen Curry. that was Stephen Curry's team and then Durant went there. if Lebron goes to L.A. Brandon Ingram is there with Addidas. and Adidas is huge in Basketball right now. that would be perfect for Nike to have Lebron go to L.A. and have that be a Nike team. with Nike. Lebron is a partner with Nike. and Kobe is his team player on Nike.



Blake Griffin is an available contract star that is out there. but this is about Lebron James and Paul George coming to the Lakers. it's a done deal. and all these Philly stuff. it's laughable You'll hear Lebron at the press conference talking about how he is going to like playing with Lonzo and Brandon Ingram and Kuzma and Bryant. and Lebron will say how Lonzo Kuzma Brandon Ingram and Thomas Bryant are great players. and how he will make them better. and this isn't about Lebron trading for a bunch of superstars. he wants to be in L.A. as the guy. it's great for the NBA. The NBA needs another story and this is a big story. it takes over the whole off season in sports.


Lebron is like Kobe he wants to be celebrated. he's the guy in practice who expects others to play great. it's going to be great. Lebron wants to wear the Purple and Gold. and having Lebron as a Laker is just great for the NBA.

Who would you sign with Philly or the Lakers. it's easy the Lakers.

I am curious to what you think a trade for Blake would look like. I am not a big fan of his or that contract, but I like his bloated 4 year deal better than Deng's 2 years left. What do you think it would take to make the trade?

(OK, I just looked up his contract, and it is bad. Still curious about this idea, but that contract is massive)
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Post#991 » by larry14r » Mon Jun 4, 2018 8:17 pm

NBAWestFan wrote:
loveshaq786 wrote:Trade Lonzo, (s&T) pope, and #25... for lebron and #5. Cleveland gets great value for #5 pick with Lonzo, (s&T) pope, and #25. Lebron is a non factor in that deal, since they are losing him regardless.

Derozen's contract is so bad, they would be happy to get out of that for deng alone... Deng and Randle, gets it done? OKC would consider taking derozen for for PG. if PG walks for nothing, their situation becomes horrible. Derozan and Zubac for pg13.

Sign Cousins for 4years/81 mil (18/19.5/21/22.5) with championship bonus and staying healthy bonuses. Rondo loves cousins... he followed him to NO from SAC. Maybe he would consider being on this star studded squad for full MLE. If that doesnt pan out... sign Capela for the same deal.

Sign Frye for VEts min. Maybe Rose/wade? Which other solid Vetereans would consider taking on a small contract to play on this squad?

rondo/pg/kuz/lebron/cousins
tyler/hart/ingram/frye/MObamba/bryant/frye


Sounds like a good sqad.

I would also consider trading Ball to move up maybe even higher than that for Ball.
Ball if one of the top points and will be for years to come but his shot is weak but he players defense, rebounds and is perhaps going to be one of the best passers in the game in a short while.

If Lebron & PG are coming.
I would rather try to get a short term deal for Chris Paul after trading Ball but I would consider Ball, Kuzma and Ingram as my top 3 futer players. If Lopez comes for the right price, then I would take him

Sign a Shooter - Bellinelli, Reddick

CP3, Hart,
PG, Free Agent Shooter
Ingram, PG, Kuzuma
Lebron, Kuzma, Bamba
Lopez , Bamba

If you cannot get CP3 I don't think I want to trade Ball unless you really think Bamba or a top 5 pick is really going to be great


There is no way we CP3 Houston will re sign him. Also Lavar is right we are a bunch of pansies trading away a player for a non basketball reason.
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Re: The Offseason Of Redemption. Lakers Rumors, Trades, Signings 2018. 

Post#992 » by Dr Aki » Mon Jun 4, 2018 11:19 pm

CyberX, famed NBA insider who posts on clutchfans has surfaced in the past day.

Who is he? He predicted Clarkson to Cleveland 3 weeks before it happened, JJ to the Rox, CP3 to Rox among a lot of other things through the years.

Anyway... Onto the juicy stuff:

Still believes Lakers at top of the list for LeBron, later says he thinks it's Houston and LA at 35% chance each, Cleveland and Philly 15% each

Capella is intrigued about the Lakers, LA scene with their young core if they offer the max, wants to make his own name, Phoenix will offer max to Capela. LA however doesn't like to play the RFA game, we're not into that.

Boogie wants out of NOLA, wants Lakers badly, it's not mutual from the Lakers side due to the injury.

PG to Lakers is almost a lock

Colangelo issues is going to hurt Philly in free agency

Houston targeting Butler (if they can't get LeBron). Houston interested in Tyreke Evans if they had to replace EG.

Mavs are going to get rejected a lot this July

Read through the thread here - http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/2-0-cyberex-paging-cyberex.272647/page-6 - scroll past the 2016 posts, it heats up a lot
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Post#993 » by LAKESHOW » Tue Jun 5, 2018 1:14 am

If Phoenix doesn't offer capella, we should offer Capella. That forces Hou to raise their levels, taking them out of the free agent market. The rocks are at their limits. We eliminate a contender
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Post#994 » by BEazy » Tue Jun 5, 2018 1:26 am

Lol Lebron isn’t coming here people... Why would he want to face Golden State AND Houston 4 times each when he can face them 2 times each and never play them in the playoffs until the finals? I think LeBron going to Celtics or Philly.
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Post#995 » by RamonSessions7 » Tue Jun 5, 2018 1:43 am

Dr Aki wrote:CyberX, famed NBA insider who posts on clutchfans has surfaced in the past day.

Who is he? He predicted Clarkson to Cleveland 3 weeks before it happened, JJ to the Rox, CP3 to Rox among a lot of other things through the years.

Anyway... Onto the juicy stuff:

Still believes Lakers at top of the list for LeBron, later says he thinks it's Houston and LA at 35% chance each, Cleveland and Philly 15% each

Capella is intrigued about the Lakers, LA scene with their young core if they offer the max, wants to make his own name, Phoenix will offer max to Capela. LA however doesn't like to play the RFA game, we're not into that.

Boogie wants out of NOLA, wants Lakers badly, it's not mutual from the Lakers side due to the injury.

PG to Lakers is almost a lock

Colangelo issues is going to hurt Philly in free agency

Houston targeting Butler (if they can't get LeBron). Houston interested in Tyreke Evans if they had to replace EG.

Mavs are going to get rejected a lot this July

Read through the thread here - http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/2-0-cyberex-paging-cyberex.272647/page-6 - scroll past the 2016 posts, it heats up a lot

So does he always post a bunch of misc things that all have somewhat of a chance of happening by connecting basic dots/reading tea leaves, land 1 and use that 1 as his cred?
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Post#996 » by Dr Aki » Tue Jun 5, 2018 2:03 am

RamonSessions7 wrote:
Dr Aki wrote:CyberX, famed NBA insider who posts on clutchfans has surfaced in the past day.

Who is he? He predicted Clarkson to Cleveland 3 weeks before it happened, JJ to the Rox, CP3 to Rox among a lot of other things through the years.

Anyway... Onto the juicy stuff:

Still believes Lakers at top of the list for LeBron, later says he thinks it's Houston and LA at 35% chance each, Cleveland and Philly 15% each

Capella is intrigued about the Lakers, LA scene with their young core if they offer the max, wants to make his own name, Phoenix will offer max to Capela. LA however doesn't like to play the RFA game, we're not into that.

Boogie wants out of NOLA, wants Lakers badly, it's not mutual from the Lakers side due to the injury.

PG to Lakers is almost a lock

Colangelo issues is going to hurt Philly in free agency

Houston targeting Butler (if they can't get LeBron). Houston interested in Tyreke Evans if they had to replace EG.

Mavs are going to get rejected a lot this July

Read through the thread here - http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/2-0-cyberex-paging-cyberex.272647/page-6 - scroll past the 2016 posts, it heats up a lot

So does he always post a bunch of misc things that all have somewhat of a chance of happening by connecting basic dots/reading tea leaves, land 1 and use that 1 as his cred?


He's landed quite a few more than just 1
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Post#997 » by RamonSessions7 » Tue Jun 5, 2018 2:47 am

Dr Aki wrote:
RamonSessions7 wrote:
Dr Aki wrote:CyberX, famed NBA insider who posts on clutchfans has surfaced in the past day.

Who is he? He predicted Clarkson to Cleveland 3 weeks before it happened, JJ to the Rox, CP3 to Rox among a lot of other things through the years.

Anyway... Onto the juicy stuff:

Still believes Lakers at top of the list for LeBron, later says he thinks it's Houston and LA at 35% chance each, Cleveland and Philly 15% each

Capella is intrigued about the Lakers, LA scene with their young core if they offer the max, wants to make his own name, Phoenix will offer max to Capela. LA however doesn't like to play the RFA game, we're not into that.

Boogie wants out of NOLA, wants Lakers badly, it's not mutual from the Lakers side due to the injury.

PG to Lakers is almost a lock

Colangelo issues is going to hurt Philly in free agency

Houston targeting Butler (if they can't get LeBron). Houston interested in Tyreke Evans if they had to replace EG.

Mavs are going to get rejected a lot this July

Read through the thread here - http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/2-0-cyberex-paging-cyberex.272647/page-6 - scroll past the 2016 posts, it heats up a lot

So does he always post a bunch of misc things that all have somewhat of a chance of happening by connecting basic dots/reading tea leaves, land 1 and use that 1 as his cred?


He's landed quite a few more than just 1

I just mean judging by the recent info, it looks like he throws a blanket of somewhat-to-pretty likely rumors out.
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Post#998 » by tlifeset » Tue Jun 5, 2018 2:54 am

Dloading99 wrote:Couple of things.

Lonzo Ball wouldn't get a number 15 pick in this years draft. his value is so low and he showed this year that he can't shoot. no GM is going to trade a 1st round pick especially 8 for a point guard that can't shoot in this years draft.

That could be Trae Young or Micheal Porter Jr. I suggested the number two pick for Lonzo cause Sac would just want to get a name there.

As for Lebron. After the Wiggins debacle Lebron is smarter. he's not going to just come and say trade all the Young guys. so yall could stop trippin about that. Lebron isn't going to come here and say trade everybody.


The thing that is most attractive to Lebron now is Young Lenghthy Athletic teams. that is the Lakers. that's Boston. that's why he likes the Lakers.

You don't have to Grind you have Brandon Ingram Kyle Kuzma Lonzo Ball to some way I guess if he can score. Thomas Bryant. and Paul George. any team with Lebron will be great. those players will be a lot better. so you don't need to talk about trading all your young players for superstars. the NBA landscape doesn't work like that anymore. it's the Warriors. He's in the finals with Jordan Clarkson Larry Nance Jr. Smith George Hill enough said. Lebron can take any team to the finals.

Who are you going to trade these young guys for that Lebron likes. James Harden Paul George is already signing. Popovich would trade every spur player to the Mavs before he would ever trade a player to the Lakers. So there aren't players out there.

I mean I gotta be real with yall. only semi star who is available is Blake Griffin. a star who Detroit is desperately trying to get out of so they would just want to dump that contract so I can see them asking for Ingram Lakers going NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but Maybe Lonzo Ball and a pick gets it done or Deng or something like that. Bring in in Lebron and your done and Paul George and make it work somehow.

and Go Ingram George Lebron Blake and Thomas Bryant. or Isiah on a 1 year deal. but those are the only deals you are going to get. nobody wants to give the Lakers a star and Lebron is a horrible GM you don't want him anywhere your team making trades.


This Lebron thing is more of a Kobe thing. Lakers are going to give him everything he wants retirement world tour. when players get where Lebron is you just want to be with an organization that is going to take care of you. do right by you. give you the demands you want in contracts and all the money. the Lakers will do that. with Kobe they showed any start that wants to come here we will go over board even when you are not the star and Lebron will still be a star so it's a win win. he's like Tom Brady. he wants to get what he's worth and the Lakers will do that while still competing. the Kobe deal was all about Lebron showing him we'll give you the same deal we gave Kobe. Cleveland can't take on any more big contracts with all the players they have on their team. the Lakers can take on a big contract.





DLoading, you've been a fun read. Many times you've brought interesting insight that you've passed off as source info that I haven't heard from other places, i.e. Lebron moving to LA for geo-political reasons.

But when you say a statement that Lonzo Ball wouldn't fetch a #15 pick when my sources are telling me that PHX would give up the #1 pick for Lonzo... well, it makes me question how high your connections actually go.

For the record, I agree with your assessment of Lebron and PG13 coming to LA. I have a hard time believing that any of these guys will be able to say "no" to Magic in a room.

They will absolutely keep Lonzo and Kuzma. Those are Magic's guys. They like Ingram, but if they think for one second that they need a third proven star either because Lebron wants more reasons to sign OR they simply want to go all in on a championship next year, Ingram will be attached to Deng and HE GONE.

We need to accept this and stop whining about it. You sound like a bunch of Celts fans complaining about trading Al Jefferson for KG.
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Post#999 » by ROballer » Tue Jun 5, 2018 3:57 am

tlifeset wrote:
Dloading99 wrote:Couple of things.

Lonzo Ball wouldn't get a number 15 pick in this years draft. his value is so low and he showed this year that he can't shoot. no GM is going to trade a 1st round pick especially 8 for a point guard that can't shoot in this years draft.

That could be Trae Young or Micheal Porter Jr. I suggested the number two pick for Lonzo cause Sac would just want to get a name there.

As for Lebron. After the Wiggins debacle Lebron is smarter. he's not going to just come and say trade all the Young guys. so yall could stop trippin about that. Lebron isn't going to come here and say trade everybody.


The thing that is most attractive to Lebron now is Young Lenghthy Athletic teams. that is the Lakers. that's Boston. that's why he likes the Lakers.

You don't have to Grind you have Brandon Ingram Kyle Kuzma Lonzo Ball to some way I guess if he can score. Thomas Bryant. and Paul George. any team with Lebron will be great. those players will be a lot better. so you don't need to talk about trading all your young players for superstars. the NBA landscape doesn't work like that anymore. it's the Warriors. He's in the finals with Jordan Clarkson Larry Nance Jr. Smith George Hill enough said. Lebron can take any team to the finals.

Who are you going to trade these young guys for that Lebron likes. James Harden Paul George is already signing. Popovich would trade every spur player to the Mavs before he would ever trade a player to the Lakers. So there aren't players out there.

I mean I gotta be real with yall. only semi star who is available is Blake Griffin. a star who Detroit is desperately trying to get out of so they would just want to dump that contract so I can see them asking for Ingram Lakers going NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but Maybe Lonzo Ball and a pick gets it done or Deng or something like that. Bring in in Lebron and your done and Paul George and make it work somehow.

and Go Ingram George Lebron Blake and Thomas Bryant. or Isiah on a 1 year deal. but those are the only deals you are going to get. nobody wants to give the Lakers a star and Lebron is a horrible GM you don't want him anywhere your team making trades.


This Lebron thing is more of a Kobe thing. Lakers are going to give him everything he wants retirement world tour. when players get where Lebron is you just want to be with an organization that is going to take care of you. do right by you. give you the demands you want in contracts and all the money. the Lakers will do that. with Kobe they showed any start that wants to come here we will go over board even when you are not the star and Lebron will still be a star so it's a win win. he's like Tom Brady. he wants to get what he's worth and the Lakers will do that while still competing. the Kobe deal was all about Lebron showing him we'll give you the same deal we gave Kobe. Cleveland can't take on any more big contracts with all the players they have on their team. the Lakers can take on a big contract.





But when you say a statement that Lonzo Ball wouldn't fetch a #15 pick when my sources are telling me that PHX would give up the #1 pick for Lonzo...


My sources tell me that you're on some shady stuff.
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Post#1000 » by ak7 » Tue Jun 5, 2018 4:01 am

RamonSessions7 wrote:
Dr Aki wrote:
RamonSessions7 wrote:So does he always post a bunch of misc things that all have somewhat of a chance of happening by connecting basic dots/reading tea leaves, land 1 and use that 1 as his cred?


He's landed quite a few more than just 1

I just mean judging by the recent info, it looks like he throws a blanket of somewhat-to-pretty likely rumors out.


He knew about Dwight to Houston. Said there would be a meeting in colorado between him and his camp a few days before it was reported and actually happened. There were also other small tidbits about that process that he posted about that ended up being reported by ESPN in a “how Dwight left the Lakers” piece. That summer he also called some of the other big name acquisitions. He’s well connected, to what extent today I do not know.

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