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When will Booker hit 8,000 career points?

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7th season
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Post#1961 » by Biff » Fri May 4, 2018 9:00 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:I don't think they are particularly good looking...

Is that blasphemy?


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Post#1962 » by AtheJ415 » Sat May 5, 2018 2:05 am

I think it's hard to judge a lot of our players defensively given the lack of system and accountability over most of their careers here. It's also hard to improve individually over an offseason in that area. The whole team needs to be in Phoenix training and learning that system defensively until it is second nature. Book can do some individual things to improve his lateral agility and strength, which will help on D, and watch film, but ultimately this is going to be a team effort. I expect the D to struggle early on but get progressively better as the season goes on. Same for the offense, though I think we are closer on that end because guys both care about that more and can work on it more individually.
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Post#1963 » by matt131 » Thu May 10, 2018 7:15 pm

we need to make sure he doesn't. cant mess with his beautiful jump shot
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Post#1964 » by saintEscaton » Tue May 22, 2018 6:20 pm

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Post#1965 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sun May 27, 2018 3:50 am

Can Booker develop an ISO 3 game like Harden?

To me it would be more valuable than running plays for him to shoot mid-range at 40%.
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Post#1966 » by Qwigglez » Sun May 27, 2018 2:38 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Can Booker develop an ISO 3 game like Harden?

To me it would be more valuable than running plays for him to shoot mid-range at 40%.


He's getting there. Booker increased his 3P% slightly this season despite the % of his 3P FG's that are assisted being dropped. He's creating more shot opportunities for himself off the dribble, which is very valuable IMO. I imagine next season his 3P% ticks upward with Ayton on board.
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Post#1967 » by JMac1 » Sun May 27, 2018 10:50 pm

Qwigglez wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:Can Booker develop an ISO 3 game like Harden?

To me it would be more valuable than running plays for him to shoot mid-range at 40%.


He's getting there. Booker increased his 3P% slightly this season despite the % of his 3P FG's that are assisted being dropped. He's creating more shot opportunities for himself off the dribble, which is very valuable IMO. I imagine next season his 3P% ticks upward with Ayton on board.


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Post#1968 » by lilfishi22 » Sun May 27, 2018 11:51 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Can Booker develop an ISO 3 game like Harden?

To me it would be more valuable than running plays for him to shoot mid-range at 40%.

Harden is one of the best iso players of all time but he's also playing in one of the best offensive systems which maximises the strengths of Harden's iso abilities like having an elite screen and roller to get the mismatch and also have 3 out perimeter players to maximise spacing in the lane. It's perfectly molded for Harden's isolation style.

I don't think Booker is ever going to get there unless we have a similar system. But like you said there's much more value imo in the Warriors offensive game of ball movement and having the system create open shots than relying on one or two guys to iso.
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Post#1970 » by JMac1 » Sun Jun 3, 2018 1:55 pm

gaspar wrote:


Is it ok if I say this guy is good?
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Post#1971 » by bwgood77 » Sun Jun 3, 2018 8:55 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:Can Booker develop an ISO 3 game like Harden?

To me it would be more valuable than running plays for him to shoot mid-range at 40%.

Harden is one of the best iso players of all time but he's also playing in one of the best offensive systems which maximises the strengths of Harden's iso abilities like having an elite screen and roller to get the mismatch and also have 3 out perimeter players to maximise spacing in the lane. It's perfectly molded for Harden's isolation style.

I don't think Booker is ever going to get there unless we have a similar system. But like you said there's much more value imo in the Warriors offensive game of ball movement and having the system create open shots than relying on one or two guys to iso.


Yeah, Harden is great, but I think him playing so much ISO hurt them and they could have been even better if just played more to D'Antoni system. Getting clean looks and less shots off the dribble is likely in the long run to be more efficient.
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Post#1972 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Jun 3, 2018 11:40 pm

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Mulhollanddrive wrote:Can Booker develop an ISO 3 game like Harden?

To me it would be more valuable than running plays for him to shoot mid-range at 40%.

Harden is one of the best iso players of all time but he's also playing in one of the best offensive systems which maximises the strengths of Harden's iso abilities like having an elite screen and roller to get the mismatch and also have 3 out perimeter players to maximise spacing in the lane. It's perfectly molded for Harden's isolation style.

I don't think Booker is ever going to get there unless we have a similar system. But like you said there's much more value imo in the Warriors offensive game of ball movement and having the system create open shots than relying on one or two guys to iso.


Yeah, Harden is great, but I think him playing so much ISO hurt them and they could have been even better if just played more to D'Antoni system. Getting clean looks and less shots off the dribble is likely in the long run to be more efficient.

I don't disagree. I always kinda thought D'Antoni is a bit lazy with regards to getting superstars to just iso and building around that iso play to maximise its effectiveness. Even when he was with the SSOL Suns, he had one set play (Nash/Amare PnR) and let Nash dictate how he play would run. Likewise with Houston now, it's Harden iso #1 and he just gives him the tools around him to be more effective at that iso possession. Then it would be CP3 iso #2. People like to say that the Rockets are different to the Rockets from a few years ago when Harden was the only offensive player and it would just be Harden iso after Harden iso and while it is significantly more potent because of the weapons around Harden now, it's essentially still just a Harden iso at the core of it.

I don't think Booker will ever have that level of iso game and that's not a knock on him, it's just how good Harden is but I wouldn't necessarily won't him to develop this iso heavy game either so I'm fine Booker being a worse iso player than Harden but I would like him to get better off the ball and get to Harden's efficiency levels. There's multiple routes to becoming a top 10 player in the league and being an elite iso monster is just one of them
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Re: Devin Booker 

Post#1973 » by bwgood77 » Sun Jun 3, 2018 11:53 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Harden is one of the best iso players of all time but he's also playing in one of the best offensive systems which maximises the strengths of Harden's iso abilities like having an elite screen and roller to get the mismatch and also have 3 out perimeter players to maximise spacing in the lane. It's perfectly molded for Harden's isolation style.

I don't think Booker is ever going to get there unless we have a similar system. But like you said there's much more value imo in the Warriors offensive game of ball movement and having the system create open shots than relying on one or two guys to iso.


Yeah, Harden is great, but I think him playing so much ISO hurt them and they could have been even better if just played more to D'Antoni system. Getting clean looks and less shots off the dribble is likely in the long run to be more efficient.

I don't disagree. I always kinda thought D'Antoni is a bit lazy with regards to getting superstars to just iso and building around that iso play to maximise its effectiveness. Even when he was with the SSOL Suns, he had one set play (Nash/Amare PnR) and let Nash dictate how he play would run. Likewise with Houston now, it's Harden iso #1 and he just gives him the tools around him to be more effective at that iso possession. Then it would be CP3 iso #2. People like to say that the Rockets are different to the Rockets from a few years ago when Harden was the only offensive player and it would just be Harden iso after Harden iso and while it is significantly more potent because of the weapons around Harden now, it's essentially still just a Harden iso at the core of it.

I don't think Booker will ever have that level of iso game and that's not a knock on him, it's just how good Harden is but I wouldn't necessarily won't him to develop this iso heavy game either so I'm fine Booker being a worse iso player than Harden but I would like him to get better off the ball and get to Harden's efficiency levels. There's multiple routes to becoming a top 10 player in the league and being an elite iso monster is just one of them


Better ball movement, and better shots for everyone including Booker will make the team better. For example, KD is a great iso player, but he has 156 iso plays already this postseason and only had 63 last postseason and the team was obliterating everyone last year and this year the flow is worse because of more iso. Harden is only really efficient because he gets to the line a lot.

When the ball is moving and everyone has the green light to shoot when open, they play with more fearlessness and confidence, and less hesitation and don't get so used to watching one guy. Of course we need others to improve their shooting for this to work as well, but playing a lot of iso won't work unless you are one of the top few players in the league AND have the perfect role playing low usage players around you. I prefer team ball like the Warriors were last year and before getting Durant.
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Post#1975 » by In2ition » Mon Jun 4, 2018 3:27 pm

I also saw Booker in the 'Night School' movie promo last night during the game. His profile is getting larger.
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Post#1977 » by JMac1 » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:22 pm

In2ition wrote:I also saw Booker in the 'Night School' movie promo last night during the game. His profile is getting larger.



Gotta make him a superstar for that preferential treatment come game time.
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Post#1978 » by 8on » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:17 pm

I have decided that I will not buy any D-Book merchandise until we make the Western Conference Finals. Only then will I be confident that he won’t leave us.

If I buy anything and he leaves, well, that’s a waste of money. Haven’t seen that Bledsoe t-shirt in a minute.....what did I do with it?
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#1979 » by sunsfever68 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:05 am

BVPN wrote:Portis RHJ or Harrell or even Payne would have been better picks imo



Funny to look back at this thread haha
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Re: DEVIN BOOKER 

Post#1980 » by BVPN » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:16 am

sunsfever68 wrote:
BVPN wrote:Portis RHJ or Harrell or even Payne would have been better picks imo



Funny to look back at this thread haha


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