Grunfeld/Brooks=GM/Coach of the Year?

[trast66]

The Bojan trade and the impact on the bench most likely is the best trade in the league this year. Enough to catapult Ernie Grunfeld as a strong candidate for GM of the Year.

In hindsight, I would rate the Bojan trade up there with Parish/McHale for Joe Barry Carroll and Rickey Brown.

I look back on the 26 games the Wizards had Bojan as a golden age.

Laughed out loud at this, wife looking at me like I’m nuts.

Who the heck is milellie111? Has to be someone’s on here alter ego on here to troll. Can not be legitimate.

[BigA]

The Bojan trade and the impact on the bench most likely is the best trade in the league this year. Enough to catapult Ernie Grunfeld as a strong candidate for GM of the Year.

In hindsight, I would rate the Bojan trade up there with Parish/McHale for Joe Barry Carroll and Rickey Brown.

I look back on the 26 games the Wizards had Bojan as a golden age.

Laughed out loud at this, wife looking at me like I’m nuts.

Who the heck is milellie111? Has to be someone’s on here alter ego on here to troll. Can not be legitimate.

milellie111 has a considerable back story here. Some of his/her early posts were anti-Ernie, but at some point this poster assumed an identity that's purely a shill for management. milellie111 only shows up when things are going well for the Wizards. He/she would also regularly start pro-EG threads until the mods ended that. Limiting new threads being part of the culture on the Wizboard.

There's been speculation that milellie111 is an MSE employee, or even Ted's daughter Elle. There was another poster, ZaelleDC, who other posters have also believed is Ted's daughter.

At the end of the 2016 season, milellie111 put up a post that was substantially plagiarized from a post by hands11 on BulletsForever (hands11 is also a legendary poster here, but was banned under mysterious circumstances some years back). While the obvious conclusion would be that they are the same person, most of us have come to doubt this.

milellie111 doesn't address any of the speculation or even argue much. He/she just comes back the next time there's a positive uptick in the Wizards' fortunes with a one or two-liner about how EG and Ted have been right all along.

Your theory that it's the creation of another regular poster is as good as any.

The milellie111-hands11 incident starts here.

[dckingsfan]

The Bojan trade and the impact on the bench most likely is the best trade in the league this year. Enough to catapult Ernie Grunfeld as a strong candidate for GM of the Year.

In hindsight, I would rate the Bojan trade up there with Parish/McHale for Joe Barry Carroll and Rickey Brown.
I look back on the 26 games the Wizards had Bojan as a golden age.

Laughed out loud at this, wife looking at me like I’m nuts.

Who the heck is milellie111? Has to be someone’s on here alter ego on here to troll. Can not be legitimate.

And since history has a way of repeating itself - who is Grunfeld's next Bojan?

[BigA]

In hindsight, I would rate the Bojan trade up there with Parish/McHale for Joe Barry Carroll and Rickey Brown.
I look back on the 26 games the Wizards had Bojan as a golden age.

Laughed out loud at this, wife looking at me like I’m nuts.

Who the heck is milellie111? Has to be someone’s on here alter ego on here to troll. Can not be legitimate.

And since history has a way of repeating itself - who is Grunfeld's next Bojan?

Good question. When they trade the #15 with salaries to get under the tax line before the draft, they'll have to take someone back who they can spin as an upgrade or contributor of some sort.

[nate33]

Laughed out loud at this, wife looking at me like I’m nuts.

Who the heck is milellie111? Has to be someone’s on here alter ego on here to troll. Can not be legitimate.

And since history has a way of repeating itself - who is Grunfeld's next Bojan?

Good question. When they trade the #15 with salaries to get under the tax line before the draft, they'll have to take someone back who they can spin as an upgrade or contributor of some sort.

I wouldn't worry about this scenario. If Grunfeld was going to camouflage a dumping of a contract, he would have done so at the Trade Deadline this season. It would have been easier (and cheaper) to exchange a pick for an expiring contract last February than it would be right now to dump a contract onto one of only a handful of teams with the cap room to absorb one.

Believe it or not, I think Ernie/Ted were sincere in their assertion that they wanted to add a young player using a draft pick this year.

That said, the team still has a dire need to unload some salary. I fully expect that they will trade their 2019 pick either now or by the Trade Deadline in order to get Smith and/or Meeks off the books and get out from the luxtax and avoid a repeater tax in the following year. Basically, they'll pay the tax for 2017-18 season just completed. They'll trade a pick to avoid the tax in the 2018-19 season. They'll pay the tax in 2019-20. And then Mahinmi is off the books and they'll try and avoid the tax in 2020-21. They'll end up paying the luxtax twice, but never a repeater tax.

[pcbothwel]

And since history has a way of repeating itself - who is Grunfeld's next Bojan?

Good question. When they trade the #15 with salaries to get under the tax line before the draft, they'll have to take someone back who they can spin as an upgrade or contributor of some sort.

I wouldn't worry about this scenario. If Grunfeld was going to camouflage a dumping of a contract, he would have done so at the Trade Deadline this season. It would have been easier (and cheaper) to exchange a pick for an expiring contract last February than it would be right now to dump a contract onto one of only a handful of teams with the cap room to absorb one.

Believe it or not, I think Ernie/Ted were sincere in their assertion that they wanted to add a young player using a draft pick this year.

That said, the team still has a dire need to unload some salary. I fully expect that they will trade their 2019 pick either now or by the Trade Deadline in order to get Smith and/or Meeks off the books and get out from the luxtax and avoid a repeater tax in the following year. Basically, they'll pay the tax for 2017-18 season just completed. They'll trade a pick to avoid the tax in the 2018-19 season. They'll pay the tax in 2019-20. And then Mahinmi is off the books and they'll try and avoid the tax in 2020-21. They'll end up paying the luxtax twice, but never a repeater tax.

Nate,
No way they trade that pick with Smith and Meeks without getting another pick or player in return. No reason too.
We can pay up to 5.1M in cash to a team willing to take them, and at the deadline their total will be just about that amount. No different than Sheldon Mac last year.
Except, there is still an outside chance one or both (Gun to my head, I think Meeks) could return to form and be a neutral asset.

[nate33]

Good question. When they trade the #15 with salaries to get under the tax line before the draft, they'll have to take someone back who they can spin as an upgrade or contributor of some sort.

I wouldn't worry about this scenario. If Grunfeld was going to camouflage a dumping of a contract, he would have done so at the Trade Deadline this season. It would have been easier (and cheaper) to exchange a pick for an expiring contract last February than it would be right now to dump a contract onto one of only a handful of teams with the cap room to absorb one.

Believe it or not, I think Ernie/Ted were sincere in their assertion that they wanted to add a young player using a draft pick this year.

That said, the team still has a dire need to unload some salary. I fully expect that they will trade their 2019 pick either now or by the Trade Deadline in order to get Smith and/or Meeks off the books and get out from the luxtax and avoid a repeater tax in the following year. Basically, they'll pay the tax for 2017-18 season just completed. They'll trade a pick to avoid the tax in the 2018-19 season. They'll pay the tax in 2019-20. And then Mahinmi is off the books and they'll try and avoid the tax in 2020-21. They'll end up paying the luxtax twice, but never a repeater tax.

Nate,
No way they trade that pick with Smith and Meeks without getting another pick or player in return. No reason too.
We can pay up to 5.1M in cash to a team willing to take them, and at the deadline their total will be just about that amount. No different than Sheldon Mac last year.
Except, there is still an outside chance one or both (Gun to my head, I think Meeks) could return to form and be a neutral asset.

It'll be a buyer's market. Yes, we can send the cash to pay for their salaries, but the team with cap room that we deal with is going to be getting nice offers from other teams to absorb their bad contracts. We will probably have to include more than just cash. Hopefully, it'll only be a 2nd round pick and not the 1st.

[BigA]

So the under this scenario, they pay the tax for 2017-2018 but are able to get under for 2018-2019?

[nate33]

So the under this scenario, they pay the tax for 2017-2018 but are able to get under for 2018-2019?

Right.

By the Trade Deadline this year, EG will find a way to dump Smith and Meeks onto a team with cap room. He'll give them cash to offset their remaining pro-rated salary, and he'll give some more incentive, probably a pick. Hopefully, it'll just be a 2nd round pick but it wouldn't surprise me if it costs a 1st. Once those contracts get traded away, they won't factor in the 2018-2019 luxtax calculation (which doesn't actually get tabulated until the end of the season and it is based on only those salaries still on the books at the end of the season).

Ted is paying about $14.5M in luxtax surcharges on top of the combined $8.9M in salary owed to Smith and Meeks. So by moving them (and after accounting for the cash included to pay their remaining prorated salaries), Ted saves $14.5M out of pocket. Any owner would trade away a 2nd round pick for $14.5M.