Frank Ntilikina is GROWING!

[Ignitowsky]

hes the next mardy collins...taking him over mitchell was the blunder of the decade

Spare us the hyperbolic bs. The Knicks were one of 12 teams to pass on him. But you already knew that.

except most of those other 12 teams scored on their players and are happy with who they got . frank was 25th in rookies for ppg. total bust selection considering studs like mitchell were still available on the board

NO ONE had the expectation that a 19 year old kid coming from Europe, playing in a dysfunctional offensive and defensive system, would be anything but a PROJECT. Even given all if that his 3 point shooting % was within 2 points of Mitchell's and his per 36 rebounds and assists were about the same.

But here's the interesting thing. Frank gave up .65 ppp in PnR defense, best in the league. I'm sure I don't need to remind you of Kanter's horrific defense, or the fact that porzingis missed a significant part of the season.

the kid is a gym rat and is still developing physically and mentally. He has excellent shooting mechanics and is putting in the work to improve his handle and his ability to finish at the rim. he now has a coach that will teach him how to be a better NBA player and that will use him in ways that will increase the possibility of him succeeding in any given situation.

I know that you're not a 14 year old kid jumping to conclusions about a first-year player based on incomplete and/or missing information. it really surprises me that someone that's been around as long as you have would so quicklyjump to such a naive conclusion. ANY experienced basketball fan knows that you often can't really judge a draft years after it's taken place. To call Frank a bust at this point is just completely ridiculous.

[Manhattan Project]

except most of those other 12 teams scored on their players and are happy with who they got . frank was 25th in rookies for ppg. total bust selection considering studs like mitchell were still available on the board

Are the Pistons happy?
Are the Hornets happy?
Why do people conveniently ignore the fact that two guys who play the same position went before Mitchell? Or are they allowed to improve while Frank is forever doomed to be a bust?

[Scalabrine]

I like him A lot at the 2 if he's a solid 6"6. So Young to the Knick?

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No way Young gets past Orlando, Chicago, Cleveland.

Right now I have:
1. Suns - Ayton
2. Kings - Doncic
3. Hawks - Jackson
4. Grizzlies - Bagley
5. Mavs - Bamba
6. Magic - Young
7. Bulls - Porter
8. Cavs - Mikal Bridges
9. Knicks - Carter
10. Sixers - Walker
11. Hornets - SGA
12. Clippers - Sexton
13. Clippers - Williams
14. Nuggets - Bridges

[Pharmcat]

Spare us the hyperbolic bs. The Knicks were one of 12 teams to pass on him. But you already knew that.

except most of those other 12 teams scored on their players and are happy with who they got . frank was 25th in rookies for ppg. total bust selection considering studs like mitchell were still available on the board

NO ONE had the expectation that a 19 year old kid coming from Europe, playing in a dysfunctional offensive and defensive system, would be anything but a PROJECT. Even given all if that his 3 point shooting % was within 2 points of Mitchell's and his per 36 rebounds and assists were about the same.

But here's the interesting thing. Frank gave up .65 ppp in PnR defense, best in the league. I'm sure I don't need to remind you of Kanter's horrific defense, or the fact that porzingis missed a significant part of the season.

the kid is a gym rat and is still developing physically and mentally. He has excellent shooting mechanics and is putting in the work to improve his handle and his ability to finish at the rim. he now has a coach that will teach him how to be a better NBA player and that will use him in ways that will increase the possibility of him succeeding in any given situation.

I know that you're not a 14 year old kid jumping to conclusions about a first-year player based on incomplete and/or missing information. it really surprises me that someone that's been around as long as you have would so quicklyjump to such a naive conclusion. ANY experienced basketball fan knows that you often can't really judge a draft years after it's taken place. To call Frank a bust at this point is just completely ridiculous.

lol per 36 stat is a joke, its easy to extrapolate stats without the player having to play those minutes to put up those said stats.
you cant argue Frank with Mitchell, its a losing argument. Mitchell is much more talented and it was a blunder to not pick him.

[Mamba Mentality]

I'm sure Lebron's criticism still rings in his ear...anyways its nice to see young players grow and put in work during the offseason. I hope for Knick fans this translates on the court, they could really use a second fiddle to KP.

[DimesandKnicks]

except most of those other 12 teams scored on their players and are happy with who they got . frank was 25th in rookies for ppg. total bust selection considering studs like mitchell were still available on the board

NO ONE had the expectation that a 19 year old kid coming from Europe, playing in a dysfunctional offensive and defensive system, would be anything but a PROJECT. Even given all if that his 3 point shooting % was within 2 points of Mitchell's and his per 36 rebounds and assists were about the same.

But here's the interesting thing. Frank gave up .65 ppp in PnR defense, best in the league. I'm sure I don't need to remind you of Kanter's horrific defense, or the fact that porzingis missed a significant part of the season.

the kid is a gym rat and is still developing physically and mentally. He has excellent shooting mechanics and is putting in the work to improve his handle and his ability to finish at the rim. he now has a coach that will teach him how to be a better NBA player and that will use him in ways that will increase the possibility of him succeeding in any given situation.

I know that you're not a 14 year old kid jumping to conclusions about a first-year player based on incomplete and/or missing information. it really surprises me that someone that's been around as long as you have would so quicklyjump to such a naive conclusion. ANY experienced basketball fan knows that you often can't really judge a draft years after it's taken place. To call Frank a bust at this point is just completely ridiculous.

lol per 36 stat is a joke, its easy to extrapolate stats without the player having to play those minutes to put up those said stats.
you cant argue Frank with Mitchell, its a losing argument. Mitchell is much more talented and it was a blunder to not pick him.

Folks, Frank will be 20 in July. He's the younger than some of the guys who are suppose to go in the lottery this year.

[dakomish23]

The passing and defense are real. I think he just made rookie mistakes and the Knicks didn’t have the patience (no surprise) to go through the rough times.

Once the game slows down for him and he has more confidence in his jumper, he will show how impactful he really is.

[matt6715]

What's a good ceiling comp for him?

6 foot 6 Jrue Holiday IMO

[GrandTheftRondo]

NO ONE had the expectation that a 19 year old kid coming from Europe, playing in a dysfunctional offensive and defensive system, would be anything but a PROJECT. Even given all if that his 3 point shooting % was within 2 points of Mitchell's and his per 36 rebounds and assists were about the same.

But here's the interesting thing. Frank gave up .65 ppp in PnR defense, best in the league. I'm sure I don't need to remind you of Kanter's horrific defense, or the fact that porzingis missed a significant part of the season.

the kid is a gym rat and is still developing physically and mentally. He has excellent shooting mechanics and is putting in the work to improve his handle and his ability to finish at the rim. he now has a coach that will teach him how to be a better NBA player and that will use him in ways that will increase the possibility of him succeeding in any given situation.

I know that you're not a 14 year old kid jumping to conclusions about a first-year player based on incomplete and/or missing information. it really surprises me that someone that's been around as long as you have would so quicklyjump to such a naive conclusion. ANY experienced basketball fan knows that you often can't really judge a draft years after it's taken place. To call Frank a bust at this point is just completely ridiculous.

lol per 36 stat is a joke, its easy to extrapolate stats without the player having to play those minutes to put up those said stats.
you cant argue Frank with Mitchell, its a losing argument. Mitchell is much more talented and it was a blunder to not pick him.

Folks, Frank will be 20 in July. He's the younger than some of the guys who are suppose to go in the lottery this year.

So?

Do you honestly think in a few years he's going to be as good as Donovan Mitchell?

[DimesandKnicks]

lol per 36 stat is a joke, its easy to extrapolate stats without the player having to play those minutes to put up those said stats.
you cant argue Frank with Mitchell, its a losing argument. Mitchell is much more talented and it was a blunder to not pick him.

Folks, Frank will be 20 in July. He's the younger than some of the guys who are suppose to go in the lottery this year.

So?

Do you honestly think in a few years he's going to be as good as Donovan Mitchell?

Might be more impactful. He's already elite defensively and I'm encouraged by his instincts as a passer. But him not being better than Mitchell, the guy who could be ROY doesn't make him a bust

[TacoLord]

Frank is growing and...

[GatorbaitDD]

What do Knicks fans think of a pick swap with Orlando with Frank as compensation? Allows Knicks to get Young.

[Jonathan starks]

How many ppl on the general board really watch Knick games, honestly?


If you watched him play this year there’s no way you should be praising him

[Jonathan starks]

What do Knicks fans think of a pick swap with Orlando with Frank as compensation? Allows Knicks to get Young.

Done

[Karate Diop]

It's great that he's growing... But getting taller won't fix the myriad of issues with his game.

[Michael Jordan]

Frank is a bust.

[UcanUwill]

Frank is a bust.

Far too early to tell. Dude averaged like 4 points in France, everybody knew his game is not ready...

[ZKnicks]

Folks, Frank will be 20 in July. He's the younger than some of the guys who are suppose to go in the lottery this year.

Seriously...
He's younger than like half of the projected lotto picks this year. Guy would have been a freshman in college last year if he was born in the US.
Let's look at another high level French player to come over recently.

When this guy was drafted by Utah and posted rookie numbers of 2.3 pts/3.4 rebs/0.9 blocks a game at the age of 21, was he declared a BUST?
Give the kid a chance to grow into his body and find his confidence.

Personally, I love his game and I think he is going to be a hell of a player. I don't think it's fair to say he is a bust before he at least is old enough to drink legally

[Ignitowsky]

except most of those other 12 teams scored on their players and are happy with who they got . frank was 25th in rookies for ppg. total bust selection considering studs like mitchell were still available on the board

NO ONE had the expectation that a 19 year old kid coming from Europe, playing in a dysfunctional offensive and defensive system, would be anything but a PROJECT. Even given all if that his 3 point shooting % was within 2 points of Mitchell's and his per 36 rebounds and assists were about the same.

But here's the interesting thing. Frank gave up .65 ppp in PnR defense, best in the league. I'm sure I don't need to remind you of Kanter's horrific defense, or the fact that porzingis missed a significant part of the season.

the kid is a gym rat and is still developing physically and mentally. He has excellent shooting mechanics and is putting in the work to improve his handle and his ability to finish at the rim. he now has a coach that will teach him how to be a better NBA player and that will use him in ways that will increase the possibility of him succeeding in any given situation.

I know that you're not a 14 year old kid jumping to conclusions about a first-year player based on incomplete and/or missing information. it really surprises me that someone that's been around as long as you have would so quicklyjump to such a naive conclusion. ANY experienced basketball fan knows that you often can't really judge a draft years after it's taken place. To call Frank a bust at this point is just completely ridiculous.

lol per 36 stat is a joke, its easy to extrapolate stats without the player having to play those minutes to put up those said stats.
you cant argue Frank with Mitchell, its a losing argument. Mitchell is much more talented and it was a blunder to not pick him.

it's sad that you don't why it's not fair to compare the statistics of two players when one of them played 50% more minutes than the other. It's also sad that you would call the kid a bust at age 19, coming from Europe, and being drafted as a project.

No one is saying he's as good as Mitchell, at least offensively, and he will probably never put up the offense of numbers that Mitchell does, but I think he has a good chance to be more of an impact player on both ends of the floor. As I said in a previous post the kid was already the best in the league in pick-and-roll defense, no small achievement when you're playing with guys like enes Kanter.

Keep drinking that haterade though. You've been doing it for years. Why Stop Now?

[Cavsfansince84]

Is Frank still growing even now? I'm concerned he's going to be over 8 ft tall by the time the next season starts.