2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL

[LuessiT]

Looks like Larry Sanders on offense. If you want this type of player, you could probably get him from OKL in Roberson. I just don't see how either are playable with Giannis on the court unless we draft a real PG.

We play Henson next to Giannis and it seems to work out

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Is this guy a center? I thought he was a SF?

He's definitely PF sized. Not even undersized for center. I wouldn't play him much at SF though he should be able to hold his own defensively at any position really.

[Badgerlander]

My worry with Okobo is that he only goes left. Not the world's largest flaw, but it means he can't run a lot of that PnR action to get Giannis the ball on the left side, as that entails only going right. If he was a right handed player, I'd much prefer him, but being lefty is a disadvantage, since it leaves him out of sync with the rest of the team.

But he still might be my favorite prospect likely to be there at 17, a guy with decent physical attributes that can shoot and pass of dribble would be very valuable.

And, yeah, on ball defense matters. Bledsoe is the only Buck that is good at on ball defense and that is a big reason he helped the team this season despite being a trash defender off the ball.

Bledsoe was exposed in the playoffs because he couldn’t move laterally to stay in front of Rozier. Any crossover got him an open 3 and all Bledsoe could do is stand and watch.

Bledsoe is still so much better laterally than any other player. Most PGs are slower laterally than Bledsoe.

How many times did Rozier hit Bledsoe with a crossover like that? Once, when Bledsoe tried to defend the pass and got too far from Rozier.

One of the reasons Bucks struggled early is that Brogdon is a terrible defender of PGs, couldn't contain penetration. Snell, Giannis, Middleton, and Jabari are all also trash at containing dribble penetration.

Bledsoe is literally the most difficult Buck to cross up. He stays with guys one on one. His defense was bad in postseason, but lacking quickness was not why.

Once? Lol. Rozier owned Bledsoe in the playoffs. Bledsoe doesn’t lack lateral quickness he lacks meniscus. He gave up trying to move laterally and just backed up trying to contain drives and let Rozier shoot open threes every single game

[Badgerlander]

Looks like Larry Sanders on offense. If you want this type of player, you could probably get him from OKL in Roberson. I just don't see how either are playable with Giannis on the court unless we draft a real PG.

We play Henson next to Giannis and it seems to work out
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Is this guy a center? I thought he was a SF?

6’9” in shoes with a 7’1” wingspan and a 39.5” vertical. Solid PF size

[RealBucksFan]

Bledsoe was exposed in the playoffs because he couldn’t move laterally to stay in front of Rozier. Any crossover got him an open 3 and all Bledsoe could do is stand and watch.

Bledsoe is still so much better laterally than any other player. Most PGs are slower laterally than Bledsoe.

How many times did Rozier hit Bledsoe with a crossover like that? Once, when Bledsoe tried to defend the pass and got too far from Rozier.

One of the reasons Bucks struggled early is that Brogdon is a terrible defender of PGs, couldn't contain penetration. Snell, Giannis, Middleton, and Jabari are all also trash at containing dribble penetration.

Bledsoe is literally the most difficult Buck to cross up. He stays with guys one on one. His defense was bad in postseason, but lacking quickness was not why.

Once? Lol. Rozier owned Bledsoe in the playoffs. Bledsoe doesn’t lack lateral quickness he lacks meniscus. He gave up trying to move laterally and just backed up trying to contain drives and let Rozier shoot open threes every single game

He still has by far the best lateral quickness on the team.

[Gam]

Looks like Larry Sanders on offense. If you want this type of player, you could probably get him from OKL in Roberson. I just don't see how either are playable with Giannis on the court unless we draft a real PG.

We play Henson next to Giannis and it seems to work out

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Is this guy a center? I thought he was a SF?

He's position-less, can switch 1-5 and guard 2-4 and most 5s. Also he's an infinitely better rebounder and ball handler than Roberson, and makes like 8m less a year than him (if we were to draft him at 17).

[RealBucksFan]

A guard that can shoot 3s off the dribble would certainly be nice to have. Tough to gauge Okobo on his film, he looks quicker with the ball as the season goes on but most of the defense he plays against is terrible so its tough to get a feel for what he will be able to do against nba defenses. He makes some good decisions with the ball.

As far as Melton, I'm more concerned with shot creation for others than his own shooting. His defense I think would make a world of difference. Just imagine actual defense on Rozier instead of Bledsoe on ice skates, and I'd much rather have Melton's smart passing than watching Bledsoe pound the air out of the ball on offense. Teague and Schroder aren't great shooters and Bud found a way to make it work for the most part.

It will be very interesting to see how Bud handles the PG position. I cant imagine he will want to go forward with Bledsoe after trying to push Teague out the door in Atlanta. If we do draft a guard I bet Bud tries to bring him along quickly like he did with Schroder, but Schroder was a decent defender to begin with.

My worry with Okobo is that he only goes left. Not the world's largest flaw, but it means he can't run a lot of that PnR action to get Giannis the ball on the left side, as that entails only going right. If he was a right handed player, I'd much prefer him, but being lefty is a disadvantage, since it leaves him out of sync with the rest of the team.

But he still might be my favorite prospect likely to be there at 17, a guy with decent physical attributes that can shoot and pass of dribble would be very valuable.

And, yeah, on ball defense matters. Bledsoe is the only Buck that is good at on ball defense and that is a big reason he helped the team this season despite being a trash defender off the ball.

I've watched a lot of film an Okobo and I'll show you that this is a non-issue when I get home. He's been going right plenty of times as the season went on with decent success. Can finish with his right too though finishing isn't his strong suit.

I'll be honest I have Okobo at 7 right now and as the first guard off the board. I'd be ecstatic if the Bucks were to draft him.

Alright, I am not super informed on the draft this year, but if you have watched a lot of Okobo, I'll defer to you, I appreciate the insight.

Yeah, he is an interesting prospect, Bucks need a guard that can hit threes off the dribble.

[emunney]

Is this guy a center? I thought he was a SF?

He's definitely PF sized. Not even undersized for center. I wouldn't play him much at SF though he should be able to hold his own defensively at any position really.

Yeah, the fact that he's got more than enough functional size/strength in the NCAA at 19 is a very good sign for him being able to end up with similar advantages in the NBA. He also covers a tremendous amount of ground, dizzying how he whips around the court on defense. Would be almost-but-not-quite like having two Giannises on the defensive end. My plan for him would be to be Giannis' sub as a rookie, though, with a few experimental/situational side-by-side minutes.

Also please just trade DJ Wilson for whatever.

[M-C-G]

Is this guy a center? I thought he was a SF?

He's definitely PF sized. Not even undersized for center. I wouldn't play him much at SF though he should be able to hold his own defensively at any position really.

Yeah, the fact that he's got more than enough functional size/strength in the NCAA at 19 is a very good sign for him being able to end up with similar advantages in the NBA. He also covers a tremendous amount of ground, dizzying how he whips around the court on defense. Would be almost-but-not-quite like having two Giannises on the defensive end. My plan for him would be to be Giannis' sub as a rookie, though, with a few experimental/situational side-by-side minutes.

Also please just trade DJ Wilson for whatever.

Alright, I trust you guys. The Ringer had him listed as a SF, so I never thought of him as a big.

[emunney]

He's definitely PF sized. Not even undersized for center. I wouldn't play him much at SF though he should be able to hold his own defensively at any position really.

Yeah, the fact that he's got more than enough functional size/strength in the NCAA at 19 is a very good sign for him being able to end up with similar advantages in the NBA. He also covers a tremendous amount of ground, dizzying how he whips around the court on defense. Would be almost-but-not-quite like having two Giannises on the defensive end. My plan for him would be to be Giannis' sub as a rookie, though, with a few experimental/situational side-by-side minutes.

Also please just trade DJ Wilson for whatever.

Alright, I trust you guys. The Ringer had him listed as a SF, so I never thought of him as a big.

He would be more along the lines of Jordan Bell than Al Horford, if that helps.

[mke_design]

Is there a “who the hell is this guy?” option? That’s what we’re gonna do, I guarantee it.


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[Bernman]

Is there a “who the hell is this guy?” option? That’s what we’re gonna do, I guarantee it.


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[Bernman]

He would be more along the lines of Jordan Bell than Al Horford, if that helps.

That's who I thought of too. Maybe Shawn Marion if he staves off the injuries and develops a little range. IMO not worth the risk in our situation. That player doesn't complement Giannis well in theory. Okobo does, while having as much upside as more.

[mke_design]

Is there a “who the hell is this guy?” option? That’s what we’re gonna do, I guarantee it.


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Chimezie Metu

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I’ll earmark this as my current choice. I actually like his game *dontknow*


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[emunney]

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[Gam]

He would be more along the lines of Jordan Bell than Al Horford, if that helps.

That's who I thought of too. Maybe Shawn Marion if he staves off the injuries and develops a little range. IMO not worth the risk in our situation. That player doesn't complement Giannis well in theory. Okobo does, while having as much upside as more.

To be clear I really like Vanderbilt, and do think he compliments Giannis fairly well if used properly (especially in minutes that Giannis plays the 5), but Okobo is my #1 guy that has a chance-in-hell of being there at 17. Would love to get both ideally.

Robinson, Spellman, Melton, Simons, Heurter, KBD, Brunson round out the list guys I'd be happy with us taking at 17.

[midranger]

I think I'd be down to trade our 17 for 28, 38, and 39. Seems like there's not a lot that separates most of these guys.

I'd be okay with rolling the dice 3 times rather than once.

[leroyjw10]

Is this guy a center? I thought he was a SF?

6’9” in shoes with a 7’1” wingspan and a 39.5” vertical. Solid PF size

ESPN and The Ringer has him at 6'8, 214 pounds. That's a SF's body. Now, he has the game of a center (see the ONE 3-point attempt in 238 minutes and 63% mark from the line). So basically he has the skills of a 1980s center in the body of a modern-day SF with the feet of Bill Walton.

I can not pass on this guy quickly enough.

[RealBucksFan]

I think I'd be down to trade our 17 for 28, 38, and 39. Seems like there's not a lot that separates most of these guys.

I'd be okay with rolling the dice 3 times rather than once.

Oh yeah, if that is on the table, go for it. Unless there is an unexpected slider, like SGA.

Bucks need all the young talent they can get.

[Gianstoppable]

I think I'd be down to trade our 17 for 28, 38, and 39. Seems like there's not a lot that separates most of these guys.

I'd be okay with rolling the dice 3 times rather than once.

Oh yeah, if that is on the table, go for it. Unless there is an unexpected slider, like SGA.

Bucks need all the young talent they can get.

Yeah also protects roster spots so we don't sign more overpaid bench guys that will get you the same level of production as said draft picks

[Gam]

6’9” in shoes with a 7’1” wingspan and a 39.5” vertical. Solid PF size

ESPN and The Ringer has him at 6'8, 214 pounds. That's a SF's body. Now, he has the game of a center (see the ONE 3-point attempt in 238 minutes and 63% mark from the line). So basically he has the skills of a 1980s center in the body of a modern-day SF with the feet of Bill Walton.

I can not pass on this guy quickly enough.

Dennis Rodman Comp does nothing for ya?