Michael Porter Jr.

BlueSan · Post #221 » by **BlueSan** » Sat Jun 2, 2018 6:59 am

saintEscaton wrote:Still think he's being mightily slept on even with the red flags

Because of his 6,11 and high school fame? ----> possible potential?

sam_I_am · Post #222 » by **sam_I_am** » Sat Jun 2, 2018 12:05 pm

Fischella wrote:Dean is terribly wrong on that btw, 2017 was Fultz, 2015 was Towns, 2014, Parker tied with Wiggins and 2013 was Noel

Here is an interesting list of best HS players in 2015 including grades 9-12:

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2015/8/11/9128381/five-star-recruits-nba-draft-prospects

Post #223 » by **QRich3** » Mon Jun 4, 2018 9:50 am

The-Power wrote:
QRich3 wrote:Which, even if you want to look at other mocks or different dates, gives weight to Dr Positivity's point about the uncertainty of the top high school's prospect's evaluation.

I mean, couldn't we say the same about the draft in general? Even after we saw one college season, many high picks turn out to be merely rotational players or worse. There's uncertainty and overhype no matter if these guys are picked straight out of HS or after one, two years of college. Of course any additional data, footage against better players, playing for good programs etc. helps to evaluate the players and reduce uncertainty a bit, but the draft at the top remains a crapshoot nonetheless and uncertainty and failure to meet expectations remain incredibly high.

Definitely, I think that tweet was just highlighting how much less we've seen of Porter than other guys, and as you say, those are already hard to project. Which is an obvious thing to say about the draft, but still an important point about why Porter could fall more than expected.

pcbothwel · Post #224 » by **pcbothwel** » Mon Jun 4, 2018 5:38 pm

BlueSan wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:Still think he's being mightily slept on even with the red flags

Because of his 6,11 and high school fame? ----> possible potential?

I've said it before. I dont see Paul George, I see Melo-lite/Rudy Gay/Higher IQ Beasley
Run Jump athlete, but only above average first step and lateral quickness. Low IQ on defense and poor vision.

BlueSan · Post #225 » by **BlueSan** » Mon Jun 4, 2018 5:42 pm

interesting. Well it should be fun anyway.

saintEscaton · Post #226 » by **saintEscaton** » Mon Jun 4, 2018 11:08 pm

He's at least the same level of prospect as Jayson Tatum if not better

Post #227 » by **GimmeDat** » Tue Jun 5, 2018 7:04 am

I won't to be proved wrong because he seems like the Bulls most likely pick, but I'm skeptical. I mean, he should be able to score the rock, for sure, but I liked guys like Tatum a lot more.

PerkinsFor3 · Post #228 » by **PerkinsFor3** » Tue Jun 5, 2018 11:13 am

pcbothwel wrote:
BlueSan wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:Still think he's being mightily slept on even with the red flags

Because of his 6,11 and high school fame? ----> possible potential?

I've said it before. I dont see Paul George, I see Melo-lite/Rudy Gay/Higher IQ Beasley
Run Jump athlete, but only above average first step and lateral quickness. Low IQ on defense and poor vision.

Jabari?

big-shot-ROB · Post #229 » by **big-shot-ROB** » Tue Jun 5, 2018 11:17 am

saintEscaton wrote:He's at least the same level of prospect as Jayson Tatum if not better

This is a ridiculous take.

WalterBenjamin · Post #230 » by **WalterBenjamin** » Tue Jun 5, 2018 11:52 am

big-shot-ROB wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:He's at least the same level of prospect as Jayson Tatum if not better

This is a ridiculous take.

Wasnt that high on Tatum but yeah not close. Tatum more versatile on pull ups.

OGLife · Post #231 » by **OGLife** » Tue Jun 5, 2018 11:53 am

big-shot-ROB wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:He's at least the same level of prospect as Jayson Tatum if not better

This is a ridiculous take.

It’s not. And I feel like he will be the best pro from the draft class.

916fan · Post #232 » by **916fan** » Tue Jun 5, 2018 12:16 pm

big-shot-ROB wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:He's at least the same level of prospect as Jayson Tatum if not better

This is a ridiculous take.

we got hindsight to look at. Nobody had Tatum top 3 last year. Most places had him slotted around #7, right where Porter Jr is. They share very similar concerns..except the back surgery.

pcbothwel · Post #233 » by **pcbothwel** » Tue Jun 5, 2018 2:05 pm

PerkinsFor3 wrote:
pcbothwel wrote:
BlueSan wrote:
Because of his 6,11 and high school fame? ----> possible potential?

I've said it before. I dont see Paul George, I see Melo-lite/Rudy Gay/Higher IQ Beasley
Run Jump athlete, but only above average first step and lateral quickness. Low IQ on defense and poor vision.

Jabari?

Good comp. Again, I havent seen enough to pin down the best comp, but you get the gist
Guys who underwhelm, get overpaid, and dont lead to wins... No thanks

OGLife · Post #234 » by **OGLife** » Tue Jun 5, 2018 3:23 pm

He’s a rich Rashard Lewis

BlueSan · Post #235 » by **BlueSan** » Tue Jun 5, 2018 6:21 pm

916fan wrote:
big-shot-ROB wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:He's at least the same level of prospect as Jayson Tatum if not better

This is a ridiculous take.

we got hindsight to look at. Nobody had Tatum top 3 last year. Most places had him slotted around #7, right where Porter Jr is. They share very similar concerns..except the back surgery.

And seeing zero play of college basketball
And missing 1 year of play and development in college basketball
And those two games we saw him he well doesnt impress...

So you sure surgery is the only concern?

DirtyDez · Post #236 » by **DirtyDez** » Tue Jun 5, 2018 7:29 pm

Where are the youtube workout vids that gets everyone fired up this time a yea? I’ve been looking forward to MPJ’s even though it means nothing.

CP War Hawks · Post #237 » by **CP War Hawks** » Tue Jun 5, 2018 9:22 pm

Is this dude not working out for teams yet. I'd assume he'd be the first and try to get his name buzzing on the workout trail.

Truebiscuit · Post #238 » by **Truebiscuit** » Tue Jun 5, 2018 9:44 pm

CP War Hawks wrote:Is this dude not working out for teams yet. I'd assume he'd be the first and try to get his name buzzing on the workout trail.

DirtyDez wrote:Where are the youtube workout vids that gets everyone fired up this time a yea? I’ve been looking forward to MPJ’s even though it means nothing.

He's got his Pro Day in Chicago Friday.

CP War Hawks · Post #239 » by **CP War Hawks** » Wed Jun 6, 2018 1:55 am

Truebiscuit wrote:
CP War Hawks wrote:Is this dude not working out for teams yet. I'd assume he'd be the first and try to get his name buzzing on the workout trail.

DirtyDez wrote:Where are the youtube workout vids that gets everyone fired up this time a yea? I’ve been looking forward to MPJ’s even though it means nothing.

He's got his Pro Day in Chicago tomorrow.

Okay that's good to know. Is he working out for the Hawks or any other teams. If he doesn't want to work out here than they I wouldn't bother considering him.

kodo · Post #240 » by **kodo** » Wed Jun 6, 2018 2:20 am

CP War Hawks wrote:
Truebiscuit wrote:
CP War Hawks wrote:Is this dude not working out for teams yet. I'd assume he'd be the first and try to get his name buzzing on the workout trail.

DirtyDez wrote:Where are the youtube workout vids that gets everyone fired up this time a yea? I’ve been looking forward to MPJ’s even though it means nothing.

He's got his Pro Day in Chicago tomorrow.

Okay that's good to know. Is he working out for the Hawks or any other teams. If he doesn't want to work out here than they I wouldn't bother considering him.

Kings & Grizzlies confirmed they will be there, but other teams probably will be as well.