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2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL

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Who Do You Want at #17 - Pick 3

Troy Brown Jr
11
3%
Zhaire Smith
79
24%
Kevin Huerter
46
14%
Donte DivVincenzo
43
13%
Elie Okobo
43
13%
Chandler Hutchinson
10
3%
De'Anthony Melton
22
7%
Jarred Vanderbilt
11
3%
Khyri Thomas
49
15%
Josh Okogie
15
5%
 
Total votes: 329

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Re: 2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL 

Post#201 » by msiris » Tue Jun 5, 2018 3:02 pm

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One of the things I like about him is that even though his skills are very basic, he does everything with purpose. So you can imagine if he can get a *basic* crossover and a *basic* in-and-out to go with that *basic* hesi and combine it with his electric first step, he's probably going to be getting into the paint quite a bit to use those big man skills.
I just feel that he is just another guy who does not provide any form of spacing.


You’d draft him banking on him developing along a Jaylen Brown, Oladipo, Donovan Mitchell type curve. Following the model of the Celtics and putting 5 guys on the floor that can defend, pass, drive, or shoot. Not just a wing and some shooters like the Cavs
I you read the article he is not a defender nor a shooter. And the Cavs won anyways.
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Post#202 » by emunney » Tue Jun 5, 2018 3:04 pm

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Some of the video footage on Smith is pretty awesome


One of the things I like about him is that even though his skills are very basic, he does everything with purpose. So you can imagine if he can get a *basic* crossover and a *basic* in-and-out to go with that *basic* hesi and combine it with his electric first step, he's probably going to be getting into the paint quite a bit to use those big man skills.
I just feel that he is just another guy who does not provide any form of spacing.


He's got a nice easy shot. The caveat with all these guys is will they be dedicated enough, and will they put in the *right* work. That's unknown for everyone. I look at the bones of this guy's game though and I don't see any major problems that need to be corrected - he doesn't need to take any steps back to move forward. All I see is a strong, broad foundation to build on.

The only issue I have is his smallish hands.
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Post#203 » by ReddRum » Tue Jun 5, 2018 3:05 pm

How high of a draft pick do you guys think we could get if we sign and trade Jabari, and package Bledsoe and Henson as well? I am willing to include #17 as well but as a last resort. Having two 1st rounders would be huge!
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Post#204 » by emunney » Tue Jun 5, 2018 3:07 pm

ReddRum wrote:How high of a draft pick do you guys think we could get if we sign and trade Jabari, and package Bledsoe and Henson as well? I am willing to include #17 as well but as a last resort. Having two 1st rounders would be huge!


FA is after the draft.
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Post#205 » by Badgerlander » Tue Jun 5, 2018 3:08 pm

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Badgerlander wrote:
msiris wrote:I just feel that he is just another guy who does not provide any form of spacing.


You’d draft him banking on him developing along a Jaylen Brown, Oladipo, Donovan Mitchell type curve. Following the model of the Celtics and putting 5 guys on the floor that can defend, pass, drive, or shoot. Not just a wing and some shooters like the Cavs
I you read the article he is not a defender nor a shooter. And the Cavs won anyways.

He is actually a very good defender and his shot form is fine. No he isn’t a shooter as in off the dribble necessarily but he has great tools. The Cavs won because LeBron but they aren’t beating the Warriors and I think the Celtics have the best shot at becoming a Warriors type team as their young guys get better.
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL 

Post#206 » by msiris » Tue Jun 5, 2018 3:16 pm

emunney wrote:
msiris wrote:
emunney wrote:
One of the things I like about him is that even though his skills are very basic, he does everything with purpose. So you can imagine if he can get a *basic* crossover and a *basic* in-and-out to go with that *basic* hesi and combine it with his electric first step, he's probably going to be getting into the paint quite a bit to use those big man skills.
I just feel that he is just another guy who does not provide any form of spacing.


He's got a nice easy shot. The caveat with all these guys is will they be dedicated enough, and will they put in the *right* work. That's unknown for everyone. I look at the bones of this guy's game though and I don't see any major problems that need to be corrected - he doesn't need to take any steps back to move forward. All I see is a strong, broad foundation to build on.

The only issue I have is his smallish hands.
Smith wasn’t able to consistently get to the rim off-the-bounce because teams would sag off his shot. I know that the draft is a crap shoot but thats one thing that bothered me the most about him. Do we need more guys like him?
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft pt 2 - NOW WITH A POLL 

Post#207 » by msiris » Tue Jun 5, 2018 3:22 pm

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msiris wrote:
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You’d draft him banking on him developing along a Jaylen Brown, Oladipo, Donovan Mitchell type curve. Following the model of the Celtics and putting 5 guys on the floor that can defend, pass, drive, or shoot. Not just a wing and some shooters like the Cavs
I you read the article he is not a defender nor a shooter. And the Cavs won anyways.

He is actually a very good defender and his shot form is fine. No he isn’t a shooter as in off the dribble necessarily but he has great tools. The Cavs won because LeBron but they aren’t beating the Warriors and I think the Celtics have the best shot at becoming a Warriors type team as their young guys get better.
No their best shot is if Irving and Heyward stay healthy
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Post#208 » by emunney » Tue Jun 5, 2018 3:29 pm

msiris wrote:
emunney wrote:
msiris wrote:I just feel that he is just another guy who does not provide any form of spacing.


He's got a nice easy shot. The caveat with all these guys is will they be dedicated enough, and will they put in the *right* work. That's unknown for everyone. I look at the bones of this guy's game though and I don't see any major problems that need to be corrected - he doesn't need to take any steps back to move forward. All I see is a strong, broad foundation to build on.

The only issue I have is his smallish hands.
Smith wasn’t able to consistently get to the rim off-the-bounce because teams would sag off his shot. I know that the draft is a crap shoot but thats one thing that bothered me the most about him. Do we need more guys like him?


No argument that we can need guys who can shoot (would argue that Smith has shown more signs that he can than that he can't, despite his hesitance), but the draft is about projection and securing talent, not about filling a specific, current need. There are more practical ways to fill needs and balance the roster.

Apart from that point, I don't think it's a Bucks-specific thing to need guards who can shoot. If you don't have them, you're behind the 8-ball. I wouldn't advocate picking a guard who I didn't think had that skill in his future. I'm not naive about the development that'll need to happen. I just think he's got a better starting point than most.
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Post#209 » by SupremeHustle » Tue Jun 5, 2018 3:44 pm

msiris wrote:Okobo or Huerter are two guys I like the most.


Same. But Musa is interesting, too.
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Post#210 » by Frank Nova » Tue Jun 5, 2018 4:23 pm

I dont think Zhaire Smith's jumper is even remotely close to fine. It needs a boatload of work. He will never become a consistent shooter with that slow ass release. He looks like Jake Shuttlesworth when he shoots. It's very ugly and that low volume decent efficiency won't look the same in the nba.

I like Smith a lot as a prospect overall but his shot is my red flag and it's a big one considering what this team needs.

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Post#211 » by Badgerlander » Tue Jun 5, 2018 4:25 pm

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Post#212 » by ReddRum » Tue Jun 5, 2018 4:30 pm

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ReddRum wrote:How high of a draft pick do you guys think we could get if we sign and trade Jabari, and package Bledsoe and Henson as well? I am willing to include #17 as well but as a last resort. Having two 1st rounders would be huge!


FA is after the draft.


**** - good point. Ok lets say #17, Bledsoe, and Henson then. What pick could that net us?
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Post#213 » by emunney » Tue Jun 5, 2018 4:43 pm

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ReddRum wrote:How high of a draft pick do you guys think we could get if we sign and trade Jabari, and package Bledsoe and Henson as well? I am willing to include #17 as well but as a last resort. Having two 1st rounders would be huge!


FA is after the draft.


**** - good point. Ok lets say #17, Bledsoe, and Henson then. What pick could that net us?


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Post#214 » by RiotPunch » Tue Jun 5, 2018 4:52 pm

I really hope we bring on Ben Sullivan. I'd love to see what he could do with some of these mediocre shooters like Smith, Melton, Hutchison, Vanderbilt, etc. If those guys get a reliable shot, they would be total steals.
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Post#215 » by jakecronus8 » Tue Jun 5, 2018 5:14 pm

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msiris wrote:Okobo or Huerter are two guys I like the most.


Same. But Musa is interesting, too.


I have Musa really high on my board. I see some Hedo in his game.
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Post#216 » by Prez » Tue Jun 5, 2018 5:36 pm

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Post#217 » by Gam » Tue Jun 5, 2018 5:44 pm

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Post#219 » by BuildingBucks » Tue Jun 5, 2018 6:07 pm

I'm not a Musa fan, he's a scorer but a very streaky one that takes awful shots. He looks impressive at times when those shots are falling but they don't fall nearly enough for me to want to draft him. He's 6'9 but very thin, don't view him as a good defender either. I wouldn't draft him.
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Post#220 » by StickeeFingaz » Tue Jun 5, 2018 6:20 pm

Listening to the latest Locked On Bucks and they were talking about the desire to pair an off the dribble three point shooting PG with Giannis.

This had me imagining a move up to grab Trae Young to pair with Giannis. I know some people are skeptical of Young but if he hits, he would be ideal with Giannis.





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