Mohamed Bamba

[JMac1]

This board hates Bamba, hahaha. The guy is a baller and you will all eat crow sooner or later. The thing that bothers me most is that the consensus has deemed him a defense only player while on the other side guys that are defensive sieves like Ayton and Bagley are given a benefit of a doubt that they will somehow learn to play defense. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Which is harder to learn? That’s why.

[Alatan]

This board hates Bamba, hahaha. The guy is a baller and you will all eat crow sooner or later. The thing that bothers me most is that the consensus has deemed him a defense only player while on the other side guys that are defensive sieves like Ayton and Bagley are given a benefit of a doubt that they will somehow learn to play defense. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Which is harder to learn? That’s why.

Defense actually. Besides Bamba has shown flashes of offensive skills while those others havent shown anything to make me think that they will figure defense out.

[JMac1]

This board hates Bamba, hahaha. The guy is a baller and you will all eat crow sooner or later. The thing that bothers me most is that the consensus has deemed him a defense only player while on the other side guys that are defensive sieves like Ayton and Bagley are given a benefit of a doubt that they will somehow learn to play defense. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Which is harder to learn? That’s why.

Defense actually. Besides Bamba has shown flashes of offensive skills while those others havent shown anything to make me think that they will figure defense out.

You never played sports, right?

[Alatan]

Which is harder to learn? That’s why.

Defense actually. Besides Bamba has shown flashes of offensive skills while those others havent shown anything to make me think that they will figure defense out.

You never played sports, right?

I could woop your ass in any sport you chose.

[JMac1]

Defense actually. Besides Bamba has shown flashes of offensive skills while those others havent shown anything to make me think that they will figure defense out.

You never played sports, right?

I could woop your ass in any sport you chose.

Lol!

[The-Power]

This board hates Bamba, hahaha.

You confuse skepticism with hate, perhaps because you're the emotional one here. I for one really like Bamba's personality and wish him nothing but success. But I wouldn't be even trying to be objective if I let that cloud my judgement of him as a player, which is that he has great potential but is very risky in the current NBA as well.

The thing that bothers me most is that the consensus has deemed him a defense only player while on the other side guys that are defensive sieves like Ayton and Bagley are given a benefit of a doubt that they will somehow learn to play defense. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Selective perception at its finest. Plenty of people call these guys out on their defensive issues, don't believe that they'll become good defenders all of a sudden, and rank them lower than the consensus outside this board. You're only seeing what you want to see, and that bias appears to really cloud your senses when it comes to Bamba.

[OGLife]

He has Greg Oden potential around the rim on offence and defence. However, those guys are not valued. It’s just unfortunate to be in the top of this year’s draft considering the value is in the big men. I’d trade out in hopes of landing a top 10 pick next year.

[Dr Aki]

Mo Bamba

[clyde21]

I'm very close to putting this guy as the #1 prospect overall. He's going to be THAT good. A lot of teams at the top of the draft are going to regret passing on him.

[clyde21]

This board hates Bamba, hahaha. The guy is a baller and you will all eat crow sooner or later. The thing that bothers me most is that the consensus has deemed him a defense only player while on the other side guys that are defensive sieves like Ayton and Bagley are given a benefit of a doubt that they will somehow learn to play defense. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Which is harder to learn? That’s why.

He's doesn't need to be Kareem offensively to make an impact, and if you compare him vs. a guy like Gobert at the same age, Bamba's infinitely more advanced offensively. Can knock down an open jumper, has 3pt range, hits his FTs and has a lot of potential as a roll man and lob finisher.

I don't see how he's not at least Capela offensively, who averaged 18ppg per 36 on 65 TS%. If he gets that + his defense, rim protection and rebounding...you have a possible MVP candidate.

[JMac1]

This board hates Bamba, hahaha. The guy is a baller and you will all eat crow sooner or later. The thing that bothers me most is that the consensus has deemed him a defense only player while on the other side guys that are defensive sieves like Ayton and Bagley are given a benefit of a doubt that they will somehow learn to play defense. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Which is harder to learn? That’s why.

He's doesn't need to be Kareem offensively to make an impact, and if you compare him vs. a guy like Gobert at the same age, Bamba's infinitely more advanced offensively. Can knock down an open jumper, has 3pt range, hits his FTs and has a lot of potential as a roll man and lob finisher.

I don't see how he's not at least Capela offensively, who averaged 18ppg per 36 on 65 TS%. If he gets that + his defense, rim protection and rebounding...you have a possible MVP candidate.

Again, my question was, what's easier to learn offense or defense? Capela is a perfect example. He has no offense whatsoever. He is strictly dependent on others for his points or put backs. Dude can't even make a free throw. Offensive liability that led to PJ Tucker playing Center.

Dude asked why Ayton and Bagley was rated higher. Offense always trump defense. Defensive specialist don't get drafted number one.

And bringing up Kareem to make a point, come on man. Be better than that.

[JMac1]

I'm very close to putting this guy as the #1 prospect overall. He's going to be THAT good. A lot of teams at the top of the draft are going to regret passing on him.

Nah. I disagree. Picking Bamba over Ayton would be stupid, thats why it ain't happening.

[clyde21]

Which is harder to learn? That’s why.

He's doesn't need to be Kareem offensively to make an impact, and if you compare him vs. a guy like Gobert at the same age, Bamba's infinitely more advanced offensively. Can knock down an open jumper, has 3pt range, hits his FTs and has a lot of potential as a roll man and lob finisher.

I don't see how he's not at least Capela offensively, who averaged 18ppg per 36 on 65 TS%. If he gets that + his defense, rim protection and rebounding...you have a possible MVP candidate.

Again, my question was, what's easier to learn offense or defense? Capela is a perfect example. He has no offense whatsoever. He is strictly dependent on others for his points or put backs. Dude can't even make a free throw. Offensive liability that led to PJ Tucker playing Center.

Dude asked why Ayton and Bagley was rated higher. Offense always trump defense. Defensive specialist don't get drafted number one.

And bringing up Kareem to make a point, come on man. Be better than that.

It's not hard to learn offense like being a roll man or hitting an open jumper. He's already good at that stuff, and isn't going to be asked to have a well-diversified post game and won't need to. That is my point.

[clyde21]

I'm very close to putting this guy as the #1 prospect overall. He's going to be THAT good. A lot of teams at the top of the draft are going to regret passing on him.

Nah. I disagree. Picking Bamba over Ayton would be stupid, thats why it ain't happening.

Well I have Ayton #1 right now anyways, but it's not a huge gap between them.

[JMac1]

He's doesn't need to be Kareem offensively to make an impact, and if you compare him vs. a guy like Gobert at the same age, Bamba's infinitely more advanced offensively. Can knock down an open jumper, has 3pt range, hits his FTs and has a lot of potential as a roll man and lob finisher.

I don't see how he's not at least Capela offensively, who averaged 18ppg per 36 on 65 TS%. If he gets that + his defense, rim protection and rebounding...you have a possible MVP candidate.

Again, my question was, what's easier to learn offense or defense? Capela is a perfect example. He has no offense whatsoever. He is strictly dependent on others for his points or put backs. Dude can't even make a free throw. Offensive liability that led to PJ Tucker playing Center.

Dude asked why Ayton and Bagley was rated higher. Offense always trump defense. Defensive specialist don't get drafted number one.

And bringing up Kareem to make a point, come on man. Be better than that.

It's not hard to learn offense like being a roll man or hitting an open jumper. He's already good at that stuff, and isn't going to be asked to have a well-diversified post game and won't need to. That is my point.

That's not offense produce by him, thus the stuff is unreliable, for example when CP3 sits down, he is useless. Please, be better than that man. Come on.

[JMac1]

I'm very close to putting this guy as the #1 prospect overall. He's going to be THAT good. A lot of teams at the top of the draft are going to regret passing on him.

Nah. I disagree. Picking Bamba over Ayton would be stupid, thats why it ain't happening.

Well I have Ayton #1 right now anyways, but it's not a huge gap between them.

potential wise no. Right now as a complete package yes. And its based on Bamba becoming a 3pt shooter and low post scorer and a elbow J guy. Rudy Gobert is not gonna change your franchise. If Rudy had offense, then he would. Thats Bamba's potential.

[clyde21]

Again, my question was, what's easier to learn offense or defense? Capela is a perfect example. He has no offense whatsoever. He is strictly dependent on others for his points or put backs. Dude can't even make a free throw. Offensive liability that led to PJ Tucker playing Center.

Dude asked why Ayton and Bagley was rated higher. Offense always trump defense. Defensive specialist don't get drafted number one.

And bringing up Kareem to make a point, come on man. Be better than that.

It's not hard to learn offense like being a roll man or hitting an open jumper. He's already good at that stuff, and isn't going to be asked to have a well-diversified post game and won't need to. That is my point.

That's not offense produce by him, thus the stuff is unreliable, for example when CP3 sits down, he is useless. Please, be better than that man. Come on.

The majority of bigs rely on guards to create for them, especially in today's NBA. Even Anthony Davis relied on Rondo/Holiday to create for him a lot of the time. That's not necessarily a knock on Bamba but bigs in majority. Even Ayton will need someone to create for him (we saw how easily he was taken out in the tourny when his guards struggled to get him in his spots).

[clyde21]

Nah. I disagree. Picking Bamba over Ayton would be stupid, thats why it ain't happening.

Well I have Ayton #1 right now anyways, but it's not a huge gap between them.

potential wise no. Right now as a complete package yes. And its based on Bamba becoming a 3pt shooter and low post scorer and a elbow J guy. Rudy Gobert is not gonna change your franchise. If Rudy had offense, then he would. Thats Bamba's potential.

Bamba is much more advanced offensively than Gobert at the same age. He's actually closer to Clint Capela on offense already with with more potential on his jumper.

[JMac1]

Well I have Ayton #1 right now anyways, but it's not a huge gap between them.

potential wise no. Right now as a complete package yes. And its based on Bamba becoming a 3pt shooter and low post scorer and a elbow J guy. Rudy Gobert is not gonna change your franchise. If Rudy had offense, then he would. Thats Bamba's potential.

Bamba is much more advanced offensively than Gobert at the same age. He's actually closer to Clint Capela on offense already with with more potential on his jumper.

You don't have to convince I am a fan. I still have Bags and Doncic ahead of him. Bamba is right there with Trae for me.

[JMac1]

It's not hard to learn offense like being a roll man or hitting an open jumper. He's already good at that stuff, and isn't going to be asked to have a well-diversified post game and won't need to. That is my point.

That's not offense produce by him, thus the stuff is unreliable, for example when CP3 sits down, he is useless. Please, be better than that man. Come on.

The majority of bigs rely on guards to create for them, especially in today's NBA. Even Anthony Davis relied on Rondo/Holiday to create for him a lot of the time. That's not necessarily a knock on Bamba but bigs in majority. Even Ayton will need someone to create for him (we saw how easily he was taken out in the tourny when his guards struggled to get him in his spots).

Of course, but the hope is Ayton will be able to convert FT's and create his own offense and punish the midgets masquerading as centers. Most of the Centers cant do that today so they are easier to guard.