Official Caris LeVert Thread

[MrDollarBills]

dude i hate to do the moderators job, but if you want to continue the intellectual dishonesty with trying to blame D'Angelo Russell for Caris LeVert's short comings take it over to the D'Angelo Russell thread where a full blown discussion can be held. This is honestly ludicrous. Caris LeVert is young but he's responsible for his own production and mistakes. he's also older than Russell.

[IcyVeins]

Levert isn't exactly young.

He's 24 when the season begins..... That's not consider young in basketball age at all...

[MrDollarBills]

24 isn't old in basketball age. Old in basketball age is like 27-32, which is basically the prime years of a player's career.

[IcyVeins]

24 isn't young for a nba player....

Kids come into the league at age 19.. 24 might be young for the NFL, but I say 24-26 doesn't qualify you as "young" anymore. Also, prime is definitely not 27-32.... Maybe the star players, but not the average and most players in the league, especially someone like Levert that's game has a ton built on athleticism.

Prime/peak for most players are probably around 24-27/28 in the nba....

[TheNetsFan]

24 isn't young for a nba player....

Kids come into the league at age 19.. 24 might be young for the NFL, but I say 24-26 doesn't qualify you as "young" anymore. Also, prime is definitely not 27-32.... Maybe the star players, but not the average and most players in the league, especially someone like Levert that's game has a ton built on athleticism.

Prime/peak for most players are probably around 24-27/28 in the nba....

Prime is 26-31 for most, with the apex being 28-31. After that, it's all dependent on how great your conditioning is.

[IcyVeins]

24 isn't young for a nba player....

Kids come into the league at age 19.. 24 might be young for the NFL, but I say 24-26 doesn't qualify you as "young" anymore. Also, prime is definitely not 27-32.... Maybe the star players, but not the average and most players in the league, especially someone like Levert that's game has a ton built on athleticism.

Prime/peak for most players are probably around 24-27/28 in the nba....

Prime is 26-31 for most, with the apex being 28-31. After that, it's all dependent on how great your conditioning is.

Not really. Look at the nets.

Lin
Carroll
Mozgov

You really think these guys are at their peaks and they didn't decline years ago..

Very few players in the league are in their peak after 28-29

[TheNetsFan]

24 isn't young for a nba player....

Kids come into the league at age 19.. 24 might be young for the NFL, but I say 24-26 doesn't qualify you as "young" anymore. Also, prime is definitely not 27-32.... Maybe the star players, but not the average and most players in the league, especially someone like Levert that's game has a ton built on athleticism.

Prime/peak for most players are probably around 24-27/28 in the nba....

Prime is 26-31 for most, with the apex being 28-31. After that, it's all dependent on how great your conditioning is.

Not really. Look at the nets.

Lin
Carroll
Mozgov

You really think these guys are at their peaks and they didn't decline years ago..

Very few players in the league are in their peak after 28-29

Peak Carroll was 28, he got hit by injury & bad system fit at 29 & 30. At 31 in a better system fit, he looks awfully close to peak Carroll.

The evolution of basketball rendered Mozgov & lumbering centers like him obsolete. If you believe he had a peak, it would've been right before he signed his huge offer from LA, i.e. age 29.

Peak Lin was his year in Charlotte, age 27. He then got bit by the injury bug for 2 straight years. His peak is done, but given that PGs typically age more gracefully than other positions, he's the injury exception rather than the rule.

[IcyVeins]

Prime is 26-31 for most, with the apex being 28-31. After that, it's all dependent on how great your conditioning is.

Not really. Look at the nets.

Lin
Carroll
Mozgov

You really think these guys are at their peaks and they didn't decline years ago..

Very few players in the league are in their peak after 28-29

Peak Carroll was 28, he got hit by injury & bad system fit at 29 & 30. At 31 in a better system fit, he looks awfully close to peak Carroll.

The evolution of basketball rendered Mozgov & lumbering centers like him obsolete. If you believe he had a peak, it would've been right before he signed his huge offer from LA, i.e. age 29.

Peak Lin was his year in Charlotte, age 27. He then got bit by the injury bug for 2 straight years. His peak is done, but given that PGs typically age more gracefully than other positions, he's the injury exception rather than the rule.

Carroll was not good this season. He only looked decent because he hustle hard....On the hawks, dude was actually decent or it could of been the system that made him look decent. On the raptors he was terrible. DUde can't play SF effectively and is more of a 4 now.

Mozgov peaked before he went to the lakers. Dude got benched for TT.

Lin's peak was during linsanity. Dude never got anywhere near that form again... COuld be a fluke, but I think of it more as being the focal point of the offense similar to Spencer and having great physical gifts....


Also, as you said the game is changing. THE NBA is a young mans game now, with all the running they do and the uptempto they play. Maybe, back than it was 26-31, definitely not now in todays NBA.

[shakendfries]

this dude literally just comes to this board to argue

[MrDollarBills]

Not really. Look at the nets.

Lin
Carroll
Mozgov

You really think these guys are at their peaks and they didn't decline years ago..

Very few players in the league are in their peak after 28-29

Peak Carroll was 28, he got hit by injury & bad system fit at 29 & 30. At 31 in a better system fit, he looks awfully close to peak Carroll.

The evolution of basketball rendered Mozgov & lumbering centers like him obsolete. If you believe he had a peak, it would've been right before he signed his huge offer from LA, i.e. age 29.

Peak Lin was his year in Charlotte, age 27. He then got bit by the injury bug for 2 straight years. His peak is done, but given that PGs typically age more gracefully than other positions, he's the injury exception rather than the rule.

Carroll was not good this season. He only looked decent because he hustle hard....On the hawks, dude was actually decent or it could of been the system that made him look decent. On the raptors he was terrible. DUde can't play SF effectively and is more of a 4 now.

Mozgov peaked before he went to the lakers. Dude got benched for TT.

Lin's peak was during linsanity. Dude never got anywhere near that form again... COuld be a fluke, but I think of it more as being the focal point of the offense similar to Spencer and having great physical gifts....


Also, as you said the game is changing. THE NBA is a young mans game now, with all the running they do and the uptempto they play. Maybe, back than it was 26-31, definitely not now in todays NBA.

Carroll wasn't good this season? Next to Hollis-Jefferson, Carroll was one of the most consistent performers on the team.

[MrDollarBills]

24 isn't young for a nba player....

Kids come into the league at age 19.. 24 might be young for the NFL, but I say 24-26 doesn't qualify you as "young" anymore. Also, prime is definitely not 27-32.... Maybe the star players, but not the average and most players in the league, especially someone like Levert that's game has a ton built on athleticism.

Prime/peak for most players are probably around 24-27/28 in the nba....

LeVert's game is built on a ton of athleticism? He's not an above the rim player in the slightest...dude, seriously do you even watch this team play? Carroll wasn't good this season? LeVert's game being reliant upon athleticism? You admitted on the Suns board that you're not a Nets fan, so I'm serious doubting that you even watch this team closely.

Also, 24 is not even remotely old for an NBA player. Not young, but definitely not even near peaking.

[MrDollarBills]

this dude literally just comes to this board to argue

yeah, and I seriously think he hasn't even watched any of the games this past season. Look at his comments about Carroll and LeVert. An informed Nets fan wouldn't come away from this season saying either of those things.

@ Caris LeVert being some kind of sick athlete. Jesus christ

[Claud]

this dude literally just comes to this board to argue

yeah, and I seriously think he hasn't even watched any of the games this past season. Look at his comments about Carroll and LeVert. An informed Nets fan wouldn't come away from this season saying either of those things.

@ Caris LeVert being some kind of sick athlete. Jesus christ

I thought he was Suns fan trolling our board?

[kamaze]

Prime is 26-31 for most, with the apex being 28-31. After that, it's all dependent on how great your conditioning is.

Not really. Look at the nets.

Lin
Carroll
Mozgov

You really think these guys are at their peaks and they didn't decline years ago..

Very few players in the league are in their peak after 28-29

Peak Carroll was 28, he got hit by injury & bad system fit at 29 & 30. At 31 in a better system fit, he looks awfully close to peak Carroll.

The evolution of basketball rendered Mozgov & lumbering centers like him obsolete. If you believe he had a peak, it would've been right before he signed his huge offer from LA, i.e. age 29.

Peak Lin was his year in Charlotte, age 27. He then got bit by the injury bug for 2 straight years. His peak is done, but given that PGs typically age more gracefully than other positions, he's the injury exception rather than the rule.

Agreed on Lin and Mozgov but this past year was Demarre's best. Statistically he said he hadn't felt as good in years Brooklyn has a great performance staff.

[IcyVeins]

24 isn't young for a nba player....

Kids come into the league at age 19.. 24 might be young for the NFL, but I say 24-26 doesn't qualify you as "young" anymore. Also, prime is definitely not 27-32.... Maybe the star players, but not the average and most players in the league, especially someone like Levert that's game has a ton built on athleticism.

Prime/peak for most players are probably around 24-27/28 in the nba....

LeVert's game is built on a ton of athleticism? He's not an above the rim player in the slightest...dude, seriously do you even watch this team play? Carroll wasn't good this season? LeVert's game being reliant upon athleticism? You admitted on the Suns board that you're not a Nets fan, so I'm serious doubting that you even watch this team closely.

Also, 24 is not even remotely old for an NBA player. Not young, but definitely not even near peaking.

Problem is reading comprehension is not your forte.

Notice I never said old. I said, 24 is not young... Unless, there is nothing between old and young.....

Also, Levert is athletic. Most of his plays from the playmaker position is because he is a good athlete and has great physical measurables. Notice how average he looks when playing 2 guard or the SF position vs the one....(Huge difference).

Good thing your a fan of the NJ NETS.

Also, I watched most of the games this season or at least 66 percent of it since I have YES ...SO...

[MrDollarBills]

24 isn't young for a nba player....

Kids come into the league at age 19.. 24 might be young for the NFL, but I say 24-26 doesn't qualify you as "young" anymore. Also, prime is definitely not 27-32.... Maybe the star players, but not the average and most players in the league, especially someone like Levert that's game has a ton built on athleticism.

Prime/peak for most players are probably around 24-27/28 in the nba....

LeVert's game is built on a ton of athleticism? He's not an above the rim player in the slightest...dude, seriously do you even watch this team play? Carroll wasn't good this season? LeVert's game being reliant upon athleticism? You admitted on the Suns board that you're not a Nets fan, so I'm serious doubting that you even watch this team closely.

Also, 24 is not even remotely old for an NBA player. Not young, but definitely not even near peaking.

Problem is reading comprehension is not your forte.

Notice I never said old. I said, 24 is not young... Unless, there is nothing between old and young.....

Also, Levert is athletic. Most of his plays from the playmaker position is because he is a good athlete and has great physical measurables. Notice how average he looks when playing 2 guard or the SF position vs the one....(Huge difference).

Good thing your a fan of the NJ NETS.

Also, I watched most of the games this season or at least 66 percent of it since I have YES ...SO...

LeVert was doing the same things that he's doing now last year when he was playing the wing, troll. it's just that now his usage is up because he plays PG and is focused on running the offense. this kid was literally making the same plays this year that he was last year on a limited basis because he has a high basketball IQ. please stop pretending that you even have remotely 1/10th of a clue about how this team operates, troll. LeVert is a good player, but to say that his game is dependent on his athleticism is laughable. he's not an above the rim player. if he was, mixed with his skill set, he'd be on Tracy McGrady/Anfernee Hardaway's level. He's not. stop embarrassing yourself with these hot takes.

also, the fact that you have continually tried to distinguish me as a fan of the NJ Nets as opposed to the Brooklyn Nets proves that you're a fraud and a troll. All New Jersey Nets fans = Brooklyn Nets fans. in fact, NJ Nets fans are more loyal and the realest fans of the Brooklyn Nets. but keep going. you're going to get your ass handed to you sooner than later and it won't be from me. troll.

[IcyVeins]

Peak Carroll was 28, he got hit by injury & bad system fit at 29 & 30. At 31 in a better system fit, he looks awfully close to peak Carroll.

The evolution of basketball rendered Mozgov & lumbering centers like him obsolete. If you believe he had a peak, it would've been right before he signed his huge offer from LA, i.e. age 29.

Peak Lin was his year in Charlotte, age 27. He then got bit by the injury bug for 2 straight years. His peak is done, but given that PGs typically age more gracefully than other positions, he's the injury exception rather than the rule.

Carroll was not good this season. He only looked decent because he hustle hard....On the hawks, dude was actually decent or it could of been the system that made him look decent. On the raptors he was terrible. DUde can't play SF effectively and is more of a 4 now.

Mozgov peaked before he went to the lakers. Dude got benched for TT.

Lin's peak was during linsanity. Dude never got anywhere near that form again... COuld be a fluke, but I think of it more as being the focal point of the offense similar to Spencer and having great physical gifts....


Also, as you said the game is changing. THE NBA is a young mans game now, with all the running they do and the uptempto they play. Maybe, back than it was 26-31, definitely not now in todays NBA.

Carroll wasn't good this season? Next to Hollis-Jefferson, Carroll was one of the most consistent performers on the team.

It's funny how people have short term memory...

When was he one of the most consistent players on the nets...

Only consistent players were Harris and RHJ before his injury.....

This dude was chucking 3s all season long (half of his shots were 3 pointers) and played average defense..

It's funny, dudes were complaining about his play all season long and now he's one of the most consistent players on the team last season.

Carroll is what he is. An average player that relies on workrate. On a team like the Nets, where the center doesn't rebound well (because of his body) and your PF is the same size as your SG, getting boards might be inflated..(In addition to Kenny's love for smallball)

Carroll would be irrelevant on any contender team just like he proved in Toronto, while they replaced him with a teenager that did tons better than he ever did and defended Lebron 1000x better.

And yet people actually think he would fetch a first round pick....

[MrDollarBills]

this dude literally just comes to this board to argue

yeah, and I seriously think he hasn't even watched any of the games this past season. Look at his comments about Carroll and LeVert. An informed Nets fan wouldn't come away from this season saying either of those things.

@ Caris LeVert being some kind of sick athlete. Jesus christ

I thought he was Suns fan trolling our board?

i think he's a trolling Jeremy Lin fan to be honest based on his comments, possibly even one of the ass holes who stan for Lin that got banned off of here for being dickheads last year. also, all of his assessments sound like the talk of a person who checked out on the team the day Lin went down and he looks at basketball reference stats and then forms an opinion. how in the **** could any person watch the Nets and says that Carroll was bad this season or that Caris LeVert relies solely on athleticism? LeVert's hands barely reach over the rim when he dunks for god's sake.

[IcyVeins]

LeVert's game is built on a ton of athleticism? He's not an above the rim player in the slightest...dude, seriously do you even watch this team play? Carroll wasn't good this season? LeVert's game being reliant upon athleticism? You admitted on the Suns board that you're not a Nets fan, so I'm serious doubting that you even watch this team closely.

Also, 24 is not even remotely old for an NBA player. Not young, but definitely not even near peaking.

Problem is reading comprehension is not your forte.

Notice I never said old. I said, 24 is not young... Unless, there is nothing between old and young.....

Also, Levert is athletic. Most of his plays from the playmaker position is because he is a good athlete and has great physical measurables. Notice how average he looks when playing 2 guard or the SF position vs the one....(Huge difference).

Good thing your a fan of the NJ NETS.

Also, I watched most of the games this season or at least 66 percent of it since I have YES ...SO...

LeVert was doing the same things that he's doing now last year when he was playing the wing, troll. it's just that now his usage is up because he plays PG and is focused on running the offense. this kid was literally making the same plays this year that he was last year on a limited basis because he has a high basketball IQ. please stop pretending that you even have remotely 1/10th of a clue about how this team operates, troll. LeVert is a good player, but to say that his game is dependent on his athleticism is laughable. he's not an above the rim player. if he was, mixed with his skill set, he'd be on Tracy McGrady/Anfernee Hardaway's level. He's not. stop embarrassing yourself with these hot takes.

also, the fact that you have continually tried to distinguish me as a fan of the NJ Nets as opposed to the Brooklyn Nets proves that you're a fraud and a troll. All New Jersey Nets fans = Brooklyn Nets fans. in fact, NJ Nets fans are more loyal and the realest fans of the Brooklyn Nets. but keep going. you're going to get your ass handed to you sooner than later and it won't be from me. troll.

Actually, he wasn't...

He was constructing buildings when he was playing at the 2/3, at the one he was a lot better because he became sole playmaker..
It literally is night and day with Caris at the 1 vs the 2/3, hence why I always said caris is in the same battle with Spencer and DLO role wise....

IF Caris had high bball iq, he would know how to play in different speeds... Not gamble on passing lanes all the time.

That's the nonsense that Lin got that because he was a harvard asian kid, he had high bball iq, when in reality lin was a gunner relying on insane speed.

FOr a 1, Caris is athletic and has topend physical measurables.

[IcyVeins]

yeah, and I seriously think he hasn't even watched any of the games this past season. Look at his comments about Carroll and LeVert. An informed Nets fan wouldn't come away from this season saying either of those things.

@ Caris LeVert being some kind of sick athlete. Jesus christ

I thought he was Suns fan trolling our board?

i think he's a trolling Jeremy Lin fan to be honest based on his comments, possibly even one of the ass holes who stan for Lin that got banned off of here for being dickheads last year. also, all of his assessments sound like the talk of a person who checked out on the team the day Lin went down and he looks at basketball reference stats and then forms an opinion. how in the **** could any person watch the Nets and says that Carroll was bad this season or that Caris LeVert relies solely on athleticism? LeVert's hands barely reach over the rim when he dunks for god's sake.

This dude is funny.

Went from Suns fan, to Booker fan, to Lin fan....(BTW, if I WAS a lin fan I would be taking every moment to bash DLO since he is his direct competition and only competition)

Also athleticism isn't only jumping. Reading not your forte.