How Much Do You Appreciate KD Now on the Warriors

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Re: How Much Do You Appreciate KD Now on the Warriors 

Post#21 » by Danny1616 » Fri Jun 8, 2018 12:58 pm

Tim Reynolds wrote:I'm realistic enough to accept that if we still had Harrison Barnes, we are not likely to be winning a third championship. We may not of even won last year.

So yes, I appreciate him and what he brings to my team immensely.


Well Harrison Barnes in my opinion was the prime reason your team lost in 2016.

I remember him missing countless of wide open 3s in that NBA finals.
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Post#22 » by NatiboyB » Fri Jun 8, 2018 12:59 pm

The dude has ruined the competitive balance of the league.
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Post#23 » by HelloFriends » Fri Jun 8, 2018 1:18 pm

Tim Reynolds wrote:I'm realistic enough to accept that if we still had Harrison Barnes, we are not likely to be winning a third championship. We may not of even won last year.

So yes, I appreciate him and what he brings to my team immensely.



How long will GS fans keep pushing this narrative?

GS didnt need KD to get over any hump. They were literally 1 play away from being back 2 back championship. 1 draymond tech away. 1 silly Curry behind the back pass away. 1 shot away. or 1 lucky bounce. And that was due to some huge effort by Cavs to come back, which frankly GS allowed because GS got sloppy.

It wasn't that Cavs were so much better than GS that they needed another MVP/ top 3 type player to "catch up". Stop making excuses so you can believe that KD going to GS is not a weak beta move. Even KD on his burner accounts think its a beta move that needs to be defended at every corner.
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Re: How Much Do You Appreciate KD Now on the Warriors 

Post#24 » by robbie84 » Fri Jun 8, 2018 1:32 pm

Much less than when he was at OKC.
Dude's got the easiest job in the world now with the talent around him.

He's also ruined the flow of their beautiful offense.

As far as MVP caliber players with nba championships go, his feel like the 2 least earned in history.
He just hopped on the GSW bus. Quit on any challenge. Could have created his own legacy but has now tarnished both his own and Steph/Klay's.

What exactly has this guy done to earn two championships?
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Post#25 » by Johnlac1 » Fri Jun 8, 2018 1:42 pm

If all the GS and Durant fanboys want to claim this is some sort of major achievement, go right ahead.
The fact remains he joined a team that had just won one title and barely lost another.
This situation of a player of his caliber doing what he did has never happened before.
It would have been something like Bird or Jordan joining the Showtime Lakers. But they didn't.
It's his perfect right as a person to do what he thinks best for himself. Nobody is arguing that.
But he joined a super team with the players in their primes and poised to win more titles.
He hurt the league's competitiveness.
I'll never give him credit. He doesn't deserve it.
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Post#26 » by guille_4 » Fri Jun 8, 2018 2:09 pm

Johnlac1 wrote:If all the GS and Durant fanboys want to claim this is some sort of major achievement, go right ahead.
The fact remains he joined a team that had just won one title and barely lost another.
This situation of a player of his caliber doing what he did has never happened before.
It would have been something like Bird or Jordan joining the Showtime Lakers. But they didn't.
It's his perfect right as a person to do what he thinks best for himself. Nobody is arguing that.
But he joined a super team with the players in their primes and poised to win more titles.
He hurt the league's competitiveness.
I'll never give him credit. He doesn't deserve it.


Lebron James and Chris Bosh joining Miami, a team with a top-5 player who had won 47 games the year before is comparable, since that was two former 1st options in their prime joining an already solid team and taking a pay cut to play together.

I honestly don't think GSW would had won last year's finals with Harrison Barnes instead of Durant and this year against Houston. KD has been GSW's most consistent player through both play-offs.
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Re: How Much Do You Appreciate KD Now on the Warriors 

Post#27 » by pwrshft99 » Fri Jun 8, 2018 2:10 pm

Appreciate KD ?? No, hell no.

This was the one guy that had a chance to neutralize both LBJ and the GSW juggernaut. Had he stayed in OKC or went to Boston maybe... The last two seasons play out very differently. Joining an already all time great team and now acting like he has earned his way to the promise land? Nah, i cant appreciate the path of least resistance.
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Post#28 » by OakleyDokely » Fri Jun 8, 2018 2:22 pm

We will never know how truly great he is. He's surrounded by 3 other potential hall of famers. It's a lot easier to dominate in that situation. Defenses can't focus as much energy on you when Curry/Thompson/Green are all hanging by the 3 point line.
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Post#29 » by r0drig0lac » Fri Jun 8, 2018 2:26 pm

0, he is the most non-competitive person in sports history imo.
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Post#30 » by inquisitive » Fri Jun 8, 2018 2:33 pm

Warriors fans appreciate him for sure. If he hadn't joined 2 yrs ago, there would be no repeat.
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Post#31 » by koningcosmo » Fri Jun 8, 2018 2:36 pm

always been a Durant fan just hate to see him on the warriors. I was praying that OKC would win that 3-1 lead againt GSW in 2016, i really wanted to see durant take on Lebron but not this way. especially with the cavs falling appart with every year passing.
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Re: How Much Do You Appreciate KD Now on the Warriors 

Post#32 » by richo65 » Fri Jun 8, 2018 2:37 pm

HelloFriends wrote:
Tim Reynolds wrote:I'm realistic enough to accept that if we still had Harrison Barnes, we are not likely to be winning a third championship. We may not of even won last year.

So yes, I appreciate him and what he brings to my team immensely.



How long will GS fans keep pushing this narrative?

GS didnt need KD to get over any hump. They were literally 1 play away from being back 2 back championship. 1 draymond tech away. 1 silly Curry behind the back pass away. 1 shot away. or 1 lucky bounce. And that was due to some huge effort by Cavs to come back, which frankly GS allowed because GS got sloppy.

It wasn't that Cavs were so much better than GS that they needed another MVP/ top 3 type player to "catch up". Stop making excuses so you can believe that KD going to GS is not a weak beta move. Even KD on his burner accounts think its a beta move that needs to be defended at every corner.


I am a Warriors fan but I agree with this analysis. It would have been interesting if he had gone to Boston instead. I completely understand not wanting to stay in Oklahoma City though. First, you have to play with Russell Westbrook who is the biggest ball hog since Kobe Bryant. Second, I'm sorry it's Oklahoma City - not exactly a diverse cultural mecca. The Bay Area attracted Durant as much as the Warriors did. Life does go beyond basketball.
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Re: How Much Do You Appreciate KD Now on the Warriors 

Post#33 » by michaelm » Fri Jun 8, 2018 2:41 pm

richo65 wrote:
HelloFriends wrote:
Tim Reynolds wrote:I'm realistic enough to accept that if we still had Harrison Barnes, we are not likely to be winning a third championship. We may not of even won last year.

So yes, I appreciate him and what he brings to my team immensely.



How long will GS fans keep pushing this narrative?

GS didnt need KD to get over any hump. They were literally 1 play away from being back 2 back championship. 1 draymond tech away. 1 silly Curry behind the back pass away. 1 shot away. or 1 lucky bounce. And that was due to some huge effort by Cavs to come back, which frankly GS allowed because GS got sloppy.

It wasn't that Cavs were so much better than GS that they needed another MVP/ top 3 type player to "catch up". Stop making excuses so you can believe that KD going to GS is not a weak beta move. Even KD on his burner accounts think its a beta move that needs to be defended at every corner.


I am a Warriors fan but I agree with this analysis. It would have been interesting if he had gone to Boston instead. I completely understand not wanting to stay in Oklahoma City though. First, you have to play with Russell Westbrook who is the biggest ball hog since Kobe Bryant. Second, I'm sorry it's Oklahoma City - not exactly a diverse cultural mecca. The Bay Area attracted Durant as much as the Warriors did. Life does go beyond basketball.

Maybe he didn't want to live in Boston either. You only get one life, how long are you obliged to be somewhere you don't want to be however much you are paid?.
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Re: How Much Do You Appreciate KD Now on the Warriors 

Post#34 » by 1993Playoffs » Fri Jun 8, 2018 2:45 pm

I used to like him , and don't care that that he left okc.

Its the fact that he blew 3-1 lead to the Warriors and then joined them. Its weak as hell for a player of his caliber.
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Re: How Much Do You Appreciate KD Now on the Warriors 

Post#35 » by CS707 » Fri Jun 8, 2018 2:49 pm

xchange55 wrote:
Tim Reynolds wrote:I'm realistic enough to accept that if we still had Harrison Barnes, we are not likely to be winning a third championship. We may not of even won last year.

So yes, I appreciate him and what he brings to my team immensely.


Why do you say this? GSW dominated with Barnes (without KD). I don't see any reason to believe they still wouldn't be a top team assuming the same core was still intact.


Top, but flawed similar to this year's Rockets team. They lacked the dimension of being able to manufacture offense when Cleveland was able to shut down Curry and Thompson. The Dubs might not have needed a KD level isolation scorer but they needed something more than Harrison Barnes. The fact that KD was available to fill that role was just fortuitous circumstance.
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Post#36 » by DusterBuster » Fri Jun 8, 2018 2:50 pm

Not sure appreciate is the word I'd use
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Post#37 » by hawkguy » Fri Jun 8, 2018 2:51 pm

To join a team that beat you 3-1 lead, not so appreciated.
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Post#38 » by michaelm » Fri Jun 8, 2018 2:59 pm

Hayesy wrote:I appreciate that KD joined the best team and they are still the best team. It would have been more interesting to see him develop that thunder team into a championship team of it's own instead of hitching onto an already established dominant team but what can you do.

He spent 9 years trying to make OKC into a championship team, got beaten by LeBron's Superteam in a finals series while sticking solid with them when they were a home grown team, OKC didn't retain Harden or change their coaching or game planning after that title loss, and he had a career threatening injury at OKC from which he was brought back too early.

It is quite understandable OKC fans are upset, but OKC imo should have done more with him while they had him. Others may have wanted him to be as a dominant as possible as an individual player in the LeBron vein which is a reasonable ambition to have for him, but it is his life and he is entitled to his own ambitions, again imo. Disinterested fans of the NBA who value parity above all else definitely have a case, although I wonder how many there truly are interested only in a pure even competition and would be upset by their own team being dominant, particularly if fans of teams as lowly as GSW had been for several decades.

What I don't accept is that Lebron fans have any cause for complaint, and they seem to make up a significant percentage of those complaining.
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Post#39 » by HurricaneKid » Fri Jun 8, 2018 3:01 pm

INKtastic wrote:And it's hard to appreciate Durant when he's playing on a team where he has to get single covered and he wrecked what would have been an epic rivalry by joining the side that already had the most talent in the league.


We aren't angry with KD because he is a bum. We are angry with KD because he is one of the best players in the NBA and he literally broke the league.

Ink is exactly right here. If you have been watching the Finals post G1 the Warriors have been doubling LeBron every time he gets to the lane (with the DPoY). Often earlier. He has gotten his teammates open looks but they have largely not made the Warriors pay for fundamentally setting their D to allow others open looks but not to allow LeBron to singlehandedly beat them.

After G2 when Steph destroyed the Cavs, Cleveland treated him similarly. They trapped the PnRs they couldn't hedge (most of them) which led to Dray having the ball on a 4-on-3. Defenders wouldn't leave Klay and KD so the Cavs were literally giving GSW a 2-on-1 every time they wanted it. When Dray, Looney, and even Iggy couldn't beat that very well (McGee sure did though) they went to KD on the worst Cav defender.

So it wasn't nearly the "best offensive performance" because he was literally a secondary priority to the Cavs. He never saw a double. He picked on slow and small defenders without concern over help defenders or double teams. He was literally playing in the wake of other great players. So yeah, as a role playing secondary option he is pretty much the best ever. Which again, is why we were all so mad when he went there.
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Re: How Much Do You Appreciate KD Now on the Warriors 

Post#40 » by BigShaq34 » Fri Jun 8, 2018 3:03 pm

BombsquadSammy wrote:I don't like him or what he did, but I was awestruck by that G3 performance. However one feels about him, his greatness as a baller can't be denied.

it can't be denied, but keep in mind you're forced to cover KD 1 on 1 because those other sharpshooters will kill you if you double.

KD used to get doubled a lot in OKC and now he has the luxury of not worrying about being swarmed meanwhile lebron has 3 or 4 defenders waiting for him when he attacks the rim.

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