'17-'18 POY discussion

Peregrine01 · Post #4641 » by **Peregrine01** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 2:21 am

I've been a big critic of KD's awareness and tunnel vision issues. But he has really changed his game around in just a matter of a few games. Very impressive stuff and if he keeps playing like this and avoids falling back to bad habits, I can't see anyone beating the Dubs for years to come.

euroleague · Post #4642 » by **euroleague** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 2:28 am

James Harden made a new blueprint for offenses. Has to be him

ronnymac2 · Post #4643 » by **ronnymac2** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 3:25 am

Peregrine01 wrote:I've been a big critic of KD's awareness and tunnel vision issues. But he has really changed his game around in just a matter of a few games. Very impressive stuff and if he keeps playing like this and avoids falling back to bad habits, I can't see anyone beating the Dubs for years to come.

I am extremely proud of him as well. After approximately 175 games, he finally realized he's got the two greatest 3-point shooters in NBA history on his team.

Statlanta · Post #4644 » by **Statlanta** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 3:34 am

My vote(if I had one) would be James Harden followed closely be LeBron and KD

Peregrine01 · Post #4645 » by **Peregrine01** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 3:36 am

ronnymac2 wrote:
Peregrine01 wrote:I've been a big critic of KD's awareness and tunnel vision issues. But he has really changed his game around in just a matter of a few games. Very impressive stuff and if he keeps playing like this and avoids falling back to bad habits, I can't see anyone beating the Dubs for years to come.

I am extremely proud of him as well. After approximately 175 games, he finally realized he's got the two greatest 3-point shooters in NBA history on his team.

Touché. What I meant was superstars often get in their own way and are unwilling to adjust. KD being able to do that says something about himself. If he played like this in the Houston series, Dubs would’ve won fairly easily imo.

NinjaSheppard · Post #4646 » by **NinjaSheppard** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 3:37 am

1. James Harden
2. LeBron James
3. Kevin Durant
4. Anthony Davis
5. Greek Freak

6/7: Curry/Paul (too many games
8. Oladipo

Probably re-think it before the vote.

eminence · Post #4647 » by **eminence** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 3:40 am

C'mon give me that surprise Draymond FMVP (pls)

Senior · Post #4648 » by **Senior** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 3:41 am

ronnymac2 wrote:
Peregrine01 wrote:I've been a big critic of KD's awareness and tunnel vision issues. But he has really changed his game around in just a matter of a few games. Very impressive stuff and if he keeps playing like this and avoids falling back to bad habits, I can't see anyone beating the Dubs for years to come.

I am extremely proud of him as well. After approximately 175 games, he finally realized he's got the two greatest 3-point shooters in NBA history on his team.

but his isolation scoring and shooting!!!

Post #4649 » by **Doctor MJ** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 3:45 am

euroleague wrote:James Harden made a new blueprint for offenses. Has to be him

Care to expound?

Joey Wheeler · Post #4650 » by **Joey Wheeler** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:00 am

Going to be hard to rank Durant here. He coasted most of the season, but he was insanely good in games 2-4 in the Finals, perfect basketball. Think he was better and an even clearer FMVP than last year. Could see a case for him as high as #2 (behind Lebron of course). but also as low as #5. Depends on how high a valuation is given to the two biggest series of the season compared to the other ~100 matches.

Ballerhogger · Post #4651 » by **Ballerhogger** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:07 am

Top 3
Lebron
Kevin Durant
Harden

pelifan · Post #4652 » by **pelifan** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:10 am

Being good in the finals means nothing. That was a bad EC champ, playing a team with significantly more talent let's move on.

1 James Harden
2 Lebron James
3 Anthony Davis
4 Giannis
5 Rudy Gobert

anything above 5 for KD is a absolute joke. He missed games, almost cost his team the WCF, and the team looked way worse in the regular season without Curry. Judging him based on 3 good games against one of the leagues worst defenses is a hottake. He almost cost his team game 1 of the finals as well.

GSP · Post #4653 » by **GSP** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:12 am

Wheres that Steph fan that kept posting Stephs on/off numbers in the playoffs?

Kd was leading the team before tonight with +8.2 and was game high +30 today in a 23pt win

therealbig3 · Post #4654 » by **therealbig3** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:13 am

Durant makes my top 5. Firmly believe now more than ever, that GS's improved PS offense the last 2 years is primarily because of him. That's not to say he's their MVP (still think that's Curry), but KD is what makes them impossible to defend, and I don't think Oladipo guarantees that same thing in his position, while I think Durant could do similar things to Oladipo in Indiana.

1. LeBron
2. Harden
3. Davis
4. Giannis
5. Durant

GSP · Post #4655 » by **GSP** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:14 am

pelifan wrote:Being good in the finals means nothing. That was a bad EC champ, playing a team with significantly more talent let's move on.

1 James Harden
2 Lebron James
3 Anthony Davis
4 Giannis
5 Rudy Gobert

anything above 5 for KD is a absolute joke. He missed games, almost cost his team the WCF, and the team looked way worse in the regular season without Curry. Judging him based on 3 good games against one of the leagues worst defenses is a hottake. He almost cost his team game 1 of the finals as well.

Using the games they played without Steph the 2nd time he got hurt is disingenuous at best. They were locked to the 2 seed, couldnt get past Houston and couldnt drop. They had no incentive and were clearly packing it in for the playoffs

we saw them go 5-1 in actually serious basketball games playing great O and D

Rudy Gobert over Kevin Durant is just :lol:

Joey Wheeler · Post #4656 » by **Joey Wheeler** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:17 am

pelifan wrote:Being good in the finals means nothing. That was a bad EC champ, playing a team with significantly more talent let's move on.

1 James Harden
2 Lebron James
3 Anthony Davis
4 Giannis
5 Rudy Gobert

anything above 5 for KD is a absolute joke. He missed games, almost cost his team the WCF, and the team looked way worse in the regular season without Curry. Judging him based on 3 good games against one of the leagues worst defenses is a hottake. He almost cost his team game 1 of the finals as well.

Lol what? You mean he won it for them, right? Game 1 in Houston was won almost exclusively on the strength of KD's isolations, and with Curry locked down for a big portion of the series KD was the only consistent performer and scorer for GSW.

pelifan · Post #4657 » by **pelifan** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:20 am

GSP wrote:
pelifan wrote:Being good in the finals means nothing. That was a bad EC champ, playing a team with significantly more talent let's move on.

1 James Harden
2 Lebron James
3 Anthony Davis
4 Giannis
5 Rudy Gobert

anything above 5 for KD is a absolute joke. He missed games, almost cost his team the WCF, and the team looked way worse in the regular season without Curry. Judging him based on 3 good games against one of the leagues worst defenses is a hottake. He almost cost his team game 1 of the finals as well.

Using the games they played without Steph the 2nd time he got hurt is disingenuous at best. They were locked to the 2 seed, couldnt get past Houston and couldnt drop. They had no incentive and were clearly packing it in for the playoffs

we saw them go 5-1 in actually serious basketball games playing great O and D

Rudy Gobert over Kevin Durant is just

KD making lists after choking in the WCF based on 3 finals games against the leagues 29th ranked defense who's previous best test was Victor Oladipo is :lol:

Rudy isn't a better player than KD but he had an undeniably more impactful regular season and although the whole team got exposed against the Rockets, he's the only reason hey were there in the first place.

Senior · Post #4658 » by **Senior** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:23 am

lebron's injury appears to be self inflicted

does this affect anyone's evaluation of him? I've seen some people dock 85 Bird for his injury/bar fight, same thing apply here?

NinjaSheppard · Post #4659 » by **NinjaSheppard** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:23 am

Kevin Durant is ridiculously good at the game of basketball and he had a ridiculously good season.

Let's not complicate things.

Post #4660 » by **bondom34** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:24 am

Yeah Durant still isn't above Curry for me either and hes likely an HM