Who are next year's mentors?

Post #1 » by **The Rebel** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 12:41 am

Today Browman and the guest cohost interviewed Richard Jefferson about doing broadcast stuff for the Cavs. He said something really interesting when they asked if he had a chance to talk to JR, and he said what they talked about. I kind of remember the stories when Magic dribbled out the clock on a loss one time in the finals, there have been a couple other major screw ups in the finals as well, he said they talked about that kind of stuff.

JR Smith has had a crazy career, he would have always been wondered about how great he could have been, but now he will be known as that guy that was a big difference maker on many of these finals teams with Lebron, even if he is still a bonehead occasionally. A lot of people give credit to Lebron for JR cutting down on the mistakes so much but what does that say about Jefferson when JR sought him out for a private conversation?

The Nuggets talk about how much Miller helped Jokic early in his career, I can tell you that when Jefferson was warming up, when they were coming out at half, on time outs, Jefferson was in Murray and Harris's ear all the time. Both of them ended up doing better than I expected for as young as they are, especially Murray.

So the Question is who are next years mentors that you want, and what/who do you them to help with?

skywalker33 · Post #2 » by **skywalker33** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 12:47 am

Millsap is the obvious answer, for one. Coaches need to step up as well, but who mentors the coaches ??

Post #3 » by **THE J0KER** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:37 am

I think Jameer Nelson has also some good impact in that role.

In 2018-19 our young BIG3 is going to be older for another year, so it will be better to see this time someone who can be more used on the court also with great experience in playoff matches, which means veterans former stars. I mean Vince Carter, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Dwyane Wade type of veterans, but I don't see any available right now. Maybe Jason Terry as backcourt players mentor, but he is not useful on-court anymore.

KeithCozart · Post #4 » by **KeithCozart** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 5:52 am

First we need a guy like Perkins to talk **** and to give our guys much needed confidence. People think Big Perk is a joke, that guy is tough as hell and i would love to see that kind of toughness with our young players. Our vet guys didnt do great job at that aspect of the game. And its very important to have at least one guy like him.

Second, Korver. Probably one of the greatest shooters to ever touch basketball. He has only 3m guaranteed next season if not waived i think. And LeBron is clearly leaving so I think Korver is not in their plans. Maybe even trade, he would be very good asset in our fast paced, ball moving offense. Also a very good mentor to our young players. Especially because he knows his role on the team and that is something really important. Everybody cant be a star.

I agree Vince or Wade would be good options but i dont think that is realistic, I think they want 5m+ deals.

Post #5 » by **NuggetsWY** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 1:51 pm

KeithCozart wrote:First we need a guy like Perkins to talk **** and to give our guys much needed confidence. People think Big Perk is a joke, that guy is tough as hell and i would love to see that kind of toughness with our young players. Our vet guys didnt do great job at that aspect of the game. And its very important to have at least one guy like him.

Second, Korver. Probably one of the greatest shooters to ever touch basketball. He has only 3m guaranteed next season if not waived i think. And LeBron is clearly leaving so I think Korver is not in their plans. Maybe even trade, he would be very good asset in our fast paced, ball moving offense. Also a very good mentor to our young players. Especially because he knows his role on the team and that is something really important. Everybody cant be a star.

I agree Vince or Wade would be good options but i dont think that is realistic, I think they want 5m+ deals.

I would love a Perkins-type but Malone appears to avoid anyone that has attitude.

Post #6 » by **The Rebel** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 2:50 pm

THE J0KER wrote:I think Jameer Nelson has also some good impact in that role.

In 2018-19 our young BIG3 is going to be older for another year, so it will be better to see this time someone who can be more used on the court also with great experience in playoff matches, which means veterans former stars. I mean Vince Carter, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Dwyane Wade type of veterans, but I don't see any available right now. Maybe Jason Terry as backcourt players mentor, but he is not useful on-court anymore.

I agree that Nelson had some value as a mentor, although he was overplayed by Malone and that killed some of the effectiveness.

Carter, Parker, and Wade are all going to be free agents this summer, and there are rumors that Parker is feeling insulted by the Spurs. I don't think Wade leaves Miami, but I would love to see Parker join this team, as a championship winning score 1st PG who could be a lot of help to Murray. I think Carter could really help Beasley and Juancho this year as well.

Post #7 » by **The Rebel** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 2:55 pm

KeithCozart wrote:First we need a guy like Perkins to talk **** and to give our guys much needed confidence. People think Big Perk is a joke, that guy is tough as hell and i would love to see that kind of toughness with our young players. Our vet guys didnt do great job at that aspect of the game. And its very important to have at least one guy like him.

Second, Korver. Probably one of the greatest shooters to ever touch basketball. He has only 3m guaranteed next season if not waived i think. And LeBron is clearly leaving so I think Korver is not in their plans. Maybe even trade, he would be very good asset in our fast paced, ball moving offense. Also a very good mentor to our young players. Especially because he knows his role on the team and that is something really important. Everybody cant be a star.

I agree Vince or Wade would be good options but i dont think that is realistic, I think they want 5m+ deals.

I remember when Perkins joined the Thunder, that team changed overnight, and went from a team we always seemed to have their number to a team that was a contender. The stars get the credit, but he changed that team as much as Bogut going to the Warriors changed their team. I would love to find a guy like him, but I am not sure who that would be these days. There are not a lot of tough physical bigs running around that are also leaders. Aaron Baynes may be the closest free agent these days, and other than that I guess you have the Morris twins who could be traded.

I would love to see Korver added to the team, I think he could help Juancho and Beasley find their roles, and everybody knows Korver can still shoot when called upon.

skywalker33 · Post #8 » by **skywalker33** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 4:19 pm

Personally, I’d rather re-sign Mike Miller as a coach/consultant rather than Korver. I like Korver but he takes a roster spot and cap space which Miller wouldn’t

U hova · Post #9 » by **U hova** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 8:15 pm

Let's see which one of Josh's friends are available on the market

Post #10 » by **NuggetsWY** » Sat Jun 9, 2018 10:28 pm

skywalker33 wrote:Personally, I’d rather re-sign Mike Miller as a coach/consultant rather than Korver. I like Korver but he takes a roster spot and cap space which Miller wouldn’t

I would love, love, love getting Mike Miller. I can't think of anyone I'd rather have as a coach/consultant except maybe/probably Billups.

Post #11 » by **The Rebel** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:13 pm

skywalker33 wrote:Personally, I’d rather re-sign Mike Miller as a coach/consultant rather than Korver. I like Korver but he takes a roster spot and cap space which Miller wouldn’t

There is a big difference between the way people talk to a coworker, a boss, and the owner, having been all 3 in my career it is obvious the differences when you live them. Having Miller as a coach is nice, but that is not the same thing as having a veteran mentor on the bench and in the games that can help guys. Miller was done before he ever got to Denver, Jefferson was as well, Korver while playing limited minutes was just an important role player on back to back finals teams. Sorry if you don't see why that is important, but all the draft picks in the world are not going to help if you do not have guys that can teach them how to become professionals while giving them someone to talk to that are not going to put them in a bad spot with management.

skywalker33 · Post #12 » by **skywalker33** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:25 pm

The Rebel wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:Personally, I’d rather re-sign Mike Miller as a coach/consultant rather than Korver. I like Korver but he takes a roster spot and cap space which Miller wouldn’t

There is a big difference between the way people talk to a coworker, a boss, and the owner, having been all 3 in my career it is obvious the differences when you live them. Having Miller as a coach is nice, but that is not the same thing as having a veteran mentor on the bench and in the games that can help guys. Miller was done before he ever got to Denver, Jefferson was as well, Korver while playing limited minutes was just an important role player on back to back finals teams. Sorry if you don't see why that is important, but all the draft picks in the world are not going to help if you do not have guys that can teach them how to become professionals while giving them someone to talk to that are not going to put them in a bad spot with management.

While Miller was here, he became good friends with Jokic and others on this team, including the FO. Do you think Jokic would stop listening to him just because he's employed differently ??? I don't. I know there are different lines of communication between bosses and coworkers but friendship and respect can override the title aspect, I know I've been promoted and still kept my friendships within a work environment. However, it is also why I added "consultant" to my premise. Miller is not too far away from the game so he can relate to theses guys regardless of a title put behind his name. And I'm sorry for you if you have problems distinguishing your friends from your coworkers.