Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins

[N Y K]

What happened to him dropping to the teens according to this board?

Trade for him if you must.

what do you like about him?

He’s a baller.
Bucket getter.
Needs no help either.

That’s your 1. KP can be your 2.

well i'm sold

[FemaleDogPlease]

Trae Young is going to fall on draft night.

[Fat]

Is Carter really a 2-way ? His defense isnt rated very high compared to everyone else. Mikal and Bamba 9's and Carter a 7. His weaknesses all lead to poor speed and quickness. often the last man down the floor. poor footwork. hasnt separated himself from the other bigs. bla bla bla. just dont get the carter hype based on what ive read.

i know you not a fan but

im listening ? i dont know, im just basing in what ive read. everything i said was taken from a scouting report. what do you know they dont ?

you dont have to read you can easily pull up full length duke games and watch and if you still believe he isnt a two way player then . He's not a better defensive player than bamba or mikal (different position) but he's still a good one. You cant even truly analyze his defense in whole because duke is a zone team and carter was the anchor in that zone. He ranked in the 97th percentile nationally in post-up situations and the 87th percentile defending around the basket. 1 on 1 it is harder to judge him because again duke plays 2-3 zone but he can definitely defend around the rim at a high level.

and offensively he is straight up the most well rounded out of any of the bigs ranked ahead of him i dont even find that to be a debate.

the only concern you can legit walk away with is how he fits with porzingis and mobility on the perimeter but not a 2 way player? cmon lol he's a traditional big + can expand his range, rebound & protect the rim he's just not ELITE at one thing in particular.

[DOT]

what do you like about him?

He’s a baller.
Bucket getter.
Needs no help either.

That’s your 1. KP can be your 2.

Don't forget he's 6-10 or 6-11. Fluid and athletic


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Doesn't mean much when you don't have a back

[N Y K]

i know you not a fan but

im listening ? i dont know, im just basing in what ive read. everything i said was taken from a scouting report. what do you know they dont ?

you dont have to read you can easily pull up full length duke games and watch and if you still believe he isnt a two way player then . He's not a better defensive player than bamba or mikal (different position) but he's still a good one. You cant even truly analyze his defense in whole because duke is a zone team and carter was the anchor in that zone. He ranked in the 97th percentile nationally in post-up situations and the 87th percentile defending around the basket. 1 on 1 it is harder to judge him because again duke plays 2-3 zone but he can definitely defend around the rim at a high level.

and offensively he is straight up the most well rounded out of any of the bigs ranked ahead of him i dont even find that to be a debate.

the only concern you can legit walk away with is how he fits with porzingis and mobility on the perimeter but not a 2 way player? cmon lol he's a traditional big + can expand his range, rebound & protect the rim he's just not ELITE at one thing in particular.

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[vallen]

i know you not a fan but

im listening ? i dont know, im just basing in what ive read. everything i said was taken from a scouting report. what do you know they dont ?

you dont have to read you can easily pull up full length duke games and watch and if you still believe he isnt a two way player then . He's not a better defensive player than bamba or mikal (different position) but he's still a good one. You cant even truly analyze his defense in whole because duke is a zone team and carter was the anchor in that zone. He ranked in the 97th percentile nationally in post-up situations and the 87th percentile defending around the basket. 1 on 1 it is harder to judge him because again duke plays 2-3 zone but he can definitely defend around the rim at a high level.

and offensively he is straight up the most well rounded out of any of the bigs ranked ahead of him i dont even find that to be a debate.

the only concern you can legit walk away with is how he fits with porzingis and mobility on the perimeter but not a 2 way player? cmon lol he's a traditional big + can expand his range, rebound & protect the rim he's just not ELITE at one thing in particular.

wow. all that and sliding. ok i guess ill agree to disagree. thats pretty hype lol.

[KnicksGadfly]

what do you like about him?

He’s a baller.
Bucket getter.
Needs no help either.

That’s your 1. KP can be your 2.

well i'm sold

If MPJ is there, I'd take a serious look. It's very rare to get a talent like that at 9.

Also, I think this argument of "there's a reason he falls to 9" to discredit a player is very dumb. KP fell to 4th, cause the Lakers decided to beat him up and make a point. Sometimes teams make mistakes.

[N Y K]

He’s a baller.
Bucket getter.
Needs no help either.

That’s your 1. KP can be your 2.

well i'm sold

If MPJ is there, I'd take a serious look. It's very rare to get a talent like that at 9.

Also, I think this argument of "there's a reason he falls to 9" to discredit a player is very dumb. KP fell to 4th, cause the Lakers decided to beat him up and make a point. Sometimes teams make mistakes.

does spinal surgery need to be in quotes or is it obvious enough a reason to fall?

and sure teams make mistakes. i just like the obsession over someone that no one here has seen play. teams, im sure, will have more info and can make their picks accordingly.

[vallen]

He’s a baller.
Bucket getter.
Needs no help either.

That’s your 1. KP can be your 2.

well i'm sold

If MPJ is there, I'd take a serious look. It's very rare to get a talent like that at 9.

Also, I think this argument of "there's a reason he falls to 9" to discredit a player is very dumb. KP fell to 4th, cause the Lakers decided to beat him up and make a point. Sometimes teams make mistakes.

KP didnt fall. he was projected right where he was picked. Falling is being projected early and taken late. If anything KP stock rose.

[reub]

He’s a baller.
Bucket getter.
Needs no help either.

That’s your 1. KP can be your 2.

well i'm sold

If MPJ is there, I'd take a serious look. It's very rare to get a talent like that at 9.

Also, I think this argument of "there's a reason he falls to 9" to discredit a player is very dumb. KP fell to 4th, cause the Lakers decided to beat him up and make a point. Sometimes teams make mistakes.

If Porter falls it'll be because teams have questions about his health. Otherwise we would have no chance at him. Big risk equals the chance for big reward.

[Fat]

im listening ? i dont know, im just basing in what ive read. everything i said was taken from a scouting report. what do you know they dont ?

you dont have to read you can easily pull up full length duke games and watch and if you still believe he isnt a two way player then . He's not a better defensive player than bamba or mikal (different position) but he's still a good one. You cant even truly analyze his defense in whole because duke is a zone team and carter was the anchor in that zone. He ranked in the 97th percentile nationally in post-up situations and the 87th percentile defending around the basket. 1 on 1 it is harder to judge him because again duke plays 2-3 zone but he can definitely defend around the rim at a high level.

and offensively he is straight up the most well rounded out of any of the bigs ranked ahead of him i dont even find that to be a debate.

the only concern you can legit walk away with is how he fits with porzingis and mobility on the perimeter but not a 2 way player? cmon lol he's a traditional big + can expand his range, rebound & protect the rim he's just not ELITE at one thing in particular.

wow. all that and sliding. ok i guess ill agree to disagree. thats pretty hype lol.

13/9/2 playing second fiddle to Bagley. 76 blocked shots, 16 double doubles. shot better than 50 percent from the field, 40 percent from 3, 73 percent from the line, 9'1 standing reach, 7'4 wingspan and looks to be in even better shape.

you getting sold yet? not even a little?

[N Y K]

The thing is, with Porter's surgery, the back is an issue, but that problem can also weaken his legs. I hope he's good, but if that doesn't give you pause, I don't know what.

hopefully he's good... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[vallen]

you dont have to read you can easily pull up full length duke games and watch and if you still believe he isnt a two way player then . He's not a better defensive player than bamba or mikal (different position) but he's still a good one. You cant even truly analyze his defense in whole because duke is a zone team and carter was the anchor in that zone. He ranked in the 97th percentile nationally in post-up situations and the 87th percentile defending around the basket. 1 on 1 it is harder to judge him because again duke plays 2-3 zone but he can definitely defend around the rim at a high level.

and offensively he is straight up the most well rounded out of any of the bigs ranked ahead of him i dont even find that to be a debate.

the only concern you can legit walk away with is how he fits with porzingis and mobility on the perimeter but not a 2 way player? cmon lol he's a traditional big + can expand his range, rebound & protect the rim he's just not ELITE at one thing in particular.

wow. all that and sliding. ok i guess ill agree to disagree. thats pretty hype lol.

13/9/2 playing second fiddle to Bagley. 76 blocked shots, 16 double doubles. shot better than 50 percent from the field, 40 percent from 3, 73 percent from the line.

you getting sold yet? not even a little?

While solid, he didn’t have a great set of All American games or practices. Didn’t separate himself among the other big men and had quiet performances overall …

One of the more ready players moving forward but lacks the upside some of the other big men in his class possess

Has a solid vertical but is not much of a run and jump athlete. Sometimes the last player up the court

Isn’t very quick when reacting on defense and closing out to contest shooters …

Not at all. I know its easy to post scouting report weaknesses but his worry me at the next level playing faster, quicker, more athletic players in the NBA. There giant flashing red flags IMO. Its a different game from Duke. also hes from Duke. again ill agree to disagree. not a fan.

[N Y K]

wow. all that and sliding. ok i guess ill agree to disagree. thats pretty hype lol.

13/9/2 playing second fiddle to Bagley. 76 blocked shots, 16 double doubles. shot better than 50 percent from the field, 40 percent from 3, 73 percent from the line.

you getting sold yet? not even a little?

While solid, he didn’t have a great set of All American games or practices. Didn’t separate himself among the other big men and had quiet performances overall …

One of the more ready players moving forward but lacks the upside some of the other big men in his class possess

Has a solid vertical but is not much of a run and jump athlete. Sometimes the last player up the court

Isn’t very quick when reacting on defense and closing out to contest shooters …

Not at all. I know its easy to post scouting report weaknesses but his worry me at the next level playing faster, quicker, more athletic players in the NBA. There giant flashing red flags IMO. Its a different game from Duke. also hes from Duke. again ill agree to disagree. not a fan.

where's that from?

[dakomish23]

Trae Young is going to fall on draft night.

Not passed us IMO. I think we take him if he’s there.

[dakomish23]

You're not, but I've stopped caring about players who are most likely not gonna drop to us

What happened to him dropping to the teens according to this board?

Trade for him if you must.

He seems to have killed it in the workouts, so not gonna get past the Cavs.

If he’s anything near what the hype was then he’s gonna extend Lebron’s reign another 5 years

[vallen]

13/9/2 playing second fiddle to Bagley. 76 blocked shots, 16 double doubles. shot better than 50 percent from the field, 40 percent from 3, 73 percent from the line.

you getting sold yet? not even a little?

While solid, he didn’t have a great set of All American games or practices. Didn’t separate himself among the other big men and had quiet performances overall …

One of the more ready players moving forward but lacks the upside some of the other big men in his class possess

Has a solid vertical but is not much of a run and jump athlete. Sometimes the last player up the court

Isn’t very quick when reacting on defense and closing out to contest shooters …

Not at all. I know its easy to post scouting report weaknesses but his worry me at the next level playing faster, quicker, more athletic players in the NBA. There giant flashing red flags IMO. Its a different game from Duke. also hes from Duke. again ill agree to disagree. not a fan.

where's that from?

Weaknesses: While he can explode up, he’s not much of a transition finisher. Has a solid vertical but is not much of a run and jump athlete. Sometimes the last player up the court … Isn’t very quick when reacting on defense and closing out to contest shooters … Post-game while sound, is still in early stages of development ... Needs to add more technique with his foot work, moving forward, to allow him more success when he doesn’t have a physical advantage … Tries to attack the set defense too often … Has a strong body but has a thick build that may add weight if he doesn’t emphasize staying in shape … One of the more ready players moving forward but lacks the upside some of the other big men in his class possess … May ultimately be a small 5 due to his lack of ideal foot speed ... While solid, he didn’t have a great set of All American games or practices. Didn’t separate himself among the other big men and had quiet performances overall …

NBAdraft.net

[Capn'O]

Interesting prospect. Going 19th in the B/R mock

Watch on YouTube

Big fan of his. Was actually doing a video last night until unforeseen circumstances prevented that. Have clips to start it, but not enough.

The way he shot kind of reminded me of Mighty Mouse.

Did him and frank play together at all?

Sell me on him, guys. I watched highlights from the 44 pt game. He looks like he has a nice pullup 3 which is a boon but I didn't like much else about his game. Didn't see the kind of vision or decision making I'd want from a 1 and his athleticism doesn't look translatable to this league. Perhaps there is some upside with it though?

[dakomish23]

That Frank Mikal and KP defense gonna be like

I use gifs of these to demonstrate LFT’s defense

[Fat]

wow. all that and sliding. ok i guess ill agree to disagree. thats pretty hype lol.

13/9/2 playing second fiddle to Bagley. 76 blocked shots, 16 double doubles. shot better than 50 percent from the field, 40 percent from 3, 73 percent from the line.

you getting sold yet? not even a little?

While solid, he didn’t have a great set of All American games or practices. Didn’t separate himself among the other big men and had quiet performances overall …

One of the more ready players moving forward but lacks the upside some of the other big men in his class possess

Has a solid vertical but is not much of a run and jump athlete. Sometimes the last player up the court

Isn’t very quick when reacting on defense and closing out to contest shooters …

Not at all. I know its easy to post scouting report weaknesses but his worry me at the next level playing faster, quicker, more athletic players in the NBA. There giant flashing red flags IMO. Its a different game from Duke. also hes from Duke. again ill agree to disagree. not a fan.

Your reading a old NBAdraftnet summary my guy lol