Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins

[dakomish23]

Teams are def calling to rip us off. Nobody is gonna give us a sweetheart deal to move up

My bigger concern is that they’re trying to move up for MPJ and not Doncic.

I wouldn’t do it but it’s very tempting to try to move up for Luka. Did you listen to today’s Duncd On pod? Deep dive into Luka. As I was listening to them go through his profile all I kept thinking about was all the useless wins that the vets helped us get.

i think you dream about that regularly.

You would be right.

[Spree2Houston]

If Knicks are trying to trade up 2-3 slots, then I would only do 9 + 36 + Burke. If we're going after Kyrie, then we're not going to keep Burke around

my issue isn't trying to deal up, my issue is targeting porter...why?

It's probably Mills who's interested in Porter lol

[mpharris36]

If Knicks are trying to trade up 2-3 slots, then I would only do 9 + 36 + Burke. If we're going after Kyrie, then we're not going to keep Burke around

my issue isn't trying to deal up, my issue is targeting porter...why?

It's probably Mills who's interested in Porter lol

that speaks volumes...

[Deeeez Knicks]

lol, the headline def got me to click

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2018-nba-mock-draft-bamba-falls-to-knicks-sexton-and-young-battle-for-top-pg-in-latest-projection/

9 KNICKS
Mohamed Bamba | Texas | Fr | C

The Knicks aren't giving up on Frank Ntilikina or Emmanuel Mudiay just yet, which means they have the luxury of grabbing Mo Bamba -- who surprisingly falls to them at No. 9 and is the clear-cut best available prospect on the board at that spot. Bamba's a rim-protecting big man with an endless wingspan who, alongside Kristaps Porzingis, will help make up the most terrifyingly long frontcourt in the league.

I don't think it's totally out of the question.

There's a few things that have to happen and it's possible.

1. PHX- Ayton
2. SAC- Doncic
3. ATL- Bagley
4. MEM MPJ... I've read that they really like him
5. Mavs- JJJ... if JJJ and Bamba are still on the board then it's very possible that Dallas takes JJJ
6. Magic- Trae... I don't think they want another project and they need a PG badly.
7. Bulls- Mikal or Bamba... this is the wildcard team imo. If they see Lauri as their C of the future then they might pass on Bamba
8. Cavs- Sexton...I highly doubt they'll use this pick for such a project like Bamba


But if Bamba slips, I can see a team trading up for him before he gets to us.

All I know is that someone is going to slip from their projected spot, if Doncic goes in the top3 and Memphis takes MPJ then I see a big man slipping and if Doncic doesn't go top 3 then he slips to 6 or lower imo.

Yeah, I guess you never know. I think he goes in the top 4, but if he slips I def dont see anyway the Bulls pass.

Personally, I would have him in my top 2. Would love him on the Knicks next to KP

[BLACKFEET 2010]

Orlando receives:
Tim Hardaway Jr.
Joakim Noah
Lance Thomas
Ante Zizic
Daymean Dotson
#8 (Trae)
#36

Cleveland receives:
Jonathan Simmons
Trey Burke
#9 (Mikal/Sexton)
#41

Knicks receive:
JR Smith
Terrence Ross
Bizmack Biyombo
#7 (Porter)
#35

The thing we need to know is Cleveland’s interest in Trae. If HE’s their target then this won’t work. If they’re not interested in him but rather in Mikal or Sexton, they’ll be available at #9. They upgrade to a tough minded Spurs-made Simmons while ridding themselves of JR and bringing Trae back home on his non guaranteed. With a shiny new Sexton or Bridges to boot.

Orlando gets exciting real quick with Trae and Tim running and chucking. And like I said in an earlier post, Central Florida may be the only place outside of Chicago and Hell’s Kitchen that has any Joakim Noah love left. Definitely more than Biz Biyombo. Both bad contract washes. Trae and Tim as Steph and Klay. Jo as Bogut. Yadda, yadda. That’s all I got. You get it.

We buy out JR. Reduced future salary. Jo had to go.
It fake news hurts to lose Tim. We didn’t send our players to ‘basketball hell’ because “we are very fond of them as not just basketball players but as young men...and their families...” yunno.

Biz is only 25, Scott’s signing I believe(?) and damn, only 25?
Ross might help or not. He’s expiring.
We had to overpay in terms of talent but we didn’t give up any draft picks. We will be active later in the draft to replace the young talent we lost positionally on the perimeter.

We draft Porter.
Imagine the KP workout in 2015.
Imagine if Porter’s was anything like that as far as shooting and moving for his size.
I think we are terribly underrating how good this guy might be. It’s that back tho. If the medicals show anything suspect, ANYTHING, then forget it.

I think there’s gonna be a stare down because Scott’s shown a willingness to do just that in the past in negotiations.

His ties to Orlando help make this a reality. Best believe Scott wants to put his spin on this roster. Steve, I don’t think would let him trade Frank and I don’t this we want to move Frank. But he needs his signature guy. He needs to also hedge against KP one day bolting.

I’m calling it.
Again. The back gotta be right.
We gonna do something like this.

[Maury2423]

lol, the headline def got me to click

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2018-nba-mock-draft-bamba-falls-to-knicks-sexton-and-young-battle-for-top-pg-in-latest-projection/

I don't think it's totally out of the question.

There's a few things that have to happen and it's possible.

1. PHX- Ayton
2. SAC- Doncic
3. ATL- Bagley
4. MEM MPJ... I've read that they really like him
5. Mavs- JJJ... if JJJ and Bamba are still on the board then it's very possible that Dallas takes JJJ
6. Magic- Trae... I don't think they want another project and they need a PG badly.
7. Bulls- Mikal or Bamba... this is the wildcard team imo. If they see Lauri as their C of the future then they might pass on Bamba
8. Cavs- Sexton...I highly doubt they'll use this pick for such a project like Bamba


But if Bamba slips, I can see a team trading up for him before he gets to us.

All I know is that someone is going to slip from their projected spot, if Doncic goes in the top3 and Memphis takes MPJ then I see a big man slipping and if Doncic doesn't go top 3 then he slips to 6 or lower imo.

Yeah, I guess you never know. I think he goes in the top 4, but if he slips I def dont see anyway the Bulls pass.

Personally, I would have him in my top 2. Would love him on the Knicks next to KP

Yeh he's in my top 2 too, I have Doncic then Bamba as my favorites.

I don't think he'll get past 5 tbh.

All I know is that someone is going to slip mainly because I think Memphis takes MPJ at 4. I've read that they really like him...

[Knicksfan1992]

Feel like Porter is reaching that he's so overrated that he's now underrated level especially on this board. His ceiling is way higher than Mikal or Miles. And I'll just leave it there for now... but I would understand if Porter got to 6 and we wanted to trade up without giving up Frank/KP. Judging him for how he was at Missouri is not fair given the context of his return and where he was physically. No prospect in our range is without their warts.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

I’m sure this was posted an hour ago

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They want to rob the Knicks of a future 1st pick I suspect.

[DOT]

Feel like Porter is reaching that he's so overrated that he's now underrated level especially on this board. His ceiling is way higher than Mikal or Miles. And I'll just leave it there for now... but I would understand if Porter got to 6 and we wanted to trade up without giving up Frank/KP. Judging him for how he was at Missouri is not fair given the context of his return and where he was physically. No prospect in our range is without their warts.

Other prospects have issues they can work on

Mikal can work on his shot creation, Carter can work on his perimeter defense, Sexton can work on his shot, Knox can work on his aggression, etc

Can't really make a bad back better by practice. Or short arms, too

[Knicksfan20]

Knicksfan20 Mockdraft

1. PHX: Deandre Ayton
2. Sac: Marvin Bagley
3. ATL: Mohamed Bamba
4. Mem: Luka Doncic
5. Dal: Jaren Jackson Jr
6. Orl: Collin Sexton
7. Chi: Wendell Carter
8. Clv: Trey Young
9. NYK: Mikal Bridges
10:Phi : Michael Porter Jr
11.Cha: Kevin Knox
12.LAC: Miles Bridges
13.LAC: Lonnie Walker
14.Den: Robert Williams
15.Was: Omari Spellman
16.PHX: SGA
17.Mil: Mitchell Robinson
18.SAS: Troy Brown JR
19.Atl: Zhaire Smith
20.Min: Anfernee Simons
21.UTA: Kevin Huerter
22.CHI: Chandler Hutchison
23.IND: Dzanan Musa
24:Por: Keita Bates Diop
25:LAL: Donte DiVinchenzo
26.Phi: Khyri Thomas
27.Bos: Grayson Allen
28.Gsw: Jarred Vanderbilt
29.Bkn: Eli Okobo
30 ATL: Jerome Robinson

2nd Round:

31.PHX: Aaron Holliday
32.Mem: Jacob Evans
33.Dal: Gary Trent Jr
34.ATl: Landry Shamet
35.ORL: Josh Okogie
36.NYK: Adjin Penava (or Chimezie Metu)
37. Fk errrbody else

Cool so i spend an hour of my time putting together a mock draft and you respond with a sarcastic gif over who i want with a 2nd round pick...

[Knicksfan1992]

Feel like Porter is reaching that he's so overrated that he's now underrated level especially on this board. His ceiling is way higher than Mikal or Miles. And I'll just leave it there for now... but I would understand if Porter got to 6 and we wanted to trade up without giving up Frank/KP. Judging him for how he was at Missouri is not fair given the context of his return and where he was physically. No prospect in our range is without their warts.

Other prospects have issues they can work on

Mikal can work on his shot creation, Carter can work on his perimeter defense, Sexton can work on his shot, Knox can work on his aggression, etc

Can't really make a bad back better by practice. Or short arms, too

I'm obviously only high on Porter if it comes back that his back won't have long term effects. Obviously, if the back was a true massive issue he would fall out of the lottery. I don't think that's the case here or it wouldn't have come out that the Grizz were super interested in him IMO. Anyway I don't think he falls to us just a hunch.

[3toheadmelo]

some footage of porter before the injury against decent competition

Watch on YouTube

thoughts:

so after watching the whole vid... he's basically what i been saying about him since last summer. his handles are mad weak and need a lot of work. i think he made literally 1 jumper off the dribble... most of the shots he took were contested as well since he doesn't know how to create much seperation.

his go to move is a pull up J because his handles are so weak he can't create anything else, and he missed every time he did that


overall: very meh

[nykfan42]

lol, the headline def got me to click

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2018-nba-mock-draft-bamba-falls-to-knicks-sexton-and-young-battle-for-top-pg-in-latest-projection/

9 KNICKS
Mohamed Bamba | Texas | Fr | C

The Knicks aren't giving up on Frank Ntilikina or Emmanuel Mudiay just yet, which means they have the luxury of grabbing Mo Bamba -- who surprisingly falls to them at No. 9 and is the clear-cut best available prospect on the board at that spot. Bamba's a rim-protecting big man with an endless wingspan who, alongside Kristaps Porzingis, will help make up the most terrifyingly long frontcourt in the league.

Yeah what's that about? Is this guy even that good? From the footage I've seen he just looks like he moves in slow motion.

[E-Balla]

Still true though.

Well thank you for telling me no one can see the future. Love your meaningful and totally adding to the conversation posts.

Thank you for not getting too mad at being put in your place.

It happens

Serious question, do you even know what my first post said that you were responding to? Know what the conversation was? Do you even know what you said or did you see an opportunity to nitpick and say technically no one knows the future so no pick is a bad draft pick as if that's making a point? Like was that really profound to you? You click submit and think to yourself "now I got him, another win for semantic man"?

[E-Balla]

some footage of porter before the injury against decent competition

Watch on YouTube

thoughts:

so after watching the whole vid... he's basically what i been saying about him since last summer. his handles are mad weak and need a lot of work. i think he made literally 1 jumper off the dribble... most of the shots he took were contested as well since he doesn't know how to create much seperation.

his go to move is a pull up J because his handles are so weak he can't create anything else, and he missed every time he did that


overall: very meh

He might end up a taller Klay Thompson at best because his shot is nasty. But its tough to predict whether or not someone can shoot on THAT level or if they'll end up shooting at Steve Novak level.

[spree8]

Feel like Porter is reaching that he's so overrated that he's now underrated level especially on this board. His ceiling is way higher than Mikal or Miles. And I'll just leave it there for now... but I would understand if Porter got to 6 and we wanted to trade up without giving up Frank/KP. Judging him for how he was at Missouri is not fair given the context of his return and where he was physically. No prospect in our range is without their warts.

The issue is mainly his back injury (well for me at least). Before the season I had him (and Bamba) as my favorite coming outta HS, but a major injury like that is concerning long-term. I don’t even care how he did in college because he obviously wasn’t 100%. I just don’t wanna take the risk, especially with KP’s injury concerns. That’s just too much to deal with.

[Knicksfan1992]

Feel like Porter is reaching that he's so overrated that he's now underrated level especially on this board. His ceiling is way higher than Mikal or Miles. And I'll just leave it there for now... but I would understand if Porter got to 6 and we wanted to trade up without giving up Frank/KP. Judging him for how he was at Missouri is not fair given the context of his return and where he was physically. No prospect in our range is without their warts.

The issue is mainly his back injury (well for me at least). Before the season I had him (and Bamba) as my favorite coming outta HS, but a major injury like that is concerning long-term. I don’t even care how he did in college because he obviously wasn’t 100%. I just don’t wanna take the risk, especially with KP’s injury concerns. That’s just too much to deal with.

I understand those concerns for sure. I'm assuming no long term effects. I think the only reason he's in the same tier as Mikal and Miles is the back.

[Marty McFly]

I’m sure this was posted an hour ago

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this **** sounds like the colangelo fultz debacle redux. brian traded a future first to move up for fultz, all the while ainge was going to pass on him for Tatum anyway.

MPJR is gonna fall. maybe not to 9, but he's definitely not getting picked in the top 6.

knicks have no business trading up unless it's for Doncic AND IF they think he's going to be a better wing than any of the lauded wings in next year's wing heavy draft.

buffalo wings.

[3toheadmelo]

some footage of porter before the injury against decent competition

Watch on YouTube

thoughts:

so after watching the whole vid... he's basically what i been saying about him since last summer. his handles are mad weak and need a lot of work. i think he made literally 1 jumper off the dribble... most of the shots he took were contested as well since he doesn't know how to create much seperation.

his go to move is a pull up J because his handles are so weak he can't create anything else, and he missed every time he did that


overall: very meh

He might end up a taller Klay Thompson at best because his shot is nasty. But its tough to predict whether or not someone can shoot on THAT level or if they'll end up shooting at Steve Novak level.

i dont think his shot is that good. he has a nice form and high release but his shot doesn't look automatic like klay

[E-Balla]

some footage of porter before the injury against decent competition

Watch on YouTube

thoughts:

so after watching the whole vid... he's basically what i been saying about him since last summer. his handles are mad weak and need a lot of work. i think he made literally 1 jumper off the dribble... most of the shots he took were contested as well since he doesn't know how to create much seperation.

his go to move is a pull up J because his handles are so weak he can't create anything else, and he missed every time he did that


overall: very meh

He might end up a taller Klay Thompson at best because his shot is nasty. But its tough to predict whether or not someone can shoot on THAT level or if they'll end up shooting at Steve Novak level.

i dont think his shot is that good. he has a nice form and high release but his shot doesn't look automatic like klay

Like I said its tough to predict that. Like seriously its almost impossible there's not much of a difference in the shooting forms of great high volume shooters and regular great shooters.