Draft Thread 13 - The Field Thins

[HEZI]

He might end up a taller Klay Thompson at best because his shot is nasty. But its tough to predict whether or not someone can shoot on THAT level or if they'll end up shooting at Steve Novak level.

i dont think his shot is that good. he has a nice form and high release but his shot doesn't look automatic like klay

Like I said its tough to predict that. Like seriously its almost impossible there's not much of a difference in the shooting forms of great high volume shooters and regular great shooters.

Right but Klay isn't a stationary shooter. He does his work before catching the ball. MPJ doesn't look like he has the mobility to beat guys off the ball. He looks like a stationary shooter.

I don't get the hype around the dude, the more I watch the less impressive he looks every time.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

Baby Greek is staying in the draft AND has cancelled all workouts.

[3toheadmelo]

He might end up a taller Klay Thompson at best because his shot is nasty. But its tough to predict whether or not someone can shoot on THAT level or if they'll end up shooting at Steve Novak level.

i dont think his shot is that good. he has a nice form and high release but his shot doesn't look automatic like klay

Like I said its tough to predict that. Like seriously its almost impossible there's not much of a difference in the shooting forms of great high volume shooters and regular great shooters.

he seems like a high volume shooter

would you take him at #9? i dont think i would

[Knicksfan1992]

i dont think his shot is that good. he has a nice form and high release but his shot doesn't look automatic like klay

Like I said its tough to predict that. Like seriously its almost impossible there's not much of a difference in the shooting forms of great high volume shooters and regular great shooters.

Right but Klay isn't a stationary shooter. He does his work before catching the ball. MPJ doesn't look like he has the mobility to beat guys off the ball. He looks like a stationary shooter.

I don't get the hype around the dude, the more I watch the less impressive he looks every time.

You have to take into account that has going to be guarded by 4s and 5s at the NBA level. With his skill level that's a major benefit afforded to him in contrast to a Klay who isn't big enough to warrant 4s covering him

[malik959]

It didn't make much sense to me either, especially when they put this graphic up on draft night



That shyt had me in tears

Phil Jackson and the triangle is the reason. I wish there was a way to know what Mills and Perry would of done if Phil was already gone.

Mills already admitted he would have still taken Frank but it could just be him not wanting to throw the kid under the bus. We won't really know the real answer. I doubt that Frank even had a good workout, they just wanted him all along so they took him. The kid was playing for his team in France then jumped on a long flight and had a workout in New York. Hard to imagine him not being jet lagged, nervous, tired and still having a good showing or at least having a better workout than Donovan Mitchell. They took him because they wanted him before the draft process even started, all the other workouts they did were kinda irrelevant.

I was pissed when they did this because just days before they were all saying that they didn't know enough about him and had him going to I believe Dallas or the Knicks on their draft board, but knew Mark Cuban had the hots for him. But Jalen Rose himself just found another opportunity to dog the Knicks because of his hate for the organization. But anyway if you look at it this way who was the better player at 18 years of age? Would you have taken Mitchell top ten when he was 18?

[Fat]

i just want to see porters workouts

[E-Balla]

i dont think his shot is that good. he has a nice form and high release but his shot doesn't look automatic like klay

Like I said its tough to predict that. Like seriously its almost impossible there's not much of a difference in the shooting forms of great high volume shooters and regular great shooters.

he seems like a high volume shooter

would you take him at #9? i dont think i would

Being a high volume shooter and being a high volume 3 point shooter aren't the same thing. Melo was a high volume shooter early in his career but it wasn't until 2013 that he learned how to pack it on from deep.

And I been said Porter is trash he's not better than Jontay.

[Reign23]

keep thinking about how we could get a 2nd lottery pick (or even top 16). why I'm doing this to me...

[Toranaga]

keep thinking about how we could get a 2nd lottery pick (or even top 16). why I'm doing this to me...

We have no tradeable assets. Give it up bruh lol.

[2010]

Baby Greek is staying in the draft AND has cancelled all workouts.

Wow...can you say promise?

[HEZI]

Like I said its tough to predict that. Like seriously its almost impossible there's not much of a difference in the shooting forms of great high volume shooters and regular great shooters.

Right but Klay isn't a stationary shooter. He does his work before catching the ball. MPJ doesn't look like he has the mobility to beat guys off the ball. He looks like a stationary shooter.

I don't get the hype around the dude, the more I watch the less impressive he looks every time.

You have to take into account that has going to be guarded by 4s and 5s at the NBA level. With his skill level that's a major benefit afforded to him in contrast to a Klay who isn't big enough to warrant 4s covering him

But what's he going to do against them though? His handles are very shaky and he's a toothpick with a fragile frame. His footwork in the post is pretty good but he's going to have to work extra hard fighting for position in the NBA just trying to get to that spot, so I don't really see how he's going to consistently be able to create separation in the NBA.

[dakomish23]

who on god's earth would move down for trey burke ?!?@?#?$?%???? this thread is crazy. i never should have came here. lol

We can throw in Tim Hardawy Jr too

But only if they throw in a second

Which also happens to be the amount of time it took ATL to decline matching the contract we gave THJ

[dakomish23]

keep thinking about how we could get a 2nd lottery pick (or even top 16). why I'm doing this to me...

Only see this happening if WAS is desperate to add depth and shooting and are trying to cut their bill

Lee for Mahimi / #15

[newyorker4ever]

Well thank you for telling me no one can see the future. Love your meaningful and totally adding to the conversation posts.

Thank you for not getting too mad at being put in your place.

It happens

Serious question, do you even know what my first post said that you were responding to? Know what the conversation was? Do you even know what you said or did you see an opportunity to nitpick and say technically no one knows the future so no pick is a bad draft pick as if that's making a point? Like was that really profound to you? You click submit and think to yourself "now I got him, another win for semantic man"?

Why so mad?

[HEZI]

Phil Jackson and the triangle is the reason. I wish there was a way to know what Mills and Perry would of done if Phil was already gone.

Mills already admitted he would have still taken Frank but it could just be him not wanting to throw the kid under the bus. We won't really know the real answer. I doubt that Frank even had a good workout, they just wanted him all along so they took him. The kid was playing for his team in France then jumped on a long flight and had a workout in New York. Hard to imagine him not being jet lagged, nervous, tired and still having a good showing or at least having a better workout than Donovan Mitchell. They took him because they wanted him before the draft process even started, all the other workouts they did were kinda irrelevant.

I was pissed when they did this because just days before they were all saying that they didn't know enough about him and had him going to I believe Dallas or the Knicks on their draft board, but knew Mark Cuban had the hots for him. But Jalen Rose himself just found another opportunity to dog the Knicks because of his hate for the organization. But anyway if you look at it this way who was the better player at 18 years of age? Would you have taken Mitchell top ten when he was 18?

Yeah, I still take 18 year old Mitchell over Frank. There's enough high school and freshman year at Louisville footage out there to see that Mitchell still showed flashes of who he was. The quick first step, shiftiness off the dribble, explosive athleticism, good looking shot mechanics, all these things were being flashed when he was Frank's age.

[Fury]

Mills already admitted he would have still taken Frank but it could just be him not wanting to throw the kid under the bus. We won't really know the real answer. I doubt that Frank even had a good workout, they just wanted him all along so they took him. The kid was playing for his team in France then jumped on a long flight and had a workout in New York. Hard to imagine him not being jet lagged, nervous, tired and still having a good showing or at least having a better workout than Donovan Mitchell. They took him because they wanted him before the draft process even started, all the other workouts they did were kinda irrelevant.

I was pissed when they did this because just days before they were all saying that they didn't know enough about him and had him going to I believe Dallas or the Knicks on their draft board, but knew Mark Cuban had the hots for him. But Jalen Rose himself just found another opportunity to dog the Knicks because of his hate for the organization. But anyway if you look at it this way who was the better player at 18 years of age? Would you have taken Mitchell top ten when he was 18?

Yeah, I still take 18 year old Mitchell over Frank. There's enough high school and freshman year at Louisville footage out there to see that Mitchell still showed flashes of who he was. The quick first step, shiftiness off the dribble, explosive athleticism, good looking shot mechanics, all these things were being flashed when he was Frank's age.

Lol

[nykballa2k4]

Feel like Porter is reaching that he's so overrated that he's now underrated level especially on this board. His ceiling is way higher than Mikal or Miles. And I'll just leave it there for now... but I would understand if Porter got to 6 and we wanted to trade up without giving up Frank/KP. Judging him for how he was at Missouri is not fair given the context of his return and where he was physically. No prospect in our range is without their warts.

Porter could be the next Gallo with that back injury. A star when healthy, but only available for 60 games/year. Rather draft Danny Green (Mikal), Corey Maggette (Miles) or Gallo (Porter)?

[nykballa2k4]

New York Knicks should consider trade for Kenneth Faried
by Kenneth Teape7 hours agoFollow @teapester725

The New York Knicks should take advantage of the Denver Nuggets trying to unload Kenneth Faried if it means adding another first round pick in the 2018 NBA Draft.
The New York Knicks will be draft ninth overall in the 2018 NBA Draft. It will give them another opportunity to add some young talent to the roster. Right now, Kristaps Porzingis and Frank Ntilikina are the foundation of the team.

The No. 9 overall pick will, hopefully, provide the Knicks with another building block for the future. While adding one building block is nice, adding two would be even better.

Landing more first round picks has become difficult in recent seasons. They have immense value as cost-controlled, young talent. While they rarely come available, there is a chance that another lottery pick could be moved in the coming weeks.

The Denver Nuggets have the No. 14 pick in the 2018 NBA Draft. However, they do not have much cap space to work with this offseason to improve the team. As a result, they could look to unload some salary in the form of Kenneth Faried.

Faried is owed $13.8 million in the final year of his four-year, $50 million extension signed on Oct. 8, 2014. Faried was coming off arguably the best season of his career and the extension looked like a no-brainer. However, things have not progressed as the team had hoped.

Faried has seen his role with the team diminish in recent seasons. His minutes per game have decreased in three consecutive seasons. Last season, he played only 32 games, averaging 14.4 minutes per game.

As a result, the Nuggets could look to unload Faried this offseason and use the 14th overall pick as a sweetener for a deal.

Ryan Blackburn of Denver Stiffs shared some information from Adrian Wojnarowski on the ESPN Mock Special. Wojnarowski shared the information about the Nuggets looking to trade Faried and attaching the 14th pick along with him.


Ryan Blackburn
@NBABlackburn
@wojespn during the ESPN Mock Special just now:

"The Nuggets have been trying to get off of Kenneth Faried's contract for a year plus. They're a candidate to use that 14th pick to get off of that salary."

Lines up with what a lot of Nuggets pundits have thought for awhile.

This is something that the Knicks should get into the bidding for. The Knicks’ frontcourt could look a lot different during the 2018-19 season.

Michael Beasley is an unrestricted free agent. Kyle O’Quinn and Enes Kanter could both become free agents as well, as both have player options. Kristaps Porzingis’ status is cloudy as he recovers from ACL surgery he underwent in February. Even if he takes the court next season, the Knicks will undoubtedly be careful with their franchise player.

With Porzingis injured, and Beasley possibly leaving in free agency, the Knicks could have a ton of minutes available at power forward. Faried could fill that void and look to improve his value as he enters free agency in 2019.

Given the logjam that Denver has in its frontcourt, it is probably in the best interest of the team and Faried to part ways. Paul Millsap, Juan Hernangomez, Trey Lyles and Tyler Lydon are all capable of handling power forward, in addition to Darrell Arthur and Wilson Chandler if they remain on the roster.

The Knicks have engaged in trade talks revolved around Faried previously. Prior to New York trading Iman Shumpert and J.R. Smith, to the Cleveland Cavaliers, there were talks of trading Shumpert to the Nuggets for Faried.

While a trade didn’t happen then, now could be the time for the Knicks and Nuggets to come together on a Faried exchange.

For New York, the ability to absorb Faried’s contract prior to the NB Draft is complicated. The easiest way to the team getting cap space is if Kanter and O’Quinn opt out. However, that cannot happen until July 1 when free agency begins.


One trade that could work, monetarily, is Courtney Lee for Faried straight up. That may not be a deal that the Knicks want to make, but acquiring an additional first round pick would be a smart move to make.

The Knicks and Nuggets were involved in a three-team deal at the trade deadline that also involved the Dallas Mavericks. It would make sense for New York to once again engage them in trade negotiations. Bringing in Faried for a year, if it means adding an additional first round pick in the loaded 2018 NBA Draft, would be worthwhile.

Not for nothin, but I would love to see Faried here... We could really use that edge/hustle. Obviously we don't have the type of partial guaranteed contract that would make it work out. We certainly don't have the pieces to get Faried + 14. In all honesty, I would do Lee for Faried w/o the pick attached...

I am not up to date with Faried, but rebounding wise, isn't he a bit of an animal like Kanter is? Or is that a "was a bit of an animal" as he depended on his athleticism. We need to get that 14 pick.,,

IDK but he is a hustle guy no doubt. He also played well in limited minutes last season. If we are gonna let Burke and #9 go for their shots this season, may as well stock up on rebounders... Also his contract is a year less than Lee so we get FA space sooner (Kyrie)

[Knickerbock]

My question is: why does the media even know that the Knicks front office recieved calls about possible pick swap deals...

Knicks being completely unprofessional as usual..

[fatalogic]

My question is: why does the media even know that the Knicks front office recieved calls about possible pick swap deals...

Knicks being completely unprofessional as usual..

Leaks are just part of the business.