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NBA Draft 2018 5.0: Lucky #7 and 22.

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Mikal
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Young
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Carter
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14%
MPJ
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47%
 
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 5.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1801 » by bennjuiced34 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:40 pm

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Post#1802 » by biggestbullsfan » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:51 pm

I find it interesting that teams are more interested in trading down for Porter rather than trying to trade up for Doncic. At least that’s how the rumors are coming out. Both range seems anywhere from 2-5 right now. Wonder why teams aren’t clamoring to move up to get him. Or maybe those rumors aren’t as available
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Post#1803 » by Am2626 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:51 pm

jump wrote:
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biggestbullsfan wrote:Is there any person who likes both Doncic and MPJ? Or who wouldn’t be upset with drafting either? Because right now i don’t see it. Lines are drawn in the sand. Can’t wait until Thur lol


I would be happy with either

It's only the trade Lauri to get doncic crowd that irk me


Agreed. Trading Lauri for anyone is madness. I'm not convinced there's a player in this draft who will be better than he is.


It’s not realistic to trade Lauri and it’s not going to happen. However both Ayton and Doncic have higher upside and potential than Lauri.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 5.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1804 » by dumbell78 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:57 pm

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ESPN’s Ian Begley:
Some members of the Knicks organization came away ‘very impressed’ by Kentucky’s Kevin Knox after his performance in workout with the team last Saturday, per league sources. Knox worked out with a group that included Michigan State’s Miles Bridges. Knox and Bridges competed against one another in the workout, per sources. After the workout, members of the organization club inquired about Knox’s remaining workouts, asking if he had any workouts with teams drafting ahead of New York. That’s standard for the draft process, but perhaps indicates the club’s level of interest in drafting Knox. Knox is currently projected to be drafted at No. 9 by the Knicks in ESPN’s latest mock draft.


If he goes 8th or 9th like I projected when we fell to range.......

Jeez so the Knicks like Knox and Lonnie Walker...The 2 Bridges' might fall to the Clippers


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Post#1805 » by ThisGuyFawkes » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:57 pm

Some people have been low on WCJ, but here's something to consider... What if WCJ is the kind of player that unlocks Lauri? If Lauri develops into a top tier player, then I think drafting a solid complimentary player, like WCJ, might be worth it.
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Post#1806 » by kingkirk » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:59 pm

Leslie Forman wrote:So who's this Jerome Robinson guy and why does he have a green room invite? Has anybody seen him play?


I have no idea how this guy could potentially be a green room invite, but hey, Hutchison is there as well.
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Post#1807 » by Hangtime84 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:03 am

mlitney01 wrote:Some people have been low on WCJ, but here's something to consider... What if WCJ is the kind of player that unlocks Lauri? If Lauri develops into a top tier player, then I think drafting a solid complimentary player, like WCJ, might be worth it.


Seems as strong as Robin Lopez and variety with movements and range. Could he be the combination of both Brook and Robin into one player? :D
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Post#1808 » by Red Larrivee » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:17 am

mlitney01 wrote:Some people have been low on WCJ, but here's something to consider... What if WCJ is the kind of player that unlocks Lauri? If Lauri develops into a top tier player, then I think drafting a solid complimentary player, like WCJ, might be worth it.


He is the type of player that can do that. Two players with no overlap in ability and whose weaknesses offset.

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Post#1809 » by Leslie Forman » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:48 am

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
Leslie Forman wrote:So who's this Jerome Robinson guy and why does he have a green room invite? Has anybody seen him play?



Had never heard of him before this week. The podcast analysts say he's a talented scorer but can't guard a chair. I'm not sure who promised him what but the green room invite came out of nowhere.

He does look skilled. Perhaps he's the Kuzma of this draft.

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Post#1810 » by Ugly Duckling » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:49 am

I wonder who the diamond in the rough is. Who's going to be the Donovan Mitchell of this draft? That's what I wanna know
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Post#1811 » by DuckIII » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:52 am

JohnnyTapwater wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:The person who compared MPJ to Lauri hit it on the head.

There are some differences, but they both generally fill the same role on your team. Terminal scorer who can hit tough shots due to height but not to be relied on as a playmaking engine of the offense.



OMG...

Lauri and MPJ are completely different players... LMFAO..


In the sense that Lauri is more of a "big" and a vastly superior player and prospect then yes. But despite their differences, they are nonetheless a poor fitting pair.
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Post#1812 » by DuckIII » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:57 am

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I think he will have a good rookie year. I’d guess 12-14 points, four rebounds, and four assists per game. He can do a little of everything. He can’t play point guard in the league because he’s not athletic enough, he’s a wing. His pick-and-roll ability, pace, change of speed, high IQ and size will be excellent for the league. Obviously, he was playing against professionals, so this is better competition than summer league and all those things. He’s ready, I just wouldn’t say he’s Dirk, Pau or Marc like they are trying to say. It’s easier for euro bigs to adjust (to the NBA) than guards. It’s just easier overseas because if you’re 6’6-6’8 and you can dribble, shoot, play iso, and play pick-and-roll (like he can) you’re already in the NBA. So there aren’t a lot of teams that can matchup with his size in Europe. I’ve seen what happens to him when he goes against players his height or close-to who are athletic. He struggles mightily. Go check the film in Panathinaikos series. He was struggling to create space, to get the team in the offense comfortably, and to create shots, and get by guys. Granted Panathinaikos is the most athletic team in Euroleague, but that’s kind of athleticism he will see in NBA.




Interesting take by a euro league player(cj mcollums older brother)on doncic. You have people saying trade up for this guy :noway:

you'll learn though


The appeal to authority is CJ McCollum's brother? In unrelated news Jason Williams keeps calling MPJ a "point forward" and thinks his best NBA comp is pre-injuy Shaun Livingston.
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Post#1813 » by DuckIII » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:59 am

Ugly Duckling wrote:I wonder who the diamond in the rough is. Who's going to be the Donovan Mitchell of this draft? That's what I wanna know


More often than not drafts don't have Donovan Mitchells. But based on hype with very little "scouting" performed by me, Kevin Knox, Mitchell Robinson, Lonnie Walker or Zhaire Smith?
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Post#1814 » by NecessaryEvil » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:00 am

Am2626 wrote:
jump wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:
I would be happy with either

It's only the trade Lauri to get doncic crowd that irk me


Agreed. Trading Lauri for anyone is madness. I'm not convinced there's a player in this draft who will be better than he is.


It’s not realistic to trade Lauri and it’s not going to happen. However both Ayton and Doncic have higher upside and potential than Lauri.


Maybe, but all I know is Lauri has been compared to Dirk and Kristaps soon as he hit the ground running in the NBA. Thing is, he was a better rookie than both. This guy has top ten player potential written all over him.

I hope he is a Bull for life. So humble, so easy to like but when he develops a killer instinct mentality? He is going to wreck havoc on the NBA. I still remember this guy practicing his handles via half time during Bulls games at the UC. If he somehow achieves his goals as a on the ball play maker? I don't think the league has an answer for that besides Kevin Durant.

Quite frankly, we're lucky as HELL to have gotten this guy.
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Post#1815 » by DuckIII » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:02 am

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mlitney01 wrote:Some people have been low on WCJ, but here's something to consider... What if WCJ is the kind of player that unlocks Lauri? If Lauri develops into a top tier player, then I think drafting a solid complimentary player, like WCJ, might be worth it.


He is the type of player that can do that. Two players with no overlap in ability and whose weaknesses offset.

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Agreed. I don't want to draft for fit, but clearly the two best fits at 7 will be WCJ and Mikal Bridges.

Note: I also think either one could be BPA at 7. To me they are solidly in the range there, and neither would be a reach.
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Post#1816 » by blicka » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:02 am

DuckIII wrote:
blicka wrote:
I think he will have a good rookie year. I’d guess 12-14 points, four rebounds, and four assists per game. He can do a little of everything. He can’t play point guard in the league because he’s not athletic enough, he’s a wing. His pick-and-roll ability, pace, change of speed, high IQ and size will be excellent for the league. Obviously, he was playing against professionals, so this is better competition than summer league and all those things. He’s ready, I just wouldn’t say he’s Dirk, Pau or Marc like they are trying to say. It’s easier for euro bigs to adjust (to the NBA) than guards. It’s just easier overseas because if you’re 6’6-6’8 and you can dribble, shoot, play iso, and play pick-and-roll (like he can) you’re already in the NBA. So there aren’t a lot of teams that can matchup with his size in Europe. I’ve seen what happens to him when he goes against players his height or close-to who are athletic. He struggles mightily. Go check the film in Panathinaikos series. He was struggling to create space, to get the team in the offense comfortably, and to create shots, and get by guys. Granted Panathinaikos is the most athletic team in Euroleague, but that’s kind of athleticism he will see in NBA.




Interesting take by a euro league player(cj mcollums older brother)on doncic. You have people saying trade up for this guy :noway:

you'll learn though


The appeal to authority is CJ McCollum's brother? In unrelated news Jason Williams keeps calling MPJ a "point forward" and thinks his best NBA comp is pre-injuy Shaun Livingston.


An actual euroleague player who has faced doncic and plays pro ball>>>>>>>>>>>Washed up non pro scouts who been posting on forums for 10-18 years

He doesn't have to be the authority.His opinion holds more weight than ANYBODY on this site.
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Post#1817 » by DuckIII » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:05 am

VolumePoster wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Netsdaily tweeted that it's rumored the Nets promised Hutchinson they'd pick him in the first, not the Bulls.


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If that were the case and I were Hutchinson I'd redouble my workouts. Triple them. Anything to avoid Brooklyn.


NY market and a clear path to major playing time for a "veteran" rookie? That's an ideal landing spot for a guy like him. His agent would hard-selling the **** out of this.
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Post#1818 » by DuckIII » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:11 am

blicka wrote:
DuckIII wrote:
blicka wrote:
Interesting take by a euro league player(cj mcollums older brother)on doncic. You have people saying trade up for this guy :noway:

you'll learn though


The appeal to authority is CJ McCollum's brother? In unrelated news Jason Williams keeps calling MPJ a "point forward" and thinks his best NBA comp is pre-injuy Shaun Livingston.


An actual euroleague player who has faced doncic and plays pro ball>>>>>>>>>>>Washed up non pro scouts who been posting on forums for 10-18 years

He doesn't have to be the authority.His opinion holds more weight than ANYBODY on this site.


For someone who **** all over posters' opinions merely because they are posters and not pro players or pro scouts, you spend a lot of time in here. I don't get it. We don't typically just bash each other's views based on the theory that we aren't professional basketball people. I mean you do. But the rest of us don't typically resort to that argument every day.
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Post#1819 » by GimmeDat » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:11 am

Robinson's a decent scorer but one of the worst defenders in the draft.

Seeing guys like Holiday, Robinson, Divincenzo and Hutchison in the green room just makes me more excited for who could be at 22.
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Post#1820 » by Red Larrivee » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:11 am

DuckIII wrote:The appeal to authority is CJ McCollum's brother? In unrelated news Jason Williams keeps calling MPJ a "point forward" and thinks his best NBA comp is pre-injuy Shaun Livingston.


The funny part is he literally ignores half of the paragraph ("He's going to have a good rookie year...") and props up the part he wanted to hear.

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