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Would you want a superteam? 

Post#1 » by MixedUp » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:30 pm

Might sound like a crazy question, who wouldnt? But I was discussing this with some friends.

Some are LeBron fans, they all obviously say yes.

But me and another Laker fan rather keep the core together, for as much as possible and sign George and some role players and grow further internally.

Really curious what you guys think?



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Re: Would you want a superteam? 

Post#2 » by Landsberger » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:38 pm

It depends on what the particular fan wants to see. Quick contention or the possibility of contention in the future.

For me, I've been a fan since 1974 of the Lakers so I don't get too attached to individual players or the thought of "growing" to being a contender is somehow better than acquiring the players necessary to be a top team. We traded for Wilt who put us over the top, we traded for Kareem, Wilkes, the picks that got us Magic and Worthy. We traded for Scott as well. We traded for the pick that became Kobe and signed Shaq. The Lakers have 3 periods of dominance and all of them were centered on getting the best players in the game via trade or FA in some form.

I like our guys and I see potential there but I don't see any of them as a centerpiece on a top 5 team now or in the future. So, for me, I don't see it as a "choice" so much as a necessity to take the Lakers back to being in the conversation.

It all is mute if you have been listening over the last 18 months since Magic took the reigns...... they want to be relevant and soon. They made moves to free money and get assets to make the jump suddenly. I think we will see a much different team next year unless they strike out.
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Re: Would you want a superteam? 

Post#3 » by Kobe System » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:39 pm

Would you like to contend for the championship?
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Re: Would you want a superteam? 

Post#4 » by Kilroy » Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:55 pm

Honestly, what I want is the next Lakers Dynasty. Not really interested in mortgaging our future for a short term 2 or 3 title run...

So if the only way we could have a superteam is in a burn fast and bright sense, then I'm not really that excited about it. I would rather be a WCF contender for the next 10yrs than be a Championship Contender for the next 3...

I'd rather pass on LeBron and George this season, if it meant we'd get AD next, for example...
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Re: Would you want a superteam? 

Post#5 » by Free Rider » Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:02 pm

Kilroy wrote:Honestly, what I want is the next Lakers Dynasty. Not really interested in mortgaging our future for a short term 2 or 3 title run...

So if the only way we could have a superteam is in a burn fast and bright sense, then I'm not really that excited about it. I would rather be a WCF contender for the next 10yrs than be a Championship Contender for the next 3...

I'd rather pass on LeBron and George this season, if it meant we'd get AD next, for example...


I actually understand the desire to want to keep the young core intact and see whether we can develop our homegrown talent into a championship team. This group of guys has grown on me and part of me just wants to ride it out and see whether we can build something on own.

The other part of me, however, knows far too well that the opportunity to get guys like Kawhi are few and far between. And quite frankly I don’t think anyone it our current core will ever be as good as Kawhi is, assuming he returns to his pre-injury form.

It kinda sucks because the right move is to trade for Kawhi but I was hoping this group could become part of Lakers championship history.
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Post#6 » by MixedUp » Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:10 pm

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Kilroy wrote:Honestly, what I want is the next Lakers Dynasty. Not really interested in mortgaging our future for a short term 2 or 3 title run...

So if the only way we could have a superteam is in a burn fast and bright sense, then I'm not really that excited about it. I would rather be a WCF contender for the next 10yrs than be a Championship Contender for the next 3...

I'd rather pass on LeBron and George this season, if it meant we'd get AD next, for example...


I actually understand the desire to want to keep the young core intact and see whether we can develop our homegrown talent into a championship team. This group of guys has grown on me and part of me just wants to ride it out and see whether we can build something on own.

The other part of me, however, knows far too well that the opportunity to get guys like Kawhi are few and far between. And quite frankly I don’t think anyone it our current core will ever be as good as Kawhi is, assuming he returns to his pre-injury form.

It kinda sucks because the right move is to trade for Kawhi but I was hoping this group could become part of Lakers championship history.
I would love Kawhi, but why not wait until next season?



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Re: Would you want a superteam? 

Post#7 » by Kilroy » Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:12 pm

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Kilroy wrote:Honestly, what I want is the next Lakers Dynasty. Not really interested in mortgaging our future for a short term 2 or 3 title run...

So if the only way we could have a superteam is in a burn fast and bright sense, then I'm not really that excited about it. I would rather be a WCF contender for the next 10yrs than be a Championship Contender for the next 3...

I'd rather pass on LeBron and George this season, if it meant we'd get AD next, for example...


I actually understand the desire to want to keep the young core intact and see whether we can develop our homegrown talent into a championship team. This group of guys has grown on me and part of me just wants to ride it out and see whether we can build something on own.

The other part of me, however, knows far too well that the opportunity to get guys like Kawhi are few and far between. And quite frankly I don’t think anyone it our current core will ever be as good as Kawhi is, assuming he returns to his pre-injury form.

It kinda sucks because the right move is to trade for Kawhi but I was hoping this group could become part of Lakers championship history.


If we we trade for Kawhi, and think IF we get PG and LeBron, we should definitely get him... Why not, the window is now if that happens... That said,
Kawhi by himself, isn't interesting enough for me to break up the core... I think Ingram is probably no more than 2 season away from surpassing him.

My point above is more about LeBron... Getting LeBron means you essentially have to break up the 'young core' because he's at the tail end of his prime. Even if he would be patient and be cool waiting for the kids to come into their own, you, as a smart GM, would be foolish to do that...

So the question IMO is really, how badly do we want LeBron?
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Re: Would you want a superteam? 

Post#8 » by Karmaloop » Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:44 pm

I can't believe this is even a question...
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Re: Would you want a superteam? 

Post#9 » by Free Rider » Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:50 pm

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Kilroy wrote:Honestly, what I want is the next Lakers Dynasty. Not really interested in mortgaging our future for a short term 2 or 3 title run...

So if the only way we could have a superteam is in a burn fast and bright sense, then I'm not really that excited about it. I would rather be a WCF contender for the next 10yrs than be a Championship Contender for the next 3...

I'd rather pass on LeBron and George this season, if it meant we'd get AD next, for example...


I actually understand the desire to want to keep the young core intact and see whether we can develop our homegrown talent into a championship team. This group of guys has grown on me and part of me just wants to ride it out and see whether we can build something on own.

The other part of me, however, knows far too well that the opportunity to get guys like Kawhi are few and far between. And quite frankly I don’t think anyone it our current core will ever be as good as Kawhi is, assuming he returns to his pre-injury form.

It kinda sucks because the right move is to trade for Kawhi but I was hoping this group could become part of Lakers championship history.


I Kawhi, and think IF we get PG and LeBron, we should definitely get him... Why not, the window is now if that happens... That said,
Kawhi by himself, isn't interesting enough for me to break up the core... I think Ingram is probably no more than 2 season away from surpassing him.

My point above is more about LeBron... Getting LeBron means you essentially have to break up the 'young core' because he's at the tail end of his prime. Even if he would be patient and be cool waiting for the kids to come into their own, you, as a smart GM, would be foolish to do that...

So the question IMO is really, how badly do we want LeBron?


Honestly until this weekend I thought the idea of us getting LeBron was really more of a pipe dream. I figured our best option would be to keep our core intact, add PG, and then focus on 2019 for future depth. I never saw us in a position to win now even if we somehow landed both LeBron and PG. Having Kawhi on board would complete change that dynamic because it allow us to realistically compete for a title over the next few years and not just hope that our guys improve enough to get us there. You’re a bit higher on Ingram than I am it sounds like you’re more willing to wait. I just don’t think you can take these opportunities for granted. A healthy Kawhi and LeBron give us two of the top 5 players in the league. We haven’t had that since the Shaq and Kobe era.
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Re: Would you want a superteam? 

Post#10 » by ISayshowmee » Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:53 pm

hahaha...maybe....of course I want the Lakers to be a superteam to topple that Warriors' superteam senseless !!!
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Re: Would you want a superteam? 

Post#11 » by Landsberger » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:21 pm

Kilroy wrote:Honestly, what I want is the next Lakers Dynasty. Not really interested in mortgaging our future for a short term 2 or 3 title run...


Not sure this is possible in the league anymore. We were fortunate in the Kobe era to have one of the top 5 players of all time. The 80's run was in a different era money wise. Also in that era if you wanted to be recognized nationally you had to be on one of about 4 teams.

Now it's about "buddies" and super teams. By the time the young guys get to a level where they can be leaders on great teams they are rarely cheap enough to move around without wholesale team changes like the one we're supposedly contemplating.

That said, I'm not sure this group is separated from being a contender by just time and by the time we know it so will everyone else and they will be on much larger contracts.

On one hand it's great to have some nice young pieces that we could trade in for a potential 3 year run. On the other it would suck to only get one real shot in 3 years (ala the late 2000's Celtics) and then go through this all over again.
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Re: Would you want a superteam? 

Post#12 » by SlimShady83 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:26 pm

NO superteams I'm sick of them 1-2 star players should only be allowed per team - If others become star players sure ok NP, but If you have 2 star players already, then you shouldn't be able to get others - they need to make some rule so teams can't keep forming lame superteams
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Re: Would you want a superteam? 

Post#13 » by Mauro Pedrosa » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:40 pm

Signing / trading for big stars is what you guys do and a lot of other teams' fans resent you for it. I'm not one of those people and I'd love to see Kawhi / George & LeBron playing together to try and stop the Warriors
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Re: Would you want a superteam? 

Post#14 » by Dr Aki » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:11 am

i'm ok with not getting lebron, as long as we're still able to get paul george

because then the equation is simple, find an expiring contract for deng's 2 years with our 2019 pick, and organise the #25 pick and randle's extension to maintain 32.4 mil in cap space in 2019
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Re: Would you want a superteam? 

Post#15 » by Spens1 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:35 am

I'd rather have the best of both worlds and be competitive long term.

I'm fine with getting just Paul George and then waiting for Leonard next year and maxing him and then if AD is unhappy, moving an expiring Deng with Ingram for him.

A core of George, Leonard and Monobrow is a lot sexier long term after all.
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Re: Would you want a superteam? 

Post#16 » by dAdo dA dEvil » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:20 am

Right now I just want PG. Kawhi if possible. Keep Ingram. Everyone else on the roster can be traded for Kawhi.
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Re: Would you want a superteam? 

Post#17 » by loveshaq786 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:53 am

LeBron will benefit our core way more than PG.
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Re: Would you want a superteam? 

Post#18 » by larry14r » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:45 am

dAdo dA dEvil wrote:Right now I just want PG. Kawhi if possible. Keep Ingram. Everyone else on the roster can be traded for Kawhi.


Yeah Ingram is going to go if Kawhi comes and there's nothing we can do about it.
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Post#19 » by larry14r » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:46 am

loveshaq786 wrote:LeBron will benefit our core way more than PG.


In what crying to the refs about everything.
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Re: Would you want a superteam? 

Post#20 » by biscuittoman » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:47 am

Is Celtics a super team?

If the answer to that is no, then we don't need a super team to contend, do we?

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